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Trined&Squared
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posted February 23, 2013 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So my ex from 15 years ago found me online and contacted me and we had been having friendly convos over email. I am married but having problems and I think I made that clear, but apparently he thought I was leading him on. He ended our correspondence with a very very angry email To the point I was just scared. He accused me of ruining his life all these years. I don't know what to thing the whole thing is just so scary and sometimes I am afraid he will do something crazy. Thankfully he lives far away. I just don't understand this affect I've had on him for this many years, Ya I broke his heart, but I was young and stupid. I just needed to talk to someone about this. I can post charts if you'd like.

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posted February 23, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

15 yrs?

Wow, this tells me it is nothing you have done, sounds like he just has emotional issues.

Scorpio or Taurus?

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Trined&Squared
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posted February 23, 2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you're right. No he's an Aries.

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posted February 23, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Trined&Squared:
I hope you're right. No he's an Aries.

This may be prying, but, are you able to post both of your charts? Maybe a synastry of the two of you to see why he's so angry and any other issues?

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Trined&Squared
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posted February 23, 2013 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HIM: http://postimage.org/image/4zxtgmnf9/

ME: http://postimage.org/image/959k6c0af/

Synastry: http://postimage.org/image/mbv3f81y1/

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Haplesschild*
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posted February 23, 2013 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your birthtime 12:00 or is that just an estimate?

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Trined&Squared
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posted February 23, 2013 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is 5:38 am his noon estimate

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posted February 23, 2013 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha it's no wonder, I was guessing plutonian energy or Taurus and I was right! Even with your estimated time, the moon will definitely be in Taurus, and seeing that he has pluto exact opposing his sun, he'll be very plutonian and will act like a scorpio in many ways.

What did you do to him, if you don't mind me asking?

I think people with a combo of Taurus, Aries and plutonian energy in their charts have a hard time getting over hurt and moving passed past bad experiences. And seeing that he has a minor moon neptune aspect and also has sun loosely square saturn, that will make him more sensitive and innately cynical and distrusting. So I guess you really damaged him pretty badly as saturnian people don't trust easily, so when they get hurt, it leaves a deep impression.
He has a tsquare with saturn, pluto and sun, so I feel that this guy is quite stubborn and isn't one to let go of things easily. That's why it has taken him so long to process and deal with what you did to him?

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posted February 23, 2013 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very plutonian as well. I understand. But 15 years?

We were in love and I moved to be with him and it didn't work out because we just wanted different things. I was clingy and wanted to live together and play house and he wanted me to get my own place in some strange town. He was away at school and the alternative would have meant many years in a long distance relationship. Shortly after I got home I met my soul mate, so I felt, and we married and had a kid a couple years later. I never did come clean to him about anything back then, I just disappeared. I actually cried many a night back then for knowing I hurt him. But it was really my destiny calling with this other guy. I know he's thinking it could have been us married with a kid and now it didn't work out again. I never got a chance to say I was sorry before this guy flipped out.

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posted February 23, 2013 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No you're not really plutonian, based on your chart? And seeing you have moon conjunct uranus and mars opposition uranus, you are quite inconsistent and quite impulsive right?

So you disappeared and cut him off and hooked up with someone else? Or did you cheat on him then disappeared?

Yeah, I can see how somebody with his placements would take that badly. Going MIA in a serious relationship means no closure, and seeing his aspects, he's most likely alittle insecure inside and scared of hurt.


So yeah. =(

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Trined&Squared
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posted February 23, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just disappeared. I am sorry bout what I did but I still can't imagine him feeling this way after so many years.

I do feel plutonian. Maybe its my mars opposite pluto or square my ascendant. I hold big time grudges and I have a bad temper.

I am also very uranian and too but very controlled also. I have so many contradicting things in my chart. Very difficult and why I probably made many of the mistakes I did.

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posted February 23, 2013 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Trined&Squared:
I just disappeared. I am sorry bout what I did but I still can't imagine him feeling this way after so many years.

I do feel plutonian. Maybe its my mars opposite pluto or square my ascendant. I hold big time grudges and I have a bad temper.

I am also very uranian and too but very controlled also. I have so many contradicting things in my chart. Very difficult and why I probably made many of the mistakes I did.


I sometimes believe women like that sort of attention. To have a man wrapped around their finngers or hurt.

It seems you must have led him on this last time. He felt duped twice. It is no wonder he is ****** at you. I think anyone would be.

I watched a show on dr.phil were the girl was married to one guy she met in the army. Then when he came back dealing with post traumatic stress disorder...instead of being there for him and understanding, she disliked the lack of attention. So she in her words, *left and sent him the divorce papers to get his attention.* He was calling her bluff and signed them.

So with all that baggage, she married another man almost immediately. I think this was more to flaunt that she was a big shot and was so totally over him.

Then while married with this new guy, she talks to her ex husband, flirts, goes out on dates, meets up,....and she has the nerve to get mad at her current boyfriend for not being loving to her.

