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Topic: Hera, etc (good horary readers)- Will We Meet Again?
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 425 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 10:10 AM
so, going back to the thread on 'will he attend this event'... the event was canceled and accordingly, it will be postponed for later. im just more than ready to know whether i should keep my hopes up, or...let it go and face the fact that this was just a one-time meeting. which is hard, since, there has been a lot of synchronizities and intuitive connection with this individual, even confirmed by professional astrologers. perchance, this is my fault for making things far more 'incredible' than how they really are meant to be. it is difficult to let go of something that has such a 'magical' impact on you. our composite is nice...the synastry is good, we have past-life and strong karmic connections...which prolly explains the 'magic'... and, i swear i know him...even other people tell me i describe as ive known him all of my life. the chart is below. here, im confused as to which significators to use. if im correct, i could be either moon or mercury... and, he could be mars or jupiter. the connection between moon and mars is good...or is it negative? because moon and mars dont make for a good combo? however, mercury and jupiter square. another thing, saturn is in the 1st, which ive read means that the matter is not being seen clearly, or, lost hope. in conclusion, the answer is no. i would appreciate the conclusion of other folks, im ready to cry all i want and close this chapter of my life. thank you. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2376 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 12:02 PM
You are Venus conjunct Sun, which means you are "combust" it's not good in horary, but I'm not entirely sure why, but searching it up might help you. He's Mars conjunct Moon, but separating by 4 (was the event 4 days ago?) To me this all means no, but I'm still learning. Totally missed Saturn in first. It usually is a negative answer as well..sorry but it could also mean since you asked before (first chart you casted about this), then it simply means everything you need to know is in that chart. Since the event got canceled, then it may mean he isn't going or can't attend any other day. It could also mean to go by the answer you got in that last chart, despite the event being canceled. Although, I didn't see your chart.. Bumping this for others to add some thoughts . IP: Logged |
cappy1277 Moderator Posts: 1468 From: philadelphia,pa Registered: Jul 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 12:09 PM
Not readable...Saturn rx in 1st and ascendant is via combusta which refers to querant''s state of mind...anxiety, too much worry, seeing things in a different light and being your own worst enemy. You might need to meditate for a while on the question and come back to it at a different time. Also you are venus and he is mars (7th other person). The fifth house would describe what kind of relationship and the qualities. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2376 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 12:20 PM
Wouldn't via combusta count for the actual planet & not the asc? Is Venus/libra asc in horary always voc?...IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 5548 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 13, 2013 12:44 PM
Hi, Hikoro!Please don't cry. The chart shows very much your desperate state, Saturn in the 1st is often a good indicator of high anxiety regarding the issue, which indeed is not seen clearly. Also, you are combusted by the Sun's rays which also "blinds" and inhabilitates you. I would say that the way in which you view things at the moment is perhaps not the correct one, whether that is too gloomy (sat in 1st) or too romantic and rosy (venus in pisces). IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 5548 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 13, 2013 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmpressMendez: Wouldn't via combusta count for the actual planet & not the asc? Is Venus/libra asc in horary always voc?...
I've seen astrologers interpret even aspects to angles and consider them as solving the issue. VC applies to angles too but for me VC is not really an impediment for judgment other than telling me that something is hidden and unclear. I can still get *some* details from the chart regardless, though I might take it less serious given the VC. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2376 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted March 13, 2013 12:55 PM
Oh, so Libra rising is automatically voc? O_o That's weird..never heard of that before :P quote: Originally posted by Hera: I've seen astrologers interpret even aspects to angles and consider them as solving the issue. VC applies to angles too but for me VC is not really an impediment for judgment other than telling me that something is hidden and unclear. I can still get *some* details from the chart regardless, though I might take it less serious given the VC.
