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innereye
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posted April 18, 2013 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! I'm new...Here is the website to show the spread: http://lovedovetarot.com/2012/03/23/how-he-really-feels/
I need an objective interpretation of this particular tarot spread because I'm too emotionally involved and it's impossible for me to really understand particular aspects because I'm not skilled at reading things like "outside influences on his walk" and "what he's telling me, his story". I'm not singling those out, I need the entire spread considered and interpreted. I need a kind soul who is willing to help another hurt soul. I need honesty in this one. Thanks to all who are willing to give some energy on this!

Here's the spread, and please go to the above website for a visual if that helps:

1. His story – What he’s telling you: The World
2. What he’s really thinking: Page of Cups
3. How he feels about you deep down: Page of Pentacles
4. How he’s walking his talk: 4 of Swords
5. Outside influences on his walk: King of Pentacles
6. How he will be walking his talk within 6-8 weeks: Ace of Cups

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posted April 18, 2013 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi
Can you tell me what question you asked the cards exactly? And a little bit of background of the two of you?

Is it in regards to a break-up? (He told you he wants to move on, concentrate on 'other things' that are important to him? (study/work/etc.)? Or did he make promises and does it feel like he is not keeping them?

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posted April 18, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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innereye
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posted April 18, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He lives in Puerto Rico and I in Virginia. We saw each other 3 years ago and both of us have thought about each other non stop and have been trying, and failing, to see each other. Then he came for a visit in Feb. and said he'd be back every 2 months. He made no promises, but he always said he hadn't been with anyone in a while, and forgot to mention he is also a dating man. So a week ago he told me he is dating someone, but isn't walking away from me. He won't tell me what that means. So I'm confused about what he wants with me.

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Twirl
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posted April 18, 2013 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, thanks.

I'll give it a try for you. I'm not sure this is actually the spread you should use though, because it doesn't really go into depth that much. Or at least, not for me.

For what he is telling you: I would take that quite literal. "Does he say you are 'The World' for him? You are the one?" And let's not forget he is willing to 'travel the world for you'. Second, for what he is actually thinking: Page of Cups. That would add to what he is actually telling you. Yes. There is a lot of love and he does have 'a crush', but he would fear it might be an 'immature love' as well. Because 'Is life really a fairytale?' He wants to believe that, but 100% sure? Doubtful.

For how he actually feels about you: there is a definite interest and a fascination there and his feelings might still be 'growing' and 'developing' for you.

Then the 4 of swords: I would also take this literlly, because there is a distance. This is the card for communicating over the internet & over the phone. Second, if I apply it on the 'world card': I can imagine he is pointing out the distance quite often to you. Does he? So basically he would say: "yes, the feelings are strong, but we live really far away. Let's contemplate on that". (or something like that).

The King of Pentacles can mean more things (as all tyhe cards). But has he been working a lot? Trying to 'build' his empire, gaining material riches?
Second thought: I'm not sure how the visa arrangements are between the USA & Cuba? In that case this king can easily represent the country (King as the government & visa rules) which need to be obeyed.

In 6 to 8 weeks, the ace of cups: he is overflowing with love and he will tell you that. Draw a clarifier on this card if that is actually going to be in regards to you.

EDIT: As a side note I'd like to add that this is all about him. How about you? Do you want to be in a long distance relationship? How will this benefit you in the end. That would be good questions to ask yourself (with or without a tarot spread)

I hope this is of some help to you. Would love to hear how this resonates.

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innereye
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posted April 23, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twirl,

First, sorry it took me so long to reply! And thank you thank thank you for responding!

Your reading resonated on every card! You are truly gifted.
He hasn't said I'm "his world", but he has had a crush on me for so many years. When I took my trip to Puerto Rico 2 years ago is when he told me this. He's actually born and raised where I'm from and live currently, so we sort of knew each other before he moved to PR. When I posted that I was going to PR 2 years ago onto facebook, he reached out and said to visit him. So I did. And so began our friendship.

