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Hope73
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posted March 17, 2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please read my chart!
Thank you!


Ps Can anyone tell me how to cope and paste the image for the chart instead of including a link? I noticed that some of you are able to include the image of your horary chart. I do not know how to do that!

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posted March 17, 2013 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the answer is yes, you will get back together. (I'm not an expert thought) maybe someone here will confirm it for me.

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posted March 17, 2013 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am still learning about horary. Will order a book but do not know which book is the best to buy!


Thank you all for any help you can provide me with.

Please explain all you can about the different symbols, trine, sextile,houses, etc... as it helps me to learn about horary charts and other aspects of astrology.

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posted March 17, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2013 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Hope - Do you mind embedding the actual chart here?

Directions: http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=11&Start=2455736.99&End=2459389&Session=2456369.1223

Also, multiple charts is a no-no and asking the question multiple times in multiple formats ends up confusing the situation. Please just post the first chart you asked, and clarify your original question as best as you can in one sentence preferably - yes or no question get the best answers, and generally we can see more than you expect in the chart.

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Originally posted by appleberry:

**** Below are instructions for doing a proper horary chart- it is not the same as a natal chart****


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HOW TO MAKE A HORARY CHART:
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1. www.astro.com (you should have your own free account)

2. select MY ASTRO

3. select ADD NEW ASTRO DATA

4. first name= write your horary question here if you like/ choose EVENT/ all the other 'birth' information is the exact time and place that you asked the horary question

5. continue and on the next page you are taken to select FREE HOROSCOPES

6. select EXTENDED CHART SELECTION

7. on the Extended Chart Selection page, choose the following options:
-Horoscope for: your horary question
-type of chart: Natal
-drawing style: Astrodienst Style (works best for me)
-House System: Regiomontanus

- Additional objects: I only use Pars Fortunae... I haven't read anything about anything else helping, except for other Arabic Parts. Putting all of the other asteroids can be too much. They don't really offer information that is reliable and too many objects makes the chart too small and hard to read. Less is more in this case.
-Additional Asteroids: sometimes I will try to find the asteroid names for the people involved, especially the querent and quesited, or of the location if there is another location involved... just for interests sake. I've never read anything about this info being reliable for readings but I like to see it for myself.
-MEAN NODE and SOME FIXED STARS give necessary information in Horary.

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Again, that's just how I do it, based on what I have learned so far... there might be others who can add more info, give another or better way... but this way at least gets the chart done.


>>> ADD: If you do post a question, it is very helpful if I know the genders of all the people involved. If it's not obvious by the question, as well, let me know what kind of question it is for you- relationship? work? career? family? (let me know what kind of family member you are talking about if you are cuz that changes things, ex: sister, cousin, grandmother) money? etc.

You don't have to reveal anything you are not comfortable revealing but just know that the more I understand about the question, the more I can tell you and be accurate. If I look at the question like a work question and it's actually a question about a contract, I won't answer in a way that makes sense. I probably won't even understand the chart correctly and the symbolism could be all off.
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A great place to upload it is on PHOTOBUCKET so you can just copy paste the link to Lindaland... easiest way to post I think.

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So this is how I do it but others may have some other tips or info that I hope they will add if they do!

IMPORTANT:
"It is pointless asking the same question twice as it will only produce an invalid horoscope on the second occasion. It is the horoscope that was drawn for the moment when the question was first asked that is the valid one. It is essential to keep a record of questions in order to avoid asking the same question or one very similar to it, twice, perhaps in a diary especially kept for horary."


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posted March 17, 2013 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for letting me know how to use photobucket. That was very kind of you


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posted March 17, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2013 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2013 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You = Libra = Venus = 6th House Pisces = Exalted
Him = Aries = Mars = 6th House Aries = Home

ASPECTS = Conjunction 10 counts - Yes - I am guessing this is in weeks, but could be months

RECEPTION = Mutual Reception = Good, I think though he has the upper hand because he is in domicile, but also because Mars moves slower than Venus. i.e. I think you are more into him than he is into you.

HOWEVER, there are some things I have questions about.

This is all taking place in his 12th House, which is hidden? Likewise, I'm wondering WHO the Sun is. The Sun is peregrine (powerless) which is nice, but is in between the two of you. And is this all happening at work, this is in your sixth house instead of your seventh?? Likewise, this reminds me of Virgo36's chart with Saturn in the 2nd.

HMM... (okay something is telling me to take a break!)

And I'm still obsessed with these YODS! @Hera that was for you! Also, can we get into the Lords - I don't quite get them.

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posted March 17, 2013 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2013 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, his work means that he travels a lot.

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posted March 17, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imeanj:
You = Libra = Venus = 6th House Pisces = Exalted
Him = Aries = Mars = 6th House Aries = Home

ASPECTS = Conjunction 10 counts - Yes - I am guessing this is in weeks, but could be months

RECEPTION = Mutual Reception = Good, I think though he has the upper hand because he is in domicile, but also because Mars moves slower than Venus. i.e. I think you are more into him than he is into you.

HOWEVER, there are some things I have questions about.

This is all taking place in his 12th House, which is hidden? Likewise, I'm wondering WHO the Sun is. The Sun is peregrine (powerless) which is nice, but is in between the two of you. And is this all happening at work, this is in your sixth house instead of your seventh?? Likewise, this reminds me of Virgo36's chart with Saturn in the 2nd.

