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calliope23
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posted April 06, 2013 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey Crys, Cherful, and SagittariusRising! I'll get started on your readings.

SagRising--I'm completely unfamiliar with asteroid astrology, so I can't really speak to any of those placements. I don't want to give you a half-assed and poorly researched response to these, so I apologize for not being able to include a majority of those. I know about the traditional "love" asteroids--Juno, Eros, Psych--and emotional stuff--Lilith--but that's it. I want to learn about Part of Fortune so I'll include that in your reading

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I'm trying to further hone my chart reading skills and also learn more about placements/aspects and their influence. I've recently read a bunch of my friends' charts, so I want to keep my momentum going!

***I do need to say that I am relatively new to astrology, so I only read NATAL charts. I can't get crazy on your chart the way people like Lotis White, RAS, and Doux Reve can, but I've learned a lot from these gals so I can definitely apply some of what they've pushed me to research into your reading.***

First three people to post your chart: give me some idea of the aspects/placement or areas in your life you're most interested in knowing about. I'll try to address those as best as I can, and I'll also throw in some of my own observations. Give me a day or two to get back to you once you've posted your chart.

The catch: When you see the analysis, I'd love feedback on what resonates with you or if something just doesn't seem to fit at all. Please only post a chart if you're willing to respond to what I have to share This will help me as much as I hope to help you!

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posted April 06, 2013 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello here is mine

Anything regarding love sector

Thank you so much

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cherful24
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posted April 06, 2013 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd love one!!!
I'd say in terms of love/marriage-relationships is whats most important, and then career/money.

I will give feedback!
Thanks!

I'll post my chart

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Originally posted by calliope23:
I'm trying to further hone my chart reading skills and also learn more about placements/aspects and their influence. I've recently read a bunch of my friends' charts, so I want to keep my momentum going!

***I do need to say that I am relatively new to astrology, so I only read NATAL charts. I can't get crazy on your chart the way people like Lotis White, RAS, and Doux Reve can, but I've learned a lot from these gals so I can definitely apply some of what they've pushed me to research into your reading.***

First three people to post your chart: give me some idea of the aspects/placement or areas in your life you're most interested in knowing about. I'll try to address those as best as I can, and I'll also throw in some of my own observations. Give me a day or two to get back to you once you've posted your chart (my 9H Merc conj. Saturn makes me a perfectionist when it comes to sharing information through writing, haha).

The catch: When you see the analysis, I'd love feedback on what resonates with you or if something just doesn't seem to fit at all. Please only post a chart if you're willing to respond to what I have to share This will help me as much as I hope to help you!


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posted April 06, 2013 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SagittariusRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you do mine as well?

I posted in another thread, I wanted to know if I could have a lucrative career in writing. I don't need to be Stephen King/J.K. Rowling rich, LOL, but published and able to earn a living from it.

I added some fixed stars and writer/career asteroids to mine.

I'll have a look in your thread to return the favor, as well. Thanks in advance!

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posted April 07, 2013 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Cherful24
I LOVE YOUR CHART!!!! This is going to be fun.

I’m not real big on “predictive” astrology in the sense of determining what age a marriage will occur, or how many children you’ll have, but this is something that most people are dying to know…so in the chance that you place weight on a chart predicting these things, here is what I see:

Marriage
The age of marriage can be determined in a plethora of ways, and off the bat I can tell you that a majority of them won’t work in determining your marriage age (Mars, Venus, Moon are all conjunct, as well as conjunct DSC. Your MC and IC are super far from all of these as well, so unless you got married between the ages of two and ten or plan to get married well past the age of 100, these aren’t going to work for you, haha). Your sun is the only planet here that has some viable indications for the age of marriage—sun is 35 degrees away from DSC, and you’re turning 35 this year!!! If you’re not already married, this could be a big year for you (that is, if you buy into these sorts of predictions)! Other possible ages are: 37 (Sun to Mars), 39 (Sun to Moon), and 45 (Sun to Venus). Because of your 7H stellium these ages are all relatively close, so it could potentially mean meeting someone around within this frame of time. You also have Juno in Capricorn, though, which could mean marriage as an institution is not particularly important to you, but I’ll get to that in a bit

Children
The number for potential (emphasis on potential here) children in the natal chart is shown in the number of applying aspects made to the ruler of your 5H, and then only the major aspects. You 5H ruler is Leo, and you have three applying aspects to your sun. Having the sun’s ruler on your 5H cusp and then your sun actually in 6H makes me think that you are probably very interested in having children or, if you’ve already had them, that your children/home life form a big part of your identity and daily place in the world. Any planet in the fifth house can determine the personality/gender of the first child, and you have Mercury in 5H. This suggests that your first child would have Mercurian qualities, so either Gemini or Virgo influences. Sometimes the gender of the child can be predicted based on the ruling planet’s elemental sign, but because Mercury rules both Virgo and Gemini and one is masculine (Gemini is air) and one is feminine (Virgo is earth), I can’t tell you which it might be. Do you have kids yet? The other thing that having Mercury in 5H could indicate is twins—especially given that the gender is indeterminate since there are two opposing genders in the elemental signs of Mercury.

