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EmpressMendez
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posted April 06, 2013 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All credit for this Tarot spread goes to biddytarot.com (I bought this from her last year, but she no longer offers it on her site).

Anyway, so I decided to do a reading about M & see our potential to be together either this, or next month. My question is focused on that. I believe this is spot on. I love this spread..

Current situation – 10 of Swords rx = We aren't talking at all.

How you see M – King of Pentacles rx (yes he is obsessive and possessive, very sexual maybe too much) = Of course I am attracted to him. I see him as the type that I want to be with for a long time, but he's ungrounded and unreliable. At times I feel that he just doesn't know what he wants, but I contribute to that (too personal to explain).

Your hopes for the relationship – 6 of Pentacles rx = I hope that he gives more, shares more of his time, overall communicate more (briefly explaining things no time for full on interpretation, lol)

What may be holding you back from pursuing the relationship – 9 of Swords rx = Fear, anxiety, insecurity

How M sees you – Queen of Wands

M's hopes for the relationship – 2 of Swords (I hate this card) = To make a rational decision.

What may be holding M back from pursuing the relationship – Lovers rx = He has a girlfriend, duhh :3 [yes, he told me]

What is the future potential for the relationship – Queen of Pentacles rx = This makes me feel like I'll always be the mistress, or that his ex will always linger. You know?

How to facilitate the best outcomes – 10 of Cups = This I'm not sure what is trying to tell me. What is it to keep him close as 'family'? I can't really deal with that! LOL. We'll end up arguing, and I'm so jealous..ugh..I can't..=( OR maybe just focus on my OWN family.

The reason he got a girlfriend is because he thinks I'm still not over my ex, and since we live together, plus I won't meet him in real life..all of that plus other things is what caused us to be this way. I just wanted to show you guys how Lovers always shows up when there is another person in the querent and/or quesitor's life. It shows up reversed, upright..same meaning for me..

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posted April 06, 2013 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed the King of Pentacles rx & the Queen of Pentacles rx. We always get cards like this that 'match'. In the past he would be the King of Cups rx & I would be the Queen of Cups rx

It's weird. I don't get that with any other person.

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posted April 06, 2013 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to offer one of these to someone that has a relationship as a "friend" only, or someone that is energetically present in your life, but that you haven't actually been with. I want to see how accurate it is for you.

Make sure this is someone that is already around you. Not someone from your past, or that is distant from you and that you truly know likes you back..

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posted April 06, 2013 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Empress,

Thanks for showing this spread and how you read the Lovers. I really love these sharing of experiences with the cards

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posted April 06, 2013 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem Twirl. I don't really use reversals though - I use elements some elements clash when near other cards like Air & Earth so to me becomes reversed in a sense .

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posted April 06, 2013 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. if you'd like to, Empress, you can practice by doing a reading about the situation I had months ago.. if you remember reading an horary chart for me on the subject. I know that he liked me as a friend, but we haven't talked since early December..

If that doesn't quite fit, then I'm fine with you doing a reading for someone else instead. Just thought I'd ask!

Edit: Actually, I changed my mind lol.. I'm not really focused on that situation anymore, so it would probably make more sense for you to do a spread for someone who really needs insight into their situation.

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posted April 06, 2013 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empress,

Are you only looking for "romantic" partnerships with this spread? If not, I think I might have a perfect situation for you to practice the reading on

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posted April 06, 2013 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey calliope it depends, but yea the main focus is romance/love ;3

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posted April 06, 2013 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All right, well it may not work then. The relationship is between myself and one of my parents, so it's not romantic... but it IS a strained/difficult/obstacles-in-the-way sort of relationship, which I though might be able to fit into the paradigm you're trying to test. Sorry I couldn't help!

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posted April 06, 2013 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't try it on me and C. I've gotten lovers as an outcome between us 3 times so maybe you can give me some insight.

Also I know you get a better impression when you do the reading for someone rather than me posting the reading I did for myself.

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posted April 07, 2013 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rhia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I might have a suitable situation but I have had reservations about asking, as I suspect I wouldn't want to hear the outcome! But I suppose the situation is the same either way!

I have known him for about six months. We hit it off immediately in a way I've never felt before and we have admitted we both have feelings for each other. Because of past issues & external circumstances he doesn't want to get involved. He is like a rabbit in headlights with any sort of emotional stuff and completely shuts off into self-protect mode and tells himself that he doesn't need anyone and he's better off on his own etc etc so I'm certain they'll say that he wants nothing from the relationship. We're just friends now.

I think a reading would be all doom and gloom at the moment, but I have faith that all will work out. I think it might be months in coming rather than 'on the cards' now, so to speak! They will probably tell me to give up and move on but I'm too stubborn. I'd be interested to have your take though!

