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thundered
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posted February 14, 2013 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thundered     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, you name it, I've been called it.

I should start by saying I don't think I'm ugly, but I'm no Angelina Jolie; I think I'm pretty okay in the looks department (my self-esteem is a bit.. well lets just say I go to see someone about that).

I've always been told I'm a 'looker'. People used to come up to my mum and say how gorgeous a baby or kid I was. The first six months of a new high school, I was asked out at least 3 times a week (I never went out with anyone though) and even though I'm now older and more of a recluse, I still am told how 'cute' or 'hot' I look (aaand of course, I don't believe any of it)

With all the nice stuff, however, I've been called the bad things; **** , ***** etc (even the lovely 'c' word!). I've had girls come up to me after I've chatted to their boyfriend (who happens to be my friend) to tell me I shouldn't talk to their boyfriend again, I've had girls being intimidated by me (I should add I'm really damn short!), I've had good friends become jealous and after a boyfriend has broken up with me (and they've become friends with him to get close to him). You name it, it's probably been said or done to me.

However, the main question I am asking is this; in my lovely little chart down there that I've had an astrology friend of a friend look over my chart and, yes, she called me a maneater from my Pluto, Eros and Lilith aspects!
Now I've only been in three relationships, feel insanely nervous when asked out, and have turned people down because I actually think I'm mentally not ready for a relationship. Now the only reason I've lingered on her words is.. well.. I love a good challenge. My first boyfriend was everything opposite me, but since he was good looking and a nice flirt, I .. 'hunted' him down, so to speak.

The next guy was someone I really liked for a few years, so I narrowed my eyes and went after him.

The last? He said I seduced him, but I don't remember any of the said 'seducing'!

And bedroom antics? Lets say I'm more bark than bite; I might like a good challenge, but sex itself I'm not interested in really, you could chalk it up to some bad experiences and just not enjoying the whole thing overall.

So after this LONG @SS post and the time nearly going on midnight, I hand it over to you lovely people.

Am I the Succubus?

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sharpei
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posted February 14, 2013 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think most women who are even half cute bring out the ***** in women- women are bitches- i just accept it and try to look hotter and be better than them- i mean im nice to other women and smile and play the game but i dont care if they like me and im not surprised when they gang up on me.

dunno about your chart but just be happy and stay true to yourself and let the haters hate yo!

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ueharaa
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posted February 14, 2013 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have taken a quick look at your chart and I don't think it's because of eros or lilith.

Should it come from anything in you chart it would be your t-square: mars conjunct moon both opposite pluto; venus square pluto and venus square moon/mars
Besides your venus is in the 5th and your mars in the 8th so this adds intensity to the configuration.

edited to add: I'm not sure about this bu since you have a square of venus and moon aspected by pluto, it certainly shows difficult relationships with other women.
I think I remember there was a thread once where the op had a theory that moon-pluto women tended to attract negative opinions from other women.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted February 14, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny you should say you're no AJ; She has Mars conj Moon (in Aries though) oppo Pluto.

Your big 3 is also attractive.


/shrugs

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ueharaa
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posted February 14, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sharpei:
i think most women who are even half cute bring out the ***** in women- women are bitches- i just accept it and try to look hotter and be better than them- i mean im nice to other women and smile and play the game but i dont care if they like me and im not surprised when they gang up on me.

dunno about your chart but just be happy and stay true to yourself and let the haters hate yo!


wow, what a way to make a general statement about women! Not all women feel the need to compete with other women in the looks department.Those who do are generally those who feel really insecure.

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sharpei
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posted February 14, 2013 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i dont mean all women sure but enough to be statistically significant

i dunno i mean i have a friend who is a super hot model and she does not bring out the ***** in other women and i am just girl next door cute and i do so it *could* be something i give off - i am super independant and dont feel the need to be friends with everyone i meet which i think intimidates or scares women because women like cliques and you are either in or out so it could be that... now ive learnt to deal with it much better but yah in the past it caused me hell.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted February 14, 2013 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asc ruler in Pisces,Pisces looks sweet on girls,sextiling Moon & its dispositor Neptune. Pisces babies are 100% adorable.