Okay…on to the fun stuff! Your marriage and/or your partner! I learned most of what I am about to share from Lotis White, so big shout out to her masterful technique

We can look at your 5H, 7H, 8H and Juno (and 6H to a lesser extent…but for you I actually think it’s quite prominent) to dive deeper into the sort of partner that you’re drawn to and need in order to attain balance (and your Libra stellium definitely indicates a deep desire for balance). I personally think of partners we go after as people who display characteristics of OUR OWN biggest points of pride in our personality or what we hope to be like, so using these houses to look at what we’re attracted to can also tell us a lot about what we like most about ourselves or what characteristics we aspire to exude. Let me just say that when I looked at your chart I was IMMEDIATELY struck by the concentration of your planets in these three houses! Jupiter is your only outlier from these houses, but even that is in the house related to home life (Jupiter in 4H). My general response to this assemblage of planets in this part of the chart is much like I mentioned in the children section above—that you probably feel your home life/marriage/family and attitude toward these things defines you very strongly as a person.

Also, before we start, here is one other thing I noticed: All of your house cusps fall in the traditional houses they rule (Aries riser): do you have a pretty clear vision and ease with which how you approach and relate to the themes of each of the houses? I’ve always wondered whether Aries risers are better able to define and compartmentalize different areas of their lives, or if they feel they have a strong handle on them (since the houses aren’t strongly muddled with other energies).

Who you’re drawn to
5H Your 5H is the house of “pleasure” or things we find fun, and usually represents someone that immediately romantically lights our fire—like an infatuation, or the sort of person who exhibits the characteristics you would associate with themes of a “crush” (sparks, excitement, heart flutters, etc.). As Lotis put it, this house represents the “apple of our eye.” You have Leo on 5H cusp, and your sun is in 6H, traditionally ruled by Virgo. Interestingly enough you already have Mercury (Virgo ruler) in 5H, so people who set your attraction radar zinging probably display strong Virgo qualities with Leo in there as well. I’d say someone who is confident about, and openly shares, his or her personal approach to life/their past romantic experiences draws you in. Actually, this is fascinating because the way that women psychologically connect with others (whether male or female) is based in sharing intimate features of our lives such as these two things. When women share personal stories or values, we feel strongly connected to that person and, inversely, to the people who share these things with us, as this mutual exchange inherently establishes a firm basis of trust that women crave. Mercury sextiles your three love/emotion planets (Moon, Venus, Mars), so it makes sense that people with whom you share an ease of intimate conversation are highly appealing to you…and furthermore (!) along the lines of what I was saying about liking in a partner what we pride in ourselves, sextiles literally exemplify overt talents that people appreciate in themselves. Everything just seems to make such awesome sense…I told you I loved your chart

6H isn’t necessarily a “love/relationship” house in the traditional sense, but since your sun and vertex are in here, I thought I would include it. This might get sort of redundant to your 5H since Merc/Virgo influence is also present here, so I’ll speak less to the sign influence and more to the house influence. The 6H has to do with our daily life roles, and your Sun being here means self-development is deeply based in the work you perform and service to others. Vertex being here makes me think that your voluntary duty and obligation to your partner is a big part of your self-worth, and also that love is something that you desperately desire because you are able to devote yourself to and care for others, and so you want/expect the same in return. A partner for whom you can care for in every sense of the word—emotionally, physically, perhaps monetarily—is extremely important to you, and vice-versa. This actually a nice segue to Juno…

Juno is like our “make it or break it” signification in a romantic partner. I actually also have Juno in Cap like you. Commitment and "stability" are both really big deals for the native in relationships, in two ways: 1) Juno in Cap won't enter into romantic relationships easily or lightly, and they don’t waste time with people they don’t see as a potential “fit”…so you might usually be single and not super interested in dating around. You have Merc in 5H Leo though, so you are probably actually really social and outgoing, so I don’t doubt that you have a dearth of people who would love to take you out! 2) I personally have a very strong desire for a guy I know will be able to "protect" me, in the sense of being reliable, steady, and dependable (Cap qualities), and your Juno along with 6H vertex placement and sun themes might also make you feel the same. Basically, though, what you NEED in a partner is reliability and structure, and if you don’t feel someone can offer you that, you won’t pursue or be happy in the relationship. I also mentioned something earlier about marriage and Juno for you…I once found this quote online about Capricorn Juno, and it really resonated with me:
"Not surprisingly, many Juno in Capricorn natives eventually choose to forgo marriage all together, feeling it just isn't ‘for them.’ They will readily do this before they will settling for anything less than what they need."