Can you go into more detail about the "life is a fairytale" part? I've been feeling like I've only been his crush, or fantasy girl, for the last 2 years and when he came to visit in Feb. I thought he would be back every 2 months and that we could have something. Now, after he told me he is dating someone in PR, and after I sent him a 3 page letter telling him everything I think and feel (and all of my confusion), he has only responded with "you in love with me?". And that was a week ago. He said, "of course we'll talk about it!". But that statement was made 2 weeks ago. And no talking has been done, only more questions and confusion.

The 4 of swords: he won't call me to tell me he is dating someone, it was in a text. Now he won't call me at all to talk about this confusion, or reply with answers to my questions using email, text, or phone. He hasn't mentioned the distance as being a problem. He just said he was in no way saying good-bye or walking away. But his silence is good-bye in my world.

The King of Pentacles: wow. you hit that one spot on too! He had just got a job, a job that has made him feel like he is going places (literally and as a career) and making strides in his improvement. He is a deckhand on one of the ferry's that goes from mainland PR to one of the other Islands (which he had been living on for the last 2 years). He was overjoyed when he got that job. He told me he felt like he could finally come back home for a visit because he feels a sense of pride in his accomplishment. So he works like 12 hours a day, then gets a month off (so he said). He has had troubling financial times in the past, but he feels like this job will give him security and solve all his problems.

Trouble is, he is a passionately talented musical artist and all his friends that tour and make music are here in Virginia and I think he should be making music rather than being a deckhand. I haven't said that to him! But rather I have told him to not forget to put energy into his music instead of just putting all his energy into his job, which can drain him and make him too lazy to make music. Really, I want him back here, but he has made the indication that the captain of the ferry might be grooming him to be a captain one day. All I could do is say "that's wonderful! but what about your music?". And Puerto Rico is a US territory, so we don't need passports to travel between the 2.

Can you tell me more about drawing a clarifier? Because he is dating a woman there and he indicated that he has known her, so the possibility does exist that he could choose her and forget me. And considering his long, drawn out, unbearable silence with me, I think he's already made his decision.

I want to be with him, regardless of where he is in "the world". I do love him, and don't have a need to fill in the spaces between us seeing each other with another man. How will it benefit me in the end? I'm not sure. I don't have real roots right now. I also don't have the money to put roots somewhere right now either.

You are a true blessing in my life for helping me and I hope you have so many blessings for yourself! My specialty is astrology, so if you have questions sometime related to that, please don't hesitate to ask! I would love to help!

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Twirl
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posted April 26, 2013 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Glad to hear the interpretation resonated with you

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Can you go into more detail about the "life is a fairytale" part? I've been feeling like I've only been his crush, or fantasy girl

This is exactly what he thinks. The page of cups is a ´crush card´, but what I meant with the fairytale part is that he most likely put it to that: ‘It’s a crush, I must move on (king of pentacles).
The 4 of swords in this case then refers to his communication style, in other words: no communication. He withdrew (for now).
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Can you tell me more about drawing a clarifier? Because he is dating a woman there and he indicated that he has known her, so the possibility does exist that he could choose her and forget me. And considering his long, drawn out, unbearable silence with me, I think he's already made his decision.

I’m not sure if he has already made his decision. This because of the two pages showing up (something can still develop into a real relationship). Also the page of pents shows me he is still contemplating on the idea: ‘Maybe we will, maybe we won’t, let’s see how everything else develops). It feels to me that he would like to keep his options open (which might suit him, but surely him dating someone else does not suit you. It’s a rather egotistical approach).
For a clarifier: either draw an extra card. Or even better: do a past-present-future spread to see how the relationship develops/will you be together, etc. (make sure to phrase the question as specific as possible).
I said that because he is dating someone else and seems to be working on ‘his place in the world’: someone by his side (who lives in the country) would suit this king of pents his ambitions. Being sensible and looking at establishing something in the future over (immature – pages) feelings (or so this king would think).
The ace of cups shows me two possibilities: either he will tell you he is very happy & in love (with the other girl) or it’s directed at you. I’m not sure. That’s why I recommend drawing extra cards for your relationship with him.

Hope this helps! And thanks for the astrology offer

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innereye
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posted May 23, 2013 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twirl...

