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beijing07
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posted March 29, 2013 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Empress, You may have forgotten, but i ask if you could do a reading for me at the beginning of march? Initially, you agreed to pull a few cards but you had somr mandatory readings you had to do first. I think, we both got extremely busy and I never followed back up with you . I know you are extremely busy, but if you can. I would love if you can do a reading for me. Your readings for some people on this forum; I felt that you did a phenomenal job and your energy and accuracy of every situation resonated very well. I really would appreciate this. I know you are extremely busy person, but if you could do this please let me know . Thanks. Question: Will J choose me? Whatever insight that you can offer about the situation between J and I. If you can shed some light on any opportunities such as a reconciliation, any challenges or other people hindering us from being there.

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EmpressMendez
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posted March 29, 2013 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Beijing I'll get it done after dinner

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beijing07
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posted March 29, 2013 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Empress Thank-You!!!

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EmpressMendez
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posted March 29, 2013 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay Beijing07 I was drawn to use playing cards to address you because it's easier for yes/no questions.

Will J choose Beijing07??

Red = Yes & Black = No.

Jack of Diamonds: Yes
2 of Hearts: Yes
7 of Spades: No
Ace of Clubs: No
8 of Clubs: No

What I immediately sense with these cards is that hope isn't entirely lost between you two. This is a no, however it isn't entirely impossible for things to improve between yourself & J. It looks like there is platonic love, or a friendship between you two that is still resolvable.

I do see a lack of communication, and someone trying, or will try to communicate (rather I say, should - perhaps you should take the initiative to keep in touch with him if you want things to tilt to your favor). There's free will involved here, so you need to make the right decisions if you want things to improve & work on your favor.

Suits

Diamonds+Hearts: Happiness & success, comfort & security
Hearts+Spades: Physical, or emotional healing
Spades+Clubs: Increased difficulties, problems with work
Clubs+Clubs: Action & increased activity, taking control

Numbers

11+2: Thoughts+Cooperation
2+7: Conflict+Stagnation
7+1: Stagnation+Ending
1+8: Ending+Imbalance

Okay, so I sense some type of loss of communication, or actions. Things are currently not moving in a sense in your friendship/relationship and these cards indicate that you should take things into your own hands to stop this unbalance. You will be the one that needs to take the wheel & get things moving between you two. He will not do this on his own. There's a lot of free-will & hard work involved here that you will need to do in order for J to react, in a sense. Sadly he will not freely choose you
although there is a slim hope that your friendship/platonic relationship (2 of Hearts) may be salvaged.

Is it something like, one of you wants friendship while the other wants a relationship type of deal? You will have to make things clear & agree. There's an imbalance here with the relationship. One of you wants one thing, while the other wants another. You need to sit down and converse with him. Initiate contact if you already haven't.

I hope this makes sense, and I'm sorry for the disappointing news. Wish I had something much more positive to say, but I do hope I'm wrong about it..

Honest feedback is appreciated.

Good luck!

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beijing07
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posted March 29, 2013 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Empress Thank-You! I must say I would rather have him in my life as a friend that not have him in my life at all. You are right, there is no communication between us. I am trying to initiate communication, but i get the feeling he wants to be left alone. I text, he doesn't respond back. Im fine, with just being friends. I know he have feelings for me and its complicating things between us. I feel like if I keep pushing, trying to initiate contact he will pull further away from me.

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EmpressMendez
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posted March 29, 2013 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay just give him a little break for now. 7 of Spades is about losses, so it may mean he needs his space for now, but don't give up on him yet. There's hope for friendship these cards don't point to love just yet. I'm so sorry, but I do hope things get better between you both. You just need to make that thought clear in your head = friendship nothing more, you know? Because he senses you want something more, and he's just not ready to offer you that..

Do keep me updated if you can..

Edit: I tell you this because I don't want to give you false hope. Overall it looks like the entire relationship is unbalanced. The feelings aren't balanced. There needs to be balance with the feelings and intentions in order for things to progress positively.

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beijing07
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posted March 29, 2013 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't give up, but I will give him some space. He's focusing on obtaining work right now. I have told him over and over. U prefer to be friends, I even ask him could we go back to just being friends. He told me that he can't. That its hard just being friends with me. I will definitely keep you updated.

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beijing07
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posted March 29, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He wants a relationship, but he doesn't see how to go about being with me. He's in a relationship already . Im the one that's is fine with just being friends

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beijing07
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posted March 29, 2013 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's married, honestly it's not his marriage that holding him back, what's holding him back is he wants the security he has built with her, but he wants to see what life with me could be like. The problem is Saturn trine sun which means hesitancy he is a do right guy, a devoted family man that caught feelings for a 32 yr old , young black tendroni. It's fear that holds him back from me

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EmpressMendez
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posted March 29, 2013 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohh kaay, good luck with everything!

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Twirl
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posted March 31, 2013 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Beijing & Empress:
Beijing, would it be okay if I post the link here to the earlier reading I did for you on this subject?
I ask this, because I'd liked reading @empress her take & comparing how we read the cards. For 'learning purposes'. If you would be interested also of course, @empress.