Your chart obviously indicates a strong desire and interest in love and the home and romantic-type partnerships, but it might not mean that you necessarily feel compelled to get “married.” I’m a little liberal about this, but for me “marriage” is simply just a legal union, and not at all about love/romance. I would much rather find the love of my life rather than get “married,” but that’s just my personal belief, so of course interpret your Juno as you see fit

7H In just looking at your chart, I predict that you actually “feel” your 7H the most, and these are the sorts of qualities you most like in a partner. First of all, it’s your DSC house, and this house is the traditional ruler of “legal” contracts and partnerships—i.e., the essence of a “marriage” and thus the marital partner. You also have a stellium involving tight ties between three of your love planets here along with Uranus, and then also Mars conjuncting Pluto. Your 7H cusp is in Libra, so anyone with Libra qualities should be attractive to you, and given the Pluto-Mars conj. and Scorpio falling in the last majority of your 7H, Scorpio is probably also very magnetic for you. Mars and Moon in Libra tends to waver when it comes to decision-making, and this placement indicates to me that you might rely on your romantic partner’s guidance or affirmation in decision-making. Mars conjunct Pluto denotes your are interested in a partner who will somehow “transform” you or your life, and a person who could help give you the direction your Libra Mars needs would definitely “transform” your daily experience. Venus at home in Libra here, so you strongly desire a partner with whom you can completely merge. Uranus (Aquarius and traditional 11H of friendships/social organizations ruler) also in 7H doubly suggests the need for a partner who is a “best friend,” someone who is more than just a piece in the whole of your parts—your partner needs to be the piece that is necessary to complete your whole. Be careful, though, not to expect your partner to be a “mind reader.” With your Moon and Mars in indecisive Libra, you’ll probably expect a partner to just “get” you emotionally (the fall of all women in general, haha) or to magically know what it is you want and need, but you need to work on being assertive about your emotional needs and letting him or her know unequivocally what you want/need from him/her.

8H Hmm. I personally don’t think you’re going to connect with the energy going on in here as far as a partner goes because there isn’t a whole lot about this house that makes sense with the rest of your chart. But I’m not the boss of you, so you tell me what you think! 8H cusp is Scorpio, Pluto in Libra. I’ve already gone over the Libra/Scorpio stuff, but you also have Neptune in Sag here. Do you connect with Sag energy at all? I was reading a thread in Astrology 2.0 in which a lot of people agreed that Neptune should be thought of as a co-ruler to Sagittarius, so this influence might be somewhat strong (but still weak as far as attraction to Sags goes I think). Your Neptune squares Jupiter (Sag’s ruler), and your Jupiter actually only has hard aspects in your chart…so my initial reaction is you don’t really mesh well with Sag energy. Looking at your Pisces (Neptune rules Pisces) placements will help here, and you have Pisces on 11H. Okay so maybe this makes sense if Neptune is accounted for rather than the sign it’s in. Okay so 8H is obviously the house of sex/intimacy. Having it in Scorpio probably makes you interested in intimacy that is deep and sensual, and the influence of the Neptune connection probably reinforces your need for a sexual partner who you are share a deep friendship/level of trust with. Neptune also semisextiles Uranus and your Sun, Uranus being the ruler of 11H (friendship) and sun obviously being yourself. That ties into some of the other things I’ve said about your partner needing to also be a friend…..but I just don’t see anything in the 8H as deeply as appealing to you as some of your other placements.

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posted April 07, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, thanks very much! It's all very good!!!

Ok, lets see if I answer everything!

Marriage is VERY important to me. Not so much before, but it is now. I am not with anyone now, so I most likely wont marry at 35. Maybe I will meet him when I'm 35. I do have Sat. transiting my 7th now and for the next 2 yrs so, I don't think marriage will happen at 37 either.

I always date Virgos! I love them, probably b/c they are like me. I have dated Leos but the only one I could stand was a leo Virgo, right on Aug 22 and he had more Virgo qualities to him. I hate people acting out to be the center of attention! But I do need someone who is a bit outgoing.

I am more of loner. I do have a go-getter personality, but I have always been used by men and by friends, so I have chosen to just keep to myself. When I do date and I get to know them, then yes, I give my all to them.

Thank you! But no, I don't have men lining up who want to be with me. Only men who are attracted to me...which I don't care to give them me ( so, yes ur right about that, that I wont waste my time if I dont think "its" there)

I never wanted children and I don't want to work with them. However, as I am 34 and I see my ex's having kids, it's making me want to have one. So, I don't really know if the want is kicking in or if I feel like I am falling behind my peers. I am very good with Children, though. If I have a stable and reliable partner, then I could see that I would want to create a family. So that part about stable relationships is very true, of course I've never had that before so, it's a big desire now. The intimacy part is also true and I do need someone who is also a friend ( who wont judge me) or use me. Your right about the 8th house...I don't care about that at all. My focus is always on the 7th house. If I could have been so lucky to of had great relationships in my life, then yes, my time would be devoted to them and better him and me. When I do get married, my focus would be on making him, me, and kids all happy!!