What an immature and manipulative girl?!
She has the nerve to as that her current husband be ok and nice to her, while she is prancing around and talking to her ex husband?

She told dr phil that she could not believe that her current husband is so different and not who he was initially. She is surprised that he isnt loving and caring and mad at her. lol What a selfish brat.

The episode is torn between two husbands. Watch it.

I feel that you were hurt by him because you went out to live with him, and he wanted to finish school before fully committing, so then you...thought you would try and hurt him somehow. Trust me I know the feeling. I wanted my ex to feel the pain he caused me too.

The reason I suspect you wanted to hurt him or out do him is because there is no way he didnt contact you after you left him and disappeared. He would have wanted to make sure you were at least ok or where you went.

I feel that you stonewalled him half expecting him to come back to you on his knees. When you didnt get that you....*moved on*. And I feel intuitively that you are not happen in your life right now so when he did find you,(Or did you find him? Or friend a common friend on fb?) you felt a rush of what you felt before. And you talked to him and led him on to thinking there would be more.

Eventually, he realized you duped him again. Yes, he has all the right to be ****** off. You have no right to manipulate or play with anyone^s emotions like that.

And in love never play games. If you wanted him you should have let him know then. You may have been immature then but you had a chance to rectify things later. Did you? No.
What did you do this time? Again same stuff.

The main question is .....if you were in his position and being vulnerable and yes probably stupid for pouring your heart out after 15 years to another person only to have history repeat, wouldnt you be fuming?

I know I would.


I think the main concern isnt that he is mad. It makes 100% sense that he **** *d. It is more that you dont feel he should be. Also what about your husband? Was he just a pawn too? Kinda messed up to play games with so many. Life and love is never about you.....it was never about take take and more take. Learn to give.

Yeah, I shoot straight. People dont like being called out. Oh well.

Maybe this post might help spark some reflection in you.

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posted February 23, 2013 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yeah I kinda have to agree. Your opening post said you hurt him but you were 'young and stupid' so instead of owning up to it you blame it on age? Though I personally think this has nothing to do with age really.

You disappeared on him when he loved you, married somebody else and now when your marriage is having issues, you're back talking to him (kinda ... actually. Does your husbund know you're chatting with your ex?)

You were emailing him, yet never apologised, but say you never had the chance to before he lost it. You had 15 years to apologise, I don't get it?

If you were hard to trust and finally loved someone only to have them hurt you badly, then come back and do it again, you'd be feeling the same way. Yes 15 years is long, but some people find it hard to put bad things behind them. They hold on to it.

Even in your post after, you said how you cried at night because you knew you hurt him, yet it seemed like it's more pity at yourself than remorse at what you did to this other person.

I'm not condemning you, but I'm just saying I think you should think of other people's feelings as well. Him AND your husbund's.

Good luck.

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posted February 23, 2013 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries is all about winning and losing, and doesn't do losing very well. Aries is also a notorious bad breaker-upper. Aries will almost always be hostile to the ex who calls it quits, no matter how impossible their behavior was in the relationship.

Fifteen years ago when you dumped Aries you robbed him of the opportunity to retaliate and engage in all manner of rotten childish behavior. Now that Aries has caught up with you, surely you didn't expect him to let a 2nd chance to score pass by. Did you?

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posted February 24, 2013 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@dreaming and hapless....

so agree with you.
she is not satisfied with the marriage for sure...
led her ex on again...feeling all of that rush of the past.

and now, she is thinking, 'did i do that?'

i am having a hard time believing that 'the ex returned all angry'...out of nothing.
my intuition tells me that she conversed with him to see how he would react, in other words, not direct conversation...and....
she backed off later on, and pretended that she 'had done nothing wrong'
and of course, he felt manipulated, again.

honestly, im far more curious about her placements, aspects that would allow for this type of behavior.
at least, the guy, as angry as he may have been, seems to have been far more direct and honest, imo.

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posted February 24, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not making light of what I did. I abbreviated things and I am probably not coming across as sincere as I am because we are online. My values weren't 100% normal back then. I really didn't understand what impact my actions had. I was abused as a child and I was just used to pain and people I loved abandoning or betraying me. I am not making excuses for it, but I can say in all honesty I did it because I was messed up and clueless. I was codependent back then. thats why I was trying to latch on to a relationship so bad.

I am very regretful that it hurt him this bad for this many years and I did tell him that. I did not lead him on at ALL I was talking like a friend. He found me not the other way around and I just thought by being nice I could give him some peace with the situation. But he became angry when I told him I was not interested in a romantic relationship. I don't find this flattering and I am not playing games with either of them.