I haven't seen him for a couple of weeks as he's been away.

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posted April 07, 2013 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'll do it for both of you ;3.

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posted April 07, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For littlecloud

Current situation – 10 of Swords: Are you guys still talking?

How you see M – 10 of Wands: Maybe you see him as someone that is struggling

Your hopes for the relationship – 9 of Wands rx: You hope for walls to be torn. No fear or defensive stance. You hope that he doesn't hurt you, or you want to be able to trust him

What may be holding you back from pursuing the relationship – Death rx: There's something from the past you're maybe not letting go

How M sees you – Queen of Pentacles rx (I love how a court card always pops up here )

M's hopes for the relationship – 4 of Swords rx: He hopes to heal from past hurts. Did he do something to hurt u in the past or vice versa?

What may be holding M back from pursuing the relationship – 8 of Swords: He feels mentally trapped. He may be a little insecure, or maybe he just doesn't want to feel trapped in a relationship. Pessimism

What is the future potential for the relationship – 3 of Wands: Does he live at a distance from u?

How to facilitate the best outcomes – 6 of Pentacles: Sharing confidences

Not sure how accurate this is for you, I quickly tried to interpret. I may come back later on to see it more in depth. Sorry if it doesn't make sense to you

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posted April 07, 2013 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of it relates.. But his initial is C not M...so maybe you read for someone else?

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posted April 07, 2013 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For rhia

Current situation – Hermit: Withdrawn, distance, searching, being single. Getting to know each other

How you see him– 7 of Pentacles: Someone who is slow to act, hesitant, stagnating, patient

Your hopes for the relationship – 6 of Wands: To win him over

What may be holding you back from pursuing the relationship – 10 of Wands rx: Too hard, a struggle, past baggage

How M sees you – (ignore M) 8 of Cups rx: Hmm, not entire sure maybe someone that is giving up?

M's hopes for the relationship – 4 of Cups rx: For things not to be boring, trying to be friendly, engaging , not being depressed/ignoring or taking u for granted

What may be holding M back from pursuing the relationship – 8 of Wands rx: Speediness, slowing down, taking things slow..do u two only communicate online?

What is the future potential for the relationship – Queen of Cups rx: Hmm maybe disappointing

How to facilitate the best outcomes – Wheel: Just let the Universe handle this destiny, fate, etc

Hope that makes some sense

Both of you ignore the "M's"

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posted April 07, 2013 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, sorry ignore the M's


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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Some of it relates.. But his initial is C not M...so maybe you read for someone else?

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posted April 07, 2013 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
For littlecloud

Current situation – 10 of Swords: Are you guys still talking?

How you see M – 10 of Wands: Maybe you see him as someone that is struggling

Your hopes for the relationship – 9 of Wands rx: You hope for walls to be torn. No fear or defensive stance. You hope that he doesn't hurt you, or you want to be able to trust him

What may be holding you back from pursuing the relationship – Death rx: There's something from the past you're maybe not letting go

How M sees you – Queen of Pentacles (I love how a court card always pops up here )

M's hopes for the relationship – 4 of Swords rx: He hopes to heal from past hurts. Did he do something to hurt u in the past or vice versa?

What may be holding M back from pursuing the relationship – 8 of Swords: He feels mentally trapped. He may be a little insecure, or maybe he just doesn't want to feel trapped in a relationship. Pessimism

What is the future potential for the relationship – 3 of Wands: Does he live at a distance from u?

How to facilitate the best outcomes – 6 of Pentacles: Sharing confidences

Not sure how accurate this is for you, I quickly tried to interpret. I may come back later on to see it more in depth. Sorry if it doesn't make sense to you


We are still talking, where texting when I read this. I can't say I see him as someone who is struggling but more so someone who doesn't ask for help.

He has been fairly effective in tearing down my walls and getting me to trust him, it's his walls that I feel are still up. I do hope he doesn't hurt me due to my past that is hard for me to let go.

I was hoping you'd elaborate on the queen of pents just your own view of what the card says to you. (it has popped up before)

I can't speak for his hopes but he hasn't hurt me or vice versa.

I'm not sure about the 8 of swords...I can see where he would be mentally trapped.

He doesn't live very far exactly, he lives at the border of a different state that is easy to get to. But we both may move in a few months...

Sharing confidences...yea I can see how this would help..generally it helps in any relationship.