I am only happy with my life when I have someone.

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posted April 07, 2013 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 07, 2013 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2013 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wowww I missed this

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calliope23
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posted April 07, 2013 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CHERFUL: not sure why the forum kept deleting the rest of the post, but here is the last half of what I had written. Sorry about that
**note that I had Pisces on wrong house in original and 8H changed a little bit**

8H Hmm. I personally don’t think you’re going to connect with the energy going on in here as far as a partner goes because there isn’t a whole lot about this house that makes sense with the rest of your chart. But I’m not the boss of you, so you tell me what you think! 8H cusp is Scorpio, Pluto in Libra. I’ve already gone over the Libra/Scorpio stuff, but you also have Neptune in Sag here. Do you connect with Sag energy at all? I was reading a thread in Astrology 2.0 in which a lot of people agreed that Neptune should be thought of as a co-ruler to Sagittarius, so this influence might be somewhat strong (but still weak as far as attraction to Sags goes I think). Your Neptune squares Jupiter (Sag’s ruler), and your Jupiter actually only has hard aspects in your chart…so my initial reaction is you don’t really mesh well with Sag energy. Looking at your Pisces (Neptune rules Pisces) placements will help here, and you have Pisces on 12H. Maybe this makes sense if Neptune is accounted for rather than the sign it’s in. Okay so 8H is obviously the house of sex/intimacy. Having it in Scorpio probably makes you interested in intimacy that is deep and sensual, and the influence of the Neptune connection probably reinforces your need for for sex that is otherworldly/mysterious/hidden/taboo....I almost want to say this might indicate a tendency toward having affairs? Or affair-like flings/romances? Something with secrecy. Maybe you're not open about your sex life? Having Neptune in Sag would make you concerned with sexual ethics/morality though, and Moon in Libra would make you weigh emotional options, so IF AN AFFAIR DID OCCUR, you would leave it in the end or maybe before anything even got sexual...and Scorpio Pluto=you learn from it. Neptune also semisextiles Uranus and your Sun, Uranus being the ruler of 11H (friendship) and sun obviously being yourself. That ties into some of the other things I’ve said about your partner needing to also be a friend…..but I just don’t see anything in the 8H as deeply as appealing to you as some of your other placements.

All that being said, you also have some MASSSIVE square energy coming from Jupiter 4H to Moon, Mars, and Venus (and Chiron). Square Venus is actually a good square to me, because it means you are warmhearted, generous, and magnanimous (which we have already seen in some of your other placements) and totally loathe insincerity. Saturn conjunct your sun makes you cautious and careful by nature, so even though I think a lot of your placements indicate a deep desire for love and connection, you are probably good at weeding out the losers…but equally as good at being quick to forgive and forget with those who slip through the cracks and that you become attached to. Do you hold onto relationships that might be otherwise unhealthy because you do truly see the best in people? Jupiter square Moon makes you super protective of others, and so you might be able to SEE the weaknesses in partners, but you’re unable to let go because you feel like you can do a better job of protecting them from themselves/others than if they were on their own. Jupiter is also associated with luck, and having all those squares to your “love” planets might indicate not necessarily BAD, but maybe not the best luck in love…which might be elucidated by Jupiter square to Chiron.

I actually kind of hate making Chiron this deep-seated “wound” we can’t rid ourselves of, because that’s not necessarily what it’s about. To me, Chiron shows us how to go about healing or what we should focus on healing to get over our feelings of inadequacy, but first we need to know what to cure….soooo let’s make Chiron the bad guy for a second: Do you feel like you have been neglected and unfulfilled as far as material goods/security? That you haven’t felt “heard” (Taurus ruling “voice”)? Or maybe denied in love (family or romantic)…like maybe it just hasn’t been a prominent part of your life and you feel that it is completely unfair? Or maybe romantic love has come to you, but has disappointed you? Maybe you have felt let down by your ideas and hopes for reciprocal love/being taken care of because of your overly ambitious expectations of it? Being burned by those you love is another possibility (Jupiter rules expansion, so maybe putting your heart out on a limb and having it wounded [Chiron]). Anyway, if any of those are the case, the square from Jupiter is actually going to invigorate you to use your Chiron placement to heal either yourself or the lives of others. It also trines your Sun/Saturn 6H conjunction so this energy flows easily, and NN is in your 6H….are you a marriage counselor or some sort of family therapist by any chance? Or are you a social worker/work in welfare? Adoptions? Maybe you work with people with eating disorders? Your way to heal is going to be recognizing the amount of love there is in this world, and being able to make others feel it and to reach a point of welcoming self-love into their lives…I’m honestly going to be shocked if your job doesn’t center on this theme. You have a Venus/MC quintile too, and quintiles are intrinsic “gifts” we have. This specific quintile would indicate you are naturally gifted with Venus-related things (form, art, aesthetics, beauty, social grace, love) and that you’ll have an easy time in a career situated in those fields. I’d love to know how you think this quintile plays out. It might not even be related to your “job” (MC is more like career/destiny), so maybe you’re a singer, performer, artist or something like this with a desire to bring a positive message to the world. Hmm…possibly some sort of coach/instructor in the “arts” and using them to explore/heal pain.