He has every right to express his anger, I guess I just didn't expect to feel so threatened by it. If I ruined someone's life, well yes I deserve what he gave me, but I still think he sounds unstable. I met the love of my life. I don't know what to say. I never manipulated either one of them. I just fell madly in love and knew he was the one. I was acting on pure instinct never meaning to hurt anyone. We all make mistakes. This was a big one but I know in my heart when I see my son that theres a reason I met his dad. I've had my heart broken too. I don't take it lightly at all. I'm no victim and I take responsibility for my actions. Just don't assume I'm dragging people's hearts around in some kind of game. No way. Never. I'm a Cancer with a 4th house moon. I don't play with emotions like that in fact I probably care too much.

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posted February 24, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, his emails were erratic and unstable. He told me he couldn't be my friend and didn't want to have contact with me and then wrote me back again. I think I wrote him a total of three times and never even quickly. At one point my son and I were both sick and it took me a week to reply. I know there is no way anyone could ever interpret that as leading someone on. I really feel I am dealing someone who is mentally ill here and this has nothing to do with my current actions. I know the pain of holding grudges, it has caused me severe depression. I got help and I really hope he does too.

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posted February 24, 2013 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was part of his email to me:

you are the cause of my suffering over the last 12 years. I ******* hate your guts. do not ever ever ever ever ever respond to me ever again. have a nice f***ing life. I hate to tell you darling but you really f***ed with the wrong person. I'm so done with you ever forever forever forever forever. you are a terrible human being for what you've done to me. goodbye for ever. you suck. f*** you. maybe 1 day you'll grow up. have a nice f***ing life with your f***ing kid and f***ing husband. you deserve every bit of punishment that is coming to you from the universe for what you've done to me and put me through. do not respond do not respond ever ever ever ever we are so done.

Most of that is word for word in order...just a streaming spew of anger. Now can you understand why I am scared?

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posted February 24, 2013 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@hikoro my chart is at the top of the thread if you want to see it.

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posted February 25, 2013 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rosenoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please help me I am new! X

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hikoro
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posted February 25, 2013 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what?
are you seeking sympathy now?

you come across first that you have marriage problems...
now, the ex is the one with problems...and you're happy....
then, you come here posting what he wrote to you...and that you feel scared?
seriously?

if the convo is over...why are you still stirring the pot and bringing this around...if you are that satisfied with your life, and emotionally?
the ex has that much power over you?

i mean...am i the only one who finds it BIZARRE that a woman who is married and has a son seems to be so focused on a silly convo with an ex...who she hasnt seen in 15 years and who has absolutely no way to harm her?

come on...
you are a drama queen and an attention seeker...
if not, then move on and let it drop.

and the fact that you posted his response...and you continue with this dealing
tsk tsk...tacky and, no, i dont believe you, i dont think you are seeking to understand where he is coming from....
nope.

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posted February 25, 2013 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yeah. Your posts are still so mememe, do u not realise that? Like seriously, *shakes head* get a grip woman. Obviously U fcked the guy up bad for him to have that venom. He sounds like a very wounded guy imo. Just leave him alone and start working on your marriage -_-

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posted February 25, 2013 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Trined&Squared:
This was part of his email to me:

you are the cause of my suffering over the last 12 years. I ******* hate your guts. do not ever ever ever ever ever respond to me ever again. have a nice f***ing life. I hate to tell you darling but you really f***ed with the wrong person. I'm so done with you ever forever forever forever forever. you are a terrible human being for what you've done to me. goodbye for ever. you suck. f*** you. maybe 1 day you'll grow up. have a nice f***ing life with your f***ing kid and f***ing husband. you deserve every bit of punishment that is coming to you from the universe for what you've done to me and put me through. do not respond do not respond ever ever ever ever we are so done.

Most of that is word for word in order...just a streaming spew of anger. Now can you understand why I am scared?


Sounds like somebodys been listening to a little too much Taylor Swift lol

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posted February 25, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trined&Squared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think what you want. I know in my heart that this isn't about drama, just the safety of myself and my family. I don't have to justify anything. Making assumptions and accusations is pretty juvenile considering HE contacted me.

I am very regretful that it hurt him this bad for this many years and I did tell him that. I did not lead him on at ALL I was talking like a friend. He has every right to express his anger, I guess I just didn't expect to feel so threatened by it. If I ruined someone's life, well yes I deserve what he gave me, but I still think he sounds unstable. And that is the only reason I posted. I was scared of him and I still am.

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posted February 25, 2013 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Trined&Squared:
Think what you want. I know in my heart that this isn't about drama, just the safety of myself and my family. I don't have to justify anything. Making assumptions and accusations is pretty juvenile considering HE contacted me.

I am very regretful that it hurt him this bad for this many years and I did tell him that. I did not lead him on at ALL I was talking like a friend. He has every right to express his anger, I guess I just didn't expect to feel so threatened by it. If I ruined someone's life, well yes I deserve what he gave me, but I still think he sounds unstable. And that is the only reason I posted. I was scared of him and I still am.


I wouldnt be too worried honestly. That email sounded to me like a typical Aries blow up. All my serious relationships have been with Aries men and they just have a tendency to fly off the handle when they feel wounded. Its a bit funny once you get used to it, like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

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