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ueharaa
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posted February 14, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes this could be a reason.
From what I've noticed, women tend to hate/diss/call "names" two types of women. One is the woman that gets a lot of male attention and women don't see what her "it" actor is. To them she's average but somehow all the guys are at her feet so they don't like her. The other type is the girl who feels superior to others because she's pretty and she knows it. Usually in the latter case, she's not liked by other girls who consider themselves hot and flaunt it.


Argh I hate how shallow some women can be about this whole look thing. I find it utterly stupid.

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posted February 14, 2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you have venus in the 5th, which is drawn to romance, and your moon/mars are tightly conjunct in the 'passion' house of the 8th, so romance/relationships would come more easily to you i would assume. your sun/mercury in pisces and moon/mars in taurus are very feminine placements, so men are likely drawn to your feminine nature and women might be put off by something 'helpless' they may sense in you. perhaps you play a victim role to get attention, even if you think you aren't doing that? pisces women have a tendency to seem helpless and others, mainly men, really dig that. but women don't. maybe that vibe is being recognized by other females. your venus is sqaure to the moon and the venus is also square to mars, so that would indicate some degree of difficulty with getting relationships going (male or female), because your feelings are not in complete harmony. jupiter is also bringer of luck, and since it's running square/semi-square to many planets and opposite your asc. you might not make a good first impression

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posted February 14, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Personal Readings.

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Odette
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posted February 14, 2013 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend is a Pisces with Taurus Moon and Pisces Merc. I have Pisces Merc myself and Taurus Venus..
imo - Pisces Merc can't say "no" easily. We want to be nice to people. This is even more so the case when the person has both Sun & Merc in Pisces.
Maybe these women pick up on how easy going you are and how easily you can drift in and out of something. Pisces has no boundaries. I am not saying they are consciously aware of this.. but on some level they could *sense* this in your personality.

I think it's really attractive from a mans perspective when a girl is not just extra nice and caring, as Pisces can be - but also able to be in tune with him and go with his flow... which Pisces does so easily.

But because of this it's also really easy for Pisces girls to get sucked into complicated emotionally-insane love triangle situations. In my experience they are much less likely than others to say "no" to love - for the sake of morality or social norms.

My friend was actually the other woman once.. The guy was also a Pisces and maried. She never thought she did something wrong. She thought his wife was a cold person and that it was ok for them to be together.

Pisces people with a Pisces Merc - don't like rules. They are often not even aware of the rules.

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sharpei
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posted February 14, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you should not feel bad about your basic nature thundered

pisces are sensitive and pick up things with an antennae most women are lacking and the yare also psychic sponges who absorb the energy around them and - it is also linked to the 12th house which is karma and suffering. that does not mean you will have to suffer! it just means you can cause an irrational feeling in someone without them knowing why...

play up your strengths instead

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KarkaQueen
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posted February 14, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well first of all you got an ego thats more bigger than Jupiter

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posted February 14, 2013 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have a picture? Just curious.

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posted February 14, 2013 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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thundered
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posted February 15, 2013 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thundered     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, thanks so much guys for replying! I wrote that so late last night so I'm glad it made sense!

sharpei: I definitely don't have any time for anyone making me feel like the bad guy, I kind of have fiery pride that I like to show and never want it to falter

ueharaa: What you said about Moon and Pluto aspect really seems about right. Definitely the negative opinions I've received were from women!

VenusDiSirius: Ah! She's actually one of my favourite actresses

starmoon: To be honest, there probably is some truth to that. My male friends always feel that they must look after me (girls crushing on them have hated it, oops!) and in a way, I'd like to let my guard down where I WANT to be looked after, so I'm sure that comes off very damsel-in-distress like. I do remember cutting my hand open in front of a male friend who kind of 'cooed' at me while I whined like a baby- much to the chagrin of the girlfriend (I got 'attention-seeking ***** ' for that).
But on the same time I'm very guarded and like be appear mentally, physically and emotionally stronger than I am... I call it being stubborn
You hit it bang-on the head with the difficulty with getting relationships going; in one way I'm socially awkward and don't like to be approached and am bad at starting conversations.

I'm kind of like a speeding car with no steering wheel control :O

Odette: Woohoo! I definitely find it hard to say 'no' and I really DO want to be nice to people!

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posted February 15, 2013 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thundered     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Well first of all you got an ego thats more bigger than Jupiter

I think my confusion about other people's opinions about me is bigger than Jupiter. No ego trip though

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posted February 15, 2013 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thundered     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Do you have a picture? Just curious.