Okay, sorry for the wild tangent! Please let me know about any part of this analysis that works or doesn’t work, or if there is anything that’s confusing and that you’d like more insight to!

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posted April 07, 2013 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Crys and SagRising: I've had a busy day, but I will start your charts tonight, promise!

Empress...if you don't mind waiting a few days for me to get to your chart, you should post it Same thing: let me know the area of your chart/themes you're interested in and I'll focus on those.

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posted April 07, 2013 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again very good! Yes, I dont think it's far that I have not had a great love story in my life yet. And when I thought I did, I found out he was actually marrying someone else. Yes, I see their weakness and have a hard time letting them go as I know they would get eaten alive. I try to help all those that I date. Yes, I forgive everyone too. Correct, I do not have the best luck in love

I went to school to be a school counselor, but did not like working with kids. I wish I could get my marriage license, but can't at this point. In my 20's I wanted to do some creative healing, but now I am just so burnt out on focusing my all on other people. I work in the medical/education field now and hope it will be a career.

I don't sing or dance or act. I do however, randomly get "extra" parts in movies.


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CHERFUL: not sure why the forum kept deleting the rest of the post, but here is the last half of what I had written. Sorry about that
**note that I had Pisces on wrong house in original and 8H changed a little bit**

[b]8H Hmm. I personally don’t think you’re going to connect with the energy going on in here as far as a partner goes because there isn’t a whole lot about this house that makes sense with the rest of your chart. But I’m not the boss of you, so you tell me what you think! 8H cusp is Scorpio, Pluto in Libra. I’ve already gone over the Libra/Scorpio stuff, but you also have Neptune in Sag here. Do you connect with Sag energy at all? I was reading a thread in Astrology 2.0 in which a lot of people agreed that Neptune should be thought of as a co-ruler to Sagittarius, so this influence might be somewhat strong (but still weak as far as attraction to Sags goes I think). Your Neptune squares Jupiter (Sag’s ruler), and your Jupiter actually only has hard aspects in your chart…so my initial reaction is you don’t really mesh well with Sag energy. Looking at your Pisces (Neptune rules Pisces) placements will help here, and you have Pisces on 12H. Maybe this makes sense if Neptune is accounted for rather than the sign it’s in. Okay so 8H is obviously the house of sex/intimacy. Having it in Scorpio probably makes you interested in intimacy that is deep and sensual, and the influence of the Neptune connection probably reinforces your need for for sex that is otherworldly/mysterious/hidden/taboo....I almost want to say this might indicate a tendency toward having affairs? Or affair-like flings/romances? Something with secrecy. Maybe you're not open about your sex life? Having Neptune in Sag would make you concerned with sexual ethics/morality though, and Moon in Libra would make you weigh emotional options, so IF AN AFFAIR DID OCCUR, you would leave it in the end or maybe before anything even got sexual...and Scorpio Pluto=you learn from it. Neptune also semisextiles Uranus and your Sun, Uranus being the ruler of 11H (friendship) and sun obviously being yourself. That ties into some of the other things I’ve said about your partner needing to also be a friend…..but I just don’t see anything in the 8H as deeply as appealing to you as some of your other placements.

All that being said, you also have some MASSSIVE square energy coming from Jupiter 4H to Moon, Mars, and Venus (and Chiron). Square Venus is actually a good square to me, because it means you are warmhearted, generous, and magnanimous (which we have already seen in some of your other placements) and totally loathe insincerity. Saturn conjunct your sun makes you cautious and careful by nature, so even though I think a lot of your placements indicate a deep desire for love and connection, you are probably good at weeding out the losers…but equally as good at being quick to forgive and forget with those who slip through the cracks and that you become attached to. Do you hold onto relationships that might be otherwise unhealthy because you do truly see the best in people? Jupiter square Moon makes you super protective of others, and so you might be able to SEE the weaknesses in partners, but you’re unable to let go because you feel like you can do a better job of protecting them from themselves/others than if they were on their own. Jupiter is also associated with luck, and having all those squares to your “love” planets might indicate not necessarily BAD, but maybe not the best luck in love…which might be elucidated by Jupiter square to Chiron.