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EmpressMendez
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posted March 31, 2013 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem by me Twirl.

Oh, just in case this specifically answered if he will choose her & the answer was most likely not (besides the feelings). For feelings here I only see 'friendship' however, that wasn't the question though. But unfortunately it doesn't look like he will "choose" her (according to the cards)

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beijing07
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posted March 31, 2013 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Twirl here is the reading you did for me

Hi,
I did a reading for you. I'm going to type while looking at the cards.

What I see for him is that he actually looks at the relationship as very promising. He does see the potential in it for the future. However his behaviour at current is that of letting go, but in the core he sees it as a possible promising and for it to be a for filling relationship. But he will not act on this right now. The current state of your relationship is that of being wary to one another. Rather defensive and taking distance. The message seems to be: 'don't get to close right now'.

How it got this way: I have the 9 of swords in this position which means to me that mostly' thoughts and the nightmares that live in one's mind brought the relationship to this state. Since I put the cards for you I referred this explanation to you. Meaning: it's mainly your fear and worry (and perhaps you spoke your mind about this) that turned the relationship 'defensive', makes him back off.

The instignator of this situation is a focus on devastating circumstances. But I would like to point out most of these 'nightmares' exist mainly in the head. They refer to fears, worries, shame, depression, etc which one can feel completely overwhelmed by. It also points out to me that the focus on this makes him pull away (his behaviour card was the death). Most likely you also project your feelings of fear on him, while not all of your worry is correct.

The basics of the relationship (what brought you together) shows me you actually have a rather fun and playful relationship (page wands) in which you are very fond of each other. It could also be that the way you treat and see each other is 'young'. But perhaps you both are teens or in early 20's?? Or perhaps the relationship started at a young age (one of your first loves?)

What I see for you is that you have the tendency to be very loving. You are literally overflowing with love (ace of cups) and want to surround him with that. Most likely in this case it's too much for him. You are currently smothering him.
Do you see the relationship you have with him as extremely precious? Like it's you two against the world? I also see you would like to hold on to it and are afraid of changes occurring within the dynamics between you. You would like to keep everything the same and hold the love you have close to you.

That brings me to the advice of the cards:
In the near future I see the need for rest and the need for withdrawing. What I also saw in the rest of the cards is you have a tendency to push things at this point. The cards are saying not to do that. I know this can be hard, but he seems to need his space to go through this process alone. That’s also what I see in the outcome position for now. A time needed to be alone (4 of swords).
The advice card was the hierophant. Meaning you should get a higher perspective of the situation. So not to only look at what this means for you and the future of the relationship, but to also look at the overall picture and not to let your emotions take the best of you. He needs to do this on his own and needs the time. The cards are advising you to step back for now. Try to see the full picture (and his side of the story) and be patient. Because patient is what is needed.

Hope this will be of help. Sorry to hear this is all a bit distressing at the moment

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EmpressMendez
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posted March 31, 2013 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see some similarities Twist .

The first card was the 9 of Wands, right?

That sounds like you drew three 9's. Definitely telling her to keep her distance.

I want to add to the advice. Since she mentioned that he's married the advice for her here is to respect his marriage, as it is sacred. To put herself in their position & see if she would like it if another woman wanted to interfere in her marriage. Despite of her feeling that he's unhappy, she should respect his beliefs, his choices & marriage to stay with his wife..

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Twirl
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posted March 31, 2013 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, yes, 9 of wands for current situation. I did a 'relationship dynamics' spread to gain inside. Advice in regards to him being married (hierophant) I can understand clearly with this extra info. So fully agree empress.
Saw the similarities too

@beijing: really hope you will feel better soon. Wish you well. Would love to hear updates.

Bye

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dyedye08
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posted March 31, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Empress I want you to know. That I have never asked him to choose between me and his wife. He has me in his 12th house, whereas I have him in my 11th house. I'm the one who would rather us be friends. He's the one making this difficult. I am married with kids. And if my husband felt something for another woman, and the woman wanted to interfere I wouldn't stop him. If his heart is with her, I would let him go. I can't help you feel, we can't control our feelings or what our hearts feel. Yes, I do love him, but I value our friendship a hell of lot too. I know it isn't on any of us. I have contacted him in months. I would prefer to let him come to me. Mars conjunct Pluto is known for reconciliations. So I do believe he will eventually contact me. What I fear is aspects with Neptune, which means thing will be the same. That we won't be able to discuss what needs to be discussed. I know with Saturn there are a lot of boundaries. This whole situation is complicated. I hate when other woman look at a situation and assumes the woman wants to break up a marriage. I am a firm believer in Karma, I wish him and his wife the best, I really do.

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EmpressMendez
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posted April 21, 2013 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You asked the question if he will choose you, and I got a no for you he won't choose you. I simply added to the advice card that Twirl drew for you. I wasn't saying anything else. But you keep asking about this man that clearly has no intention to bring the "friendship" back. You should just let him decide what he wants to do with his marriage, even though it may seem he's "unhappy" in your eyes. That's all I was saying....