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 5548 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 13, 2013 01:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmpressMendez: Oh, so Libra rising is automatically voc? O_o That's weird..never heard of that before :P
Last half of it can be considered, yes. Not everybody does, though. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 425 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 03:24 PM
first of alll.... i want to say 'thank you, thank you!' to hera, empress, cappy...for responding. it really made my day. i truly appreciate this. at the beginning i thought...no, ivent asked this but, you're right. i found a chart that i had done about this same question. it is below. so, it may be that saturn in the first means 'you've asked enough'. i guess that....it does hurt. because, i fail to understand the reason ive had (and still have) such a strong synchronicity with this person for just a one-chance meeting. it just doesnt make sense to me. i mean, i started dreaming of him before i met him..still do. and, then, looking at our composite, synastry...asteroids, there was so much 'past life' and 'wonder'..that i think i started idealizing things more, unfortunately for me. when i met him, he felt so...warm, like 'coming home'..it was a girl who introduced him to me. he said something, she didnt catch what it was, he was hurried to check in to this 'exclusive event' (he was two hours late)...we didnt want to be like these weird stalkers, so...we ended up leaving. although, had it been for me, i would have waited. deep down i think he was going to come back and that he had said...'ill be back' (foreign language) he kept looking at me..and i him. oh so sad... im not stating that he 'is the one' but...it would have been nice to understand the reason all of this is going on. and, i dont even believe in past lives. there are three charts. the one where i asked the question for the first time. the second chart is about this event, which he was going to go to, but it got canceled and...i was told it would be postponed for the month of april. i know he is going to be in an event in the month of june, but this event is 'exclusive' so...no chance there. the third chart is the 'first meeting chart' first chart - will i meet him again? i think this is a no. because the sun (me) is flowing away from saturn (him). i never got a response about this chart here. second chart - event chart - got canceled at the end. third chart - first meeting. doesnt look good, mutable moon...jupiter opposing moon. IP: Logged |
cappy1277 Moderator Posts: 1468 From: philadelphia,pa Registered: Jul 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 04:44 PM
Libra ascendant is not always VOC...only when it is between 15 degrees libra and 15 degrees Scorpio. It's not that the chart can't be judged on that alone but it shows the querant''s frame of mind. Saturn rx in the 1st shows itself in the 1st house as whatever you may ask will be difficult ..."if Saturn be in the Ascendant, especially Retrograde, the matter of that Question seldom or never comes to good." IP: Logged |
cappy1277 Moderator Posts: 1468 From: philadelphia,pa Registered: Jul 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 04:46 PM
And you're welcome. ❤❤Your state of mind is clearly showing up in the first chart you have showed us. Just relax and wait a few more weeks to cast a chart even though it may be hard. ❤ IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 13, 2013 04:50 PM
@hikoroI'm going to be a bit blunt, so my apologies in advance if it seems harsh. For some reason, you have this guy's birthday, but not his phone number? Why don't you figure out a way to get his phone number or his email, through mutual friends or through the organization that is hosting the event and just call him or email him? It might be a bit forward, but it will likely create more positive energy then negative; where as, chart after chart seem to only give you progressively worse answers and cause you harm and worry - which are not helping your mind and heart. Plus, at some point astrology can only get you so far... Try it? And let us know how we can help besides cheering you on from the sidelines! GOOD LUCK! FINGERS CROSSED! IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 425 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 04:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by cappy1277: And you're welcome. ❤❤Your state of mind is clearly showing up in the first chart you have showed us. Just relax and wait a few more weeks to cast a chart even though it may be hard. ❤
thank you again. quick question, that other chart, that i did on november, also dealing with whether i would see him again..it does not count? IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 425 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 05:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by imeanj: @hikoroI'm going to be a bit blunt, so my apologies in advance if it seems harsh.
not at all. quote: For some reason, you have this guy's birthday, but not his phone number? Why don't you figure out a way to get his phone number or his email, through mutual friends or through the organization that is hosting the event and just call him or email him? you cant imagine....ive done anything and everything possible. ive become my own private investigator. you see..he is the 'public figure' for this organization. it happens that this org may be committing fraud, supposedly...the organization is based on collecting money for research in regards to a disorder that leaves people incapacitated, so..it deals with a handicap. but...where is the money going? and, how come the lifestyle of the president and the son of the president seems to have considerably improved so rapidly? the accounts even....information is missing. that girl i mentioned and others...they were not even allowed to reach him, because the members of the org, suspect that they will let him know about their suspicions. i could go on and on about this....but, this is a short summary. this is one of the reasons i also want to contact him, since he doesnt know anything about this...after all, he is just a 'face'. some of us fear that eventually, the light will come out and, he will be thrown into the mud...and, he is actually a good person and, i cant help but care for him. he is at a moment where he wants to grow career-wise and reputation. i did get an e-mail, but, i never received a response. i dont know...something tells me that that e-mail was not active anyways. quote: Try it? And let us know how we can help besides cheering you on from the sidelines! GOOD LUCK! FINGERS CROSSED!
thank you.
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imeanj Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 13, 2013 05:31 PM
Are you in Japan? i.e. is this why it is so hard? IP: Logged |
cappy1277 Moderator Posts: 1468 From: philadelphia,pa Registered: Jul 2009
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posted March 13, 2013 07:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: thank you again. quick question, that other chart, that i did on november, also dealing with whether i would see him again..it does not count?
I would only go with the very first chart that you made IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 14, 2013 01:59 AM
Let's read the first chart, why don't you put up a new thread with that chart only. Make it BIG so we can see it.AND, tell us what your original question was - and some background in case we feel like the question should be reworded. Hug! IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 425 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 14, 2013 03:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by cappy1277: I would only go with the very first chart that you made
thanks IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 425 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 14, 2013 03:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by imeanj: Let's read the first chart, why don't you put up a new thread with that chart only. Make it BIG so we can see it.AND, tell us what your original question was - and some background in case we feel like the question should be reworded. Hug!
no, i think this thread is fine. i dont want to start spamming, and going beyond this seems too obsessive and anxious. for some reason, this is the size that comes out with astrodienst. i cant make it any bigger than this. my original question is the same..if i will ever ever see him again. ...dont think that is different from 'will we ever meet' as to background, i think ive given enough info. i cant think of anything that may seem im hiding something or that anything is hidden.... thank you. IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 14, 2013 01:06 PM
You are correct, Sun and Saturn do not make any aspects, but Moon and Saturn do. But I think its a minor aspect and it looks like its separating not applying. I think you could also look at the house here to get further clarification, but I am unsure about what house seeing someone again is. Meetings perhaps? Also, the dignity and the debility of the planets - however, I am off to work right now, so will have to get to it later. For your own research and learning.. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html Hug and hope this is helpful! IP: Logged | |