I actually kind of hate making Chiron this deep-seated “wound” we can’t rid ourselves of, because that’s not necessarily what it’s about. To me, Chiron shows us how to go about healing or what we should focus on healing to get over our feelings of inadequacy, but first we need to know what to cure….soooo let’s make Chiron the bad guy for a second: Do you feel like you have been neglected and unfulfilled as far as material goods/security? That you haven’t felt “heard” (Taurus ruling “voice”)? Or maybe denied in love (family or romantic)…like maybe it just hasn’t been a prominent part of your life and you feel that it is completely unfair? Or maybe romantic love has come to you, but has disappointed you? Maybe you have felt let down by your ideas and hopes for reciprocal love/being taken care of because of your overly ambitious expectations of it? Being burned by those you love is another possibility (Jupiter rules expansion, so maybe putting your heart out on a limb and having it wounded [Chiron]). Anyway, if any of those are the case, the square from Jupiter is actually going to invigorate you to use your Chiron placement to heal either yourself or the lives of others. It also trines your Sun/Saturn 6H conjunction so this energy flows easily, and NN is in your 6H….are you a marriage counselor or some sort of family therapist by any chance? Or are you a social worker/work in welfare? Adoptions? Maybe you work with people with eating disorders? Your way to heal is going to be recognizing the amount of love there is in this world, and being able to make others feel it and to reach a point of welcoming self-love into their lives…I’m honestly going to be shocked if your job doesn’t center on this theme. You have a Venus/MC quintile too, and quintiles are intrinsic “gifts” we have. This specific quintile would indicate you are naturally gifted with Venus-related things (form, art, aesthetics, beauty, social grace, love) and that you’ll have an easy time in a career situated in those fields. I’d love to know how you think this quintile plays out. It might not even be related to your “job” (MC is more like career/destiny), so maybe you’re a singer, performer, artist or something like this with a desire to bring a positive message to the world. Hmm…possibly some sort of coach/instructor in the “arts” and using them to explore/heal pain.

Okay, sorry for the wild tangent! Please let me know about any part of this analysis that works or doesn’t work, or if there is anything that’s confusing and that you’d like more insight to!

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I hate I missed this. @ calliope23 if you have time later on this week I would live to have you look at my natal chart

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I am so bummed I missed your offer Calliope. I hope you will be offering again soon Pixie

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noooooooooooo, i missed it!!!

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Great work so far, Calliope!

Don't worry, there's no rush here (but I'm excited to read mine!)

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posted April 08, 2013 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SagittariusRising

I’m so excited to look at your chart! I’m a huge lit nerd, so learning about and searching for aspects related to writing and literature is going to be fun!

All right, first and foremost: I think your sun, rising, and Mercury are going to be important to look at initially, just to see how you are as a communicator. Venus will be important too, for the artistic aspect of things. You have Cancer sun, Sag rising, and Mercury also in Cancer (basically on top of your sun!!)…Venus in Cancer also, conjunct Sun/Merc.

Sag Rising I think having Sag rising is actually really important for a career in writing, because as much as our rising sign is the “mask we wear” or the way others perceive us, a career in which you are being “received” (writing, broadcasting, acting, politics, etc.) by the public is going to rely heavily on the way others react to you. For a writer, in particular, I think Sag rising is a BEAUTIFUL placement to have. I have a Sag sun myself and a huge Sag stellium in 10H (as I think you saw in another thread I started), so I am going to try to be as objective as possible about Sag placements (even though I really love them, haha). Sag risers are people who are visionaries—they think big, they dream big, and they want to experience everything. Even though such high expectations and aspirations can easily lead them into a sort of “blind” forge forward, or to can lead the native astray from a “grounded” reality, in the context of “literature” this is EXACTLY what humans want—we want to get lost in stories, to be taken somewhere completely different than typical, everyday realities. You mentioned JK Rowling—the Harry Potter series is a HUGE success for this very reason. Rowling is also a Sag sun if I’m not mistaken. Anyway, Sag is heavily connected to humanity, philosophy, and higher education, so I would imagine (without first looking at your other placements) that you come across as someone highly intelligent—another big thing we need from writers. No one wants to read a poorly thought-out or written book. You also have Uranus in Sag, conjunct your ASC. Uranus is already unconventional, but in Sag, Uranus would manifest as an uncanny intuition with a very deep interest in theory, emerging philosophy, the occult…basically “new” and “different” spins on anything. Uranus *tightly* conjuncts your ASC, so along with all I’ve said about your Sag rising characteristics, I have a feeling you also exude an original quirkiness and revolutionary way of thought that is highly appealing to people because it’s so extraordinary—you don’t think like most people, and that’s incredibly intriguing. Have you ever read any Miranda July? These placements remind me of the themes/topics she often writes about in her work. Of course, being “different” can often make others respond negatively to us. Uranus also trines your Aries moon, so a sort of “impulsive” or “independent” emotional approach to situations and a sense of “oddness” in your emotional connection to others is probably present—having the moon’s energy so heavily intertwined with an unconventional Uranus thought process and your innovative spirit might make people think, “What the hell is up with this chick?!” Normally I would say that Sag Uranus close to the ASC and trine Aries moon would make you the type of person people immediately love or hate, but having Uranus in 12H might mitigate the “out-there/revolutionary” energy of it and make you better received than if this were a full-blown series of aspects. On another hand, I think this pioneer vision and spirit probably do emanate freely from you, and again—super important for the ideas you would bring to your written work.