Of me? Oh geez :\ uh.. I think I have one on my blog, let me get back to you.

Edit: Found one. I'll only have it up for the night and delete it tomorrow- I don't like having my picture up everywhere

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posted February 15, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
U're very pretty but not in an intimidating way. I see the Pisces softness quite clearly. Stop caring what them haters say. Really. You're a beautiful girl, if they can't handle it, fukem.

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posted February 15, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think anyone mentioned the Venus-Juno conjunction. Apparently all the sex symbols in Hollywood have it. The projected bitchiness could be Lilith in 10th, it is most visible part of the chart, esp in GT with Sun-Pluto. I have Lilith in 1st in aspect to Mars-Pluto and Sat and have had similar complaints, but with time I BECAME a man huntress. You shouldn't forego your nature. If you have it, flaunt it, as someone said. hehe (and no, I have nothing in Leo )

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posted February 15, 2013 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting thread. Everyone already picked up on things that I probably wouldn't have. You're pretty, you remind me of Kate upton. I have no idea what her chart is like except knowing she is a Gemini Sun. Anyways, I agree that you should just do you.. Moon square Venus in either gender seems to play out in strange dynamics with either the opposite sex to the same sex. It's odd because men with Moon square Venus complain they don't get along with women or get them.
Finally, that T-square with Pluto-Moon/Mars-Venus/Juno is extremely potent.
Out of curiosity though, how do *you* feel about women (in general)? You seem like a nice girl, sometimes when a women has negative attitudes towards other women in general, then of course other women pick up on that energy and dislike her. it's a no brainer. you don't seem that way, but I am just inquiring your feelings.

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posted February 15, 2013 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow you are very pretty!

i think its less looks and more the energy you give off- somehow yah i can see you would bring out the ***** in girls whereas other girls are pretty but just meh in terms of how they carry themselves which will just mean the yare the girls where other girls go to her ''but you are so pretty! how do you not havea boyfriend!''

interesting thread at any rate.

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posted February 15, 2013 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brightwhites     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're probably very good looking if you get compliments like that all the time. However I think the seducing has to do with the synastry between two people. Probably some 8th house/5th house stuff going on.

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posted February 15, 2013 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahahahahahaha!!!

You made my day. I've been called a succubus before and someone said that men are drawn to me, that it's my aura. One guy said that I had the aura of a suductress. Oddly enough I have the similar self-esteem issues as you do. I wouldn't even consider myself pretty but often find myself in love triangles. But you've definitely been asked out more than I have. I think the mean looks I give to people make them back off lol

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posted February 16, 2013 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jinni     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I couldn`t believe my eyes when I opened this thread. We are almost astrological twins. The only difference in our charts is that I´m sag rising I´m English second language speaker but I´m trying to reply anyway

I have been fancied by men quite lot but not asked out by them like several times per week. But taking into account that I am a lesbian and not closeted I have had a lot of male admirers some of them have been pretty obsessed which is not cool. I´m super feminine both look and personalitywise so I guess that is the reason why I get attention from men but not from women unless they are a way older than I am. And I have to admit that I can be pretty helpless at time particularly what comes to every day issues like fixing things, cooking etc.

But I don`t have problems getting along with women. It`s bit difficult for me to build a friendship with a girl because it`s more natural to me to communicate with men but girls do not act unfriendly towards me they just don`t seem to be particularly interested striking up a friendship either. They seem to want to remain just aquintances which sucks because my male friends always end up wanting more than friendship and that also sucks. I have always thought that that is moon square venus thing.

I have notice that my verbal expression is often misunderstood. Mercury rx in Pisces is not the greatest place for Mercury I guess and mine is a top of it squaring asc. So if it`s similar for you maybe you are coming across rude even though you thought you were polite. Smiling goes a long way.

I can relate totally with wondering if I am mentally stable enough for a relationship and just like you I am also extremely picky selecting partners. But unlike you I don`t unfortunately have a lot of selection where to choose. Women just don`t fancy me and I don`t like men that way + being extremely picky probably means that I´m forever alone. at least you are lucky to have a guy you want

It was extremely interesting to read your experiences, I haven`t ever met someone who has so similar chart with mine. Keep your head up girl, you are very pretty and no doubt nice (hey, my astro twin cannot be anything but nice!)

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