I don't know if it's because you didn't go into more depth, but I don't feel that connected to this reading. I do appreciate you taking time to do the reading in the first place

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posted April 07, 2013 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Empress, if you are still available. I would like a reading. JT and I are like best friends, never been together intimatley but there is definitely love type feelings which has over friendship very complicated. What is our potential? If you can shed some light on our friendship and the connection we share. I will truly appreciate this

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posted April 07, 2013 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yw littlecloud . I may have misinterpreted the cards & yeah idk what they may mean to you & your situation, but good luck!

Dyedye, sorry I was just testing something out :]

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posted April 08, 2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. M texted me last night after 6 days of nothing, and now R messaged me after I have been ignoring him for almost 2 weeks. It's as if they conspire to contact me at the same time , or something.

Just found this weird. :P

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posted April 08, 2013 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could be ovulating.

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posted April 08, 2013 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's supposed to come around the 20th of each month, lol. I know a week before I get compliments/looks from men that never happen prior to ovulating :P.

Makes me wish I look like that every day!

EDIT:
You know what! I think you are right because last month it came the 15th (sorry TMI)!!!!

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posted April 08, 2013 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll double check my notes and I can likely give you a round about time when you ovulate. It would be interesting to see. Although the idea would be that you have to be around the male so that he can sense the change in your hormones.

This isn't tmi for me, so don't worry.

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posted April 08, 2013 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not really around these two in real life - we just interact online . Maybe they can still sense it somehow? (weird world we live in).

I know a week before my period starts I have always noticed that men (well, people in general) find me more attractive. They flirt more, smile more, nicer, etc.

My last period was the 15th and the one prior was the 19th.

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posted April 09, 2013 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rhia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey this is great Empress, thankyou very much! I'll go through and give you my opinion for interest's sake from my point of view inside the situation. He is an 'M' btw!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
For rhia

Current situation – Hermit: Withdrawn, distance, searching, being single. Getting to know each other

This is spot on, from many perspectives. We've both been very isolated for the last couple of weeks for different reasons. He has been away for the last couple of weeks spending time on his own and I have been taking 'me' time and doing a lot of thinking on my own. We're both slightly hermit-like at the best of times - enjoy our own company. In the wider relationship we are taking time to get to know each other.

How you see him– 7 of Pentacles: Someone who is slow to act, hesitant, stagnating, patient

This is exactly right, I see him as quite passive in this context, one to sit and wait/ hope for something to happen or not happen but not do anything about it. Plus he is very focused on work at the moment (pents).

Your hopes for the relationship – 6 of Wands: To win him over

Ha this makes me feel like I think of him as a challenge to be conquered; it's not really like that but yep I definitely would like to win him over!

What may be holding you back from pursuing the relationship – 10 of Wands rx: Too hard, a struggle, past baggage

Yeah probably over-stretching myself, trying too hard/ taking on too much.

How M sees you – (ignore M) 8 of Cups rx: Hmm, not entire sure maybe someone that is giving up?

I suspect he sees me as choosing not to move on. When we discussed how we felt, he said that he wasn't ready yet and I said that I didn't want to put any pressure on him but I would stick around if he wanted. We decided to take things slowly - get to know each other better.

M's hopes for the relationship – 4 of Cups rx: For things not to be boring, trying to be friendly, engaging , not being depressed/ignoring or taking u for granted

I think the four of cups would pretty much sum up things so far in respect to him - I can almost picture him trying to ignore the cup being offered to him because it's too scary to think about! He can be very emotionally withdrawn/ defensive. Optimistically (or perhaps unrealistically!), being reversed maybe he hopes that he could go back and accept the cup!

What may be holding M back from pursuing the relationship – 8 of Wands rx: Speediness, slowing down, taking things slow..do u two only communicate online?

He is fairly rubbish at non face-to-face communication which is a definite hinderance! I think he doesn't have the confidence to act with conviction, so he just ends up going around in a circle doubting himself and thinking that I don't really want to talk to him etc. We live in the same building so most of our communication is face-to-face. I think on a more general level this is what holds him back - lack of self-confidence meaning that he spends all his time agonising rather than doing.

What is the future potential for the relationship – Queen of Cups rx: Hmm maybe disappointing

Probably suppressed emotions! It would be very in-keeping with the theme of our relationship. More specifically it would be repressed emotions from him and emotional unfulfillment for me!


How to facilitate the best outcomes – Wheel: Just let the Universe handle this destiny, fate, etc

Nothing I can do about it - that's a relief, but it makes me feel a little helpless! I suppose the only way is up though (I hope) whether it's me on my own or both of us!

I don't think I've painted the best picture of him, but honestly I think he's worth a try. I have enough emotional stability for both of us.

Thank you very much for you help! If there's anything I can do in return, let me know. I am a beginner at tarot but I would gladly have a go if you wanted me to.


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