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Actually, now that I think of it, I remember reading an article some time ago that said prominent moons were extremely typical in the natal charts of writers. Aries moon is prominent in and of itself, because Mars energy (I would argue) is very similar, and yet also opposite to that of the Moon’s. Aries is impulsive and brash, and the moon obviously controls the ebb and flow of things—so I think Mars’ rapid ability to move from a state of relative calm to immediate impetuousness is akin to the moon’s feminine rise and fall of emotion...but Mars is the typical “masculine” form of energy in astrology, so it’s also intrinsically contradictory to the moon’s femininity. The Uranus trine here also makes your moon inherently “atypical,” and oh my goodness!!! You have a moon quintile to Mercury!!! I’m going to do quintiles in their own section, but damn girl: I’ve barely started reading your chart, and I already want to say, “Yes. You unquestionably have the chart of a writer!” Your only other prominent moon aspect is a square to Jupiter. I think this might lend more to an overwhelmingly ability to accept others, even when they have wronged you—the chart I read before yours also had this square, and I interpreted it for her as being a little *too* forgiving with her emotions—but in reference to writing (added to the Aries energy of moon), I see this as exhibiting the sort of emotional “ups and down” that we typically associate with creative geniuses. That is, Jupiter touching the moon might make you become emotionally invested in something unrealistic, or emotionally tied to far-reaching/fantastical thoughts (Sag’s blind optimism + Aries’ ardent stimulation would make you strive for the impractical), and the moon would put this expansiveness into a state of flux—basically big emotional highs, and equally as big emotional lows/disappointments. Plenty of people draw huge inspiration from these sorts of experiences though (hello Hemingway, haha), and I don’t think it’s a bad placement for an artist. I think it almost defines the “artist,” at least in a very stereotypical way. It’s a tough aspect to deal with as a human being, sure, but I don’t think it’s bad if you view it as holding potential for being your own inner “muse.” The last prominent feature of your moon is that it’s at home in the 4H. I wonder if you even feel this though, given all that energetic disparity I outlined above (I’ve already pointed out Aries’ masculine tinge in moon’s energy, but Sag/Aqua are also a masculine signs, so the Uranus trine further imbues your moon with more masculine energy)? Because your moon/emotional stability seems to have a lot of in-built conflict, I almost see the 4H placement as a divine little gift that allows you to be at peace with your propensity for impulse and “up and downs” as a natural/normal part of your life, and not something that has been unfairly handed to you. One more thing: have you ever looked at a Pullen chart to see the influence of your moon in your chart? A lot of people don't think Pullen charts are SUPER accurate, but it could give a good ballpark figure on the prominence of your moon in comparison to everything else in your chart. I'd love to know what percentage it gets if you generate the report

Sun and Mercury (and Venus) I love CafeAstrology’s depiction of the Sun conjunct Mercury as the “ego and mind being aligned.” I really envy people with this placement, and yours in particular you since they’re both in Cancer: I would love to know what it feels like to be so readily in-tune with your emotions. Cancer is a sign linked with memory, and as a writer I have a feeling your Sun and Mercury here really allow you to draw on past experiences and the emotions you felt as great inspiration for your work. Do you write memoirs? Or draw on your own life experiences to produce “creative nonfiction”? If not, you should try toying with those genres/concepts. I also bet you’re very drawn to “ambient” writing: setting up the mood and “feel” of a scene, using a lot of imagery and sensory details/cadent language. Or wait….maybe you’re a poet? With Venus also touching your Cancer Merc, I could see you being really fantastic at poetry. Cancer Mercury is another highly intuitive placement, just like Uranus in Sag, and is great in terms of writing because it will make you understand how to emotionally satiate your audience. Venus is the planet connected with the “arts,” and having it conjunct your Sun (ego) and Mercury (communication) just flat out seems like a stellium indicative of an artist. Having Venus so closely tied to your self/ego (Sun) is extraordinary to me given that you have Libra MC (Venus rules Libra). MC is your career/destiny, and Libra MC is often associated with an outward/socially-involved consciousnesses. Social structure, organization, values, and institutions are all themes tied to Libra, and having Pluto in your MC makes me think that your career/destiny is to somehow transform, redefine, or deconstruct these institutions. Obviously a writer would be able to reach a mass audience and so your literature may itself change society in some way, or you may literally write about ways to reconfigure social organization. I have a feeling you are a creative writer though, and not an anthropologist or social philosophy-oriented author. I think you’re more concerned with human emotion, emotional experience, and the way humans cope, just given all those Cancer placements. Your Cancer stellium also trines Saturn and Pluto. Transformative vision and added depth/awareness of how to balance out issues within the self/emotion/love/intellect probably comes naturally to you, and Saturn also acts to elevate our thoughts/communication and make each more clear/realistic when it touches Mercury in a positive way.