HMM... (okay something is telling me to take a break!)

And I'm still obsessed with these YODS! @Hera that was for you! Also, can we get into the Lords - I don't quite get them.



What does ASPECTS and RECEPTION mean?
I am asking because I am eager to learn all I can about astrology

And about CONJUNCTION 10?
How and where on the chart are they?

If any one can educate me I would be most grateful

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posted March 17, 2013 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/horary-astrology/

And go back and look at the previous charts and threads in regards to Horary - you will learn a lot that way. Then obviously google yourself.

ASPECT: When planets interact - or come into each other's orbs CONJUNCT - coming together at the same point - normally positive; where as, SQUARE or OPPOSING is negative. Its either coming together APPLYING (A) or moving apart SEPARATING (S).

(look at the chart at the bottom of the jpeg, where Venus and Mars intersect on the chart.

1 - the sign is conjunction
2 - the number 10 - is in degrees, i.e. ten counts
2 - A stands for applying - coming together)

RECEPTION: Don't worry about this yet. Get your basics down.

Start reading regular natal charts too...

Good Luck!

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posted March 17, 2013 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectsinastrology.html

There's a lot to learn out there. Good luck!

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posted March 17, 2013 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imeanj:
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectsinastrology.html

There's a lot to learn out there. Good luck!


Thank you

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posted March 17, 2013 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh? How is there mutual reception? Curious..


quote:
Originally posted by imeanj:
You = Libra = Venus = 6th House Pisces = Exalted
Him = Aries = Mars = 6th House Aries = Home

ASPECTS = Conjunction 10 counts - Yes - I am guessing this is in weeks, but could be months

RECEPTION = Mutual Reception = Good, I think though he has the upper hand because he is in domicile, but also because Mars moves slower than Venus. i.e. I think you are more into him than he is into you.

HOWEVER, there are some things I have questions about.

This is all taking place in his 12th House, which is hidden? Likewise, I'm wondering WHO the Sun is. The Sun is peregrine (powerless) which is nice, but is in between the two of you. And is this all happening at work, this is in your sixth house instead of your seventh?? Likewise, this reminds me of Virgo36's chart with Saturn in the 2nd.

HMM... (okay something is telling me to take a break!)

And I'm still obsessed with these YODS! @Hera that was for you! Also, can we get into the Lords - I don't quite get them.


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posted March 17, 2013 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Huh? How is there mutual reception? Curious..



Hello,

Can you explain the reason for your enquiry please?

I would love to hear your views regarding the chart I posted.

Thank you!

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posted March 18, 2013 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No aspects within sign of your main significators, Venus and Mars, that already indicates a No to your question. Venus is trying to get to the Sun, but the Sun is changing sign before there is contact.
The aspects of the Moon, separated sextile to Mars, so something from the past, other relevant aspects are a square to Venus and the Sun, there will be future contact, but not a love relationship.

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posted March 18, 2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Tofu - VENUS and MARS CONJUNCT in 10 counts APPLYING.

@Hera - Thank you for your attention to detail. I meant reception loosely the way that Lilly does for receiving as well. In particular, because I feel the answer is YES already.

"Reading on through Christian Astrology we can see that Lilly uses the term 'reception' loosely; sometimes he is referring to mutual reception but moreoften he uses it in a manner that is simply connected with his use of the word 'receiving' - to indicate that a planet is acknowledging an aspect from another that is visiting one of its essential dignities."

FROM: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/reception.html

@Hope - any other questions?

Hugs to all!

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posted March 18, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for your replies

Yes, I do have one more question
You said you see him&I getting back together in weeks or maybe months: can you explain?

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posted March 18, 2013 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imeanj:
@Tofu - VENUS and MARS CONJUNCT in 10 counts APPLYING.

@Hera - Thank you for your attention to detail. I meant reception loosely the way that Lilly does for receiving as well. In particular, because I feel the answer is YES already.

"Reading on through Christian Astrology we can see that Lilly uses the term 'reception' loosely; sometimes he is referring to mutual reception but moreoften he uses it in a manner that is simply connected with his use of the word 'receiving' - to indicate that a planet is acknowledging an aspect from another that is visiting one of its essential dignities."

FROM: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/reception.html

@Hope - any other questions?

Hugs to all!



Imeanj, if you read my sentence thoroughly that you will see that i mention that it is an out of sign aspect, Venus needs to change sign before it can apply to Mars. In horary this is a big obstacle, an applying aspect should perfect in the sign without going over to the other sign, , Venus needs to enter Aries, it simply doesn't count.

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posted March 18, 2013 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hope73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


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posted March 18, 2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see the Sun as any importance in relation to another person in this chart.. The sun in this chart is his co-significator as the sun always goes to the man unless you have a Leo ascendant then it goes to you. But you cannot replace the sun for the main significator of him, in this case, Mars.
In relation to attraction, it is difficult to shut if off in a blink of an eye, doesn't mean something will come of it. I am sorry , just don't want to give you false hope and hanging in there when the chart is not supporting this.

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posted March 18, 2013 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hope73:

Isn't it possible that Venus will enter Aries within days, weeks, or a few months?


Venus is certainly entering Aries quite soon ,on the 22nd of march, but that is not the point. Horary has very strict rules, one of them is that the perfection needs to happen in the sign, when you go over sign boundaries it is not counting . The moon can be an exception for this in certain cases, but we are not talking about the Moon.

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