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Originally posted by dyedye08:
@ Empress I want you to know. That I have never asked him to choose between me and his wife. He has me in his 12th house, whereas I have him in my 11th house. I'm the one who would rather us be friends. He's the one making this difficult. I am married with kids. And if my husband felt something for another woman, and the woman wanted to interfere I wouldn't stop him. If his heart is with her, I would let him go. I can't help you feel, we can't control our feelings or what our hearts feel. Yes, I do love him, but I value our friendship a hell of lot too. I know it isn't on any of us. I have contacted him in months. I would prefer to let him come to me. Mars conjunct Pluto is known for reconciliations. So I do believe he will eventually contact me. What I fear is aspects with Neptune, which means thing will be the same. That we won't be able to discuss what needs to be discussed. I know with Saturn there are a lot of boundaries. This whole situation is complicated. I hate when other woman look at a situation and assumes the woman wants to break up a marriage. I am a firm believer in Karma, I wish him and his wife the best, I really do.

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posted April 22, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Ohh kaay, good luck with everything!

Damn, if that doesn't say it all.

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beijing07
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posted April 22, 2013 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Empress I appreciate your honesty. its not obsession, it's guilt and regret that I feel. Before him and I got laid off, he asked me what I wanted. I told him I just wanted to be friends, for once in my life I choose the logical approach, my marriage has been failing way before he ever showed up, but instead of choosing to be with him. I choose my marriage, my family. You see it all the times on lifetime,you read about it. The woman who left her husband for the other man and how it ends disasteriously for them. Everything I was feeling for him, I put into my marriage, trying to forget years of abuse and make it work. I thought if I could fix my marriage, I could forget him. The readings I get because I wonder what if. The day i will never forget January 8, 2013. this was the day he last called me, this was the day i said some things that i really didnt mean. i guess i can blame moon conjuct saturn for this one. He once again, once me what it was that i wanted.i told him, i didnt want anything, that i was changing my number. i told him that i wanted him out of my life. i told him i couldnt focus in my marriage being friends with him. we got inyo this bug agrument, both trying to inflict as much pain on the other. i did what i said I would, i changed my jumber. i'm emotionally damaged, I watch one child get snatched out of my life and I watch my husband beat me and caused me to miscarry yet I stayed. Then this guy comes into my life, and I choose to stay with my abusive husband because I was scared. i was scared of what i feeling for this man. thats why i got into astrology i started analysizing our friendship. i guess that the moon conjuct saturn, emotional distancing and desiring to know what the other feels all at the same time. i guess Saturn conjuct Neptune hold, my husband and I share is what has my indecisive. I haven't made a decision to leave my marriage. I have a step son who lost his biologically mother at the age of two, I came into his life when he was on 3 years he's 13 now. I'm the only mother he knows then there is my daughter she loves her father. I stay to get them happy. So, If you are going to judge then judge after you have all the facts. I know I him, and I just want the opportunity to right a wrong. I want to tell him what's in my heart, but I'm afraid. He doesn't know that I have feelings for him, we once tried talking about feelings and moon conjuct Saturn was the reason we couldn't get our point across. I just wanted to be friends, so after all was said and done. He told me he didn't think he could just be friends with me, this was before our big emotional blow up. I haven't contacted him, but I do wonder if I made the right decision sometimes. It's obvious I did, from another reading I got his wife knows about me and she isnt allowing him to reconcile. she even threatened to kick him out if he didnt find work, so imagine. its possible my husband may know i have feelings for someone else. I did what I was suppose too, I choose my husband.

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beijing07
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posted April 22, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The synastries are not all for this one guy. There is 3 men in my life. My husband, the co- worker, high school sweetheart who want stop popping in and out of my life

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beijing07
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posted April 22, 2013 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My highschool sweetheart, I met him when I was on the 4th grade. First person, who I confided in about being molested. He was so in love with me, even though I loved him I kept hurting him and even now he still thinks I'm DA One.

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EmpressMendez
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posted April 22, 2013 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not judging anyone. I was giving advice & answering your question. Take that as you wish. You created 3 accounts on here for what reason? Not sure. To me, that speaks volumes about your honesty & intentions, but like you said who am I to judge? We have all gave you readings under your different names regarding this man. It's unfair to keep beating the same horse, & then get defensive over the answers you are given. I'm not sure why you asked if he will choose you. To me, that's asking if he will choose you over his wife. But whatever, I'm glad I was able to shed some light on this for you, & hopefully you accept the honest advice. And if not, then that's fine too. Good luck & goodbye.

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beijing07
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posted April 22, 2013 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do some users create multiple accounts?


For me, when I first joined this forum. I had a synastry chart interpreted for co-worker. Now, as you all know people like to know the story behind the synastry.

I gave the back-story and in return all I got were rude comments and ended up being judged.

All people managed to hear was he was married, what about the fact that I choose my husband.

What about the fact that we were friends, doesn’t that count for anything.

Every other person that read the thread all they wanted to was past judgment.


Readings were not done on the same guy, high school sweet heart has same initials too. You would get readings done too, on a person that keep popping in and out of your life since the 4th grade. You want to make sure of what they intentions were. He's in a relationship too, but keep telling me he has feelings for me. I didn't say you were judging, but a lot of women do especially when they are married themselves.
Goodbye

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