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Quintiles You have four quintiles in the chart you posted, but two of them involve asteroids and unfortunately I don’t know anything about asteroids If you’re interested in knowing what “gifts” those two quintiles present you with, you might post them in the asteroid astrology forum, or Google them to find out more. Sun-Moon, Moon-Mercury are two quintiles I recognize and can speak to….and going back to a prominent moon in a writer’s chart, it’s phenomenal that both your “creative gifts” involve your moon. Quintiles between personal planets are always super powerful as well. Your sun/moon quintile gives you the gift of your core being or energy being fed by your emotions. Even though quintiles are harmonious aspects, the sun and moon are just such disparate energies that I can’t help but to think this makes you restless or continually on the lookout for something that will make you feel (moon) fully alive (sun). This tension between your mood and your ego can be used together to produce any sort of creative product, and I imagine you’re good at being self-reflective in order to generate creativity. I think as a writer it’s highly important to be able to find inspiration from within, so this quintile definitely gives you the ability to continually come up with and draw inspiration from your own emotional experience. Your moon quintile Mercury is a lot more straightforward: it makes you gifted at communicating your emotions, haha. Again, this is another indication of being a great poet, and several other aspects have popped up in your chart that suggest the same. I mentioned earlier that I thought you were a creative writer, but you might actually be unexpectedly gifted at writing self-help books (that would be popular, and not cliché, because of your quirky insight) now that I’m starting to draw upon themes of all the aspects I’ve delineated. Your part of fortune is also in 9H, and so according to a quick Google search, “Happiness will come from a search for truth and the deep study of such subjects as sociology, psychology, religion and metaphysical law.” Also, again: I think you should read some Miranda July if you haven’t. She really reaches down to the core of human experience in the most unconventional way, that just leaves you feeling like she totally summed you up in a story that was nowhere even near an experience you might ever have. If I’ve read your chart correctly, I feel like her work would resonate with you

I’m getting tired, so I apologize if you think things got sort of confusing toward the end. I think your natal chart really does indicate a bright future for you as a writer, and please let me know if you have questions or need clarification or want me to take a look at anything else!

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posted April 08, 2013 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Calliope, this is awesome!

If you are in the mood of offering more natal chart readings,I'd love to be included

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Thanks Calliope . Do you have an email where I could reach you? I can trade a 3 card Tarot reading in return or a playing cards reading. Thanks this is very generous of you

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Also, Crys and SagRising: I've had a busy day, but I will start your charts tonight, promise!

Empress...if you don't mind waiting a few days for me to get to your chart, you should post it Same thing: let me know the area of your chart/themes you're interested in and I'll focus on those.


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Hi, can't wait to read mine!

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Crys: starting on your reading right now! Sorry it's taken a while...I know you were the first to post your chart, so thanks so much for being patient. If your reading is not up tonight, it will DEFINITELY be up tomorrow.

Empress:you can e-mail me your I look forward to reading it! Also, let me know when you see this so I can remove my email, pretty please?

To all others interested: thank you so much for the overwhelming appreciation of my readings! It makes me feel good to know people think what I'm doing is useful and cool I'll definitely be offering again soon, so keep an eye out!

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Calliope wow, brilliant stuff. You should do readings for a living, or to supplement your income! That Pisces rising gives you that natural empathy and all your Sag makes you so positive and encouraging. Thank you so much. And w00t! to you being a lit nerd!

I do "specialize" in creative writing; poetry I can do, but I don't all that often. I'm also good at essay writing, especially on the subject of moi . That part of your reading was totally accurate! And this part nearly had me out of my chair:

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Sag risers are people who are visionaries—they think big, they dream big, and they want to experience everything. Even though such high expectations and aspirations can easily lead them into a sort of “blind” forge forward, or to can lead the native astray from a “grounded” reality, in the context of “literature” this is EXACTLY what humans want—we want to get lost in stories, to be taken somewhere completely different than typical, everyday realities.[/B]

Beautifully said.

My Cancer stellium trining Pluto and Uranus/ASC was really spot on, also. Not to be self-aggrandizing, but I do want to change the way people think and feel with my fiction--change/challenge people's perspectives and really dig in deep. The Quintile stuff I hadn't really given a MAJOR amount of weight to, so thank you for that. I'm really grateful you were able to do this for us. Best chart reading, EVAR!

P.S. I wiki'd Miranda July...still getting my feet wet, though! Great suggestion.

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Hey Crys, Cherful, and SagittariusRising! I'll get started on your readings.

SagRising--I'm completely unfamiliar with asteroid astrology, so I can't really speak to any of those placements. I don't want to give you a half-assed and poorly researched response to these, so I apologize for not being able to include a majority of those. I know about the traditional "love" asteroids--Juno, Eros, Psych--and emotional stuff--Lilith--but that's it. I want to learn about Part of Fortune so I'll include that in your reading

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Hi,

It says closed? Does that mean you are unable to read another chart? :-)

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