So I finally drew a clarifier. I meditated on the Ace of Cups with this: "will he pour out his love for me or for her"...but apparantly he,s been in a relationship with this woman since April 10th. He told me just the day before, on the 9th, he was seeing someone, it may get serious, but he's not in love, not getting married, just dating,(dating is just dating, he said), has many women in his life, and wants to keep communication open. I can't get answers to what any of this means. And come to find out, she announced her relationship on facebook on the 10th. The day after he told me he didn't mean that he was walking away or saying goodbye to me. So he lied. Or she's been lied to. I haven't a clue what's going on. And I'm positive he was talking to me while talking to her longer than he says, and I'm sure she knows nothing about me. There is so much I am just now (literaly today) finding out about him and this other woman. Also, his life is changing in other ways. He has moved to Louisiana and then maybe moving to Texas for his job on the Ferry. He left Puerto Rico (where he met this woman, she lives in Miami, where he is right now with her).

Can you give me some insight into this situation using the clarifier? The clarifier is the Queen of Pentacles. Which is interesting to me because he is the King of Pentacles in this situation. But he's with another woman. Am I the queen, or is she? Love stinks sometimes!

That 4 of Swords is the lack of communication, but he repeatedly said he was "continuing dialogue" with me and "keeping open lines of communication" with other women. But there hasn't been communication. That stone man on the card is so him. I want to warm him up to me again and get him to communicate with me on the regular. How can I warm up a stone cold man who is with another woman?

If I'm asking too much of you, I'm sorry. You are just so insightful and right on time with your interpretation that I trust your opinion and illuminating thoughts on this.

Thanks so much, Twirl! I hope all is well in your part of the world!

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innereye
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posted May 23, 2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my astrological info, if it helps with the Queen of Pentacles clarifier:

Ascendent-Libra
Sun-Cancer
Moon-Virgo
Mercury-Gemini
Venus-Taurus
Mars-Taurus
Jupiter-Gemini
Saturn-Leo
Uranus-Scorpio
Neptune-Sag
Pluto-Libra

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Twirl
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posted May 24, 2013 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Inner Eye,

Just a quick response for now. I'm not liking the queen of pentacles as a clarifier. Mainly, because for me she almost always shows up as the other woman
For the timing this spread had 6 weeks that you would find out, right? So it should be soon that he will inform you on this. Normally I don't really take in the astrological correspondence, but looking at your sun sign and ASC I expect you would not show as this queen.
Unless you see yourself as a very earthy, orientated on career & stability type of woman, for whom security is a number 1 priority. But that's not the feel I got from you...

Just some advice & not from the cards, but if he doesn't contact you according to the time the spread gave (within 1,5-2 weeks from now?), contact him yourself and just demand some clarity so you can either move forward & open up to a potential other or wait for him.

Good luck! Do keep me updated!

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posted May 26, 2013 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely see myself as earthy...I'm the one who loves to be in the woods, hiking, camping, fishing...and I sit outside and get lost in the sounds and sites of nature completely when I'm needing to get out of my head. My inspiration is the natural world. I have only been focused on my career for a solid year, and I'm making awesome strides within my career. I'm a self-employed photo editor (I'm a photographer by trade). I haven't given much time to anything else! Except for my child. So basically, it's been about my career and my child and getting myself some roots and financial stability before a man, friends, going out, etc. If I'm not financially secure, then I don't go play. I've only been building my security for me and my son and I let the King of Pentacles in when I didn't let anyone else in. There have and are other men who want in, but none of them had it all like "he" does. I didn't have time, or really, didn't want to give up any of my precious career building, money building, time. I do spend wayyy more time on my career than I do having any fun. But when I do have fun...oh glory! I've always felt like my Virgo, and especially my Venus and Mars in Taurus made me a super earthy woman...and I'm a snake in Chinese astrology, which is akin to the Taurus in Western astrology.But I do have my watery, Cancer melancholy and the quick wit and glib tongue of the Gemini, very strong.

I will definitely keep you updated!

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Twirl
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posted May 26, 2013 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, okay
Just keep me updated.
For working freelance and inspiration you describe I would still put you more towards the queen of wands or maybe cups type (the pents would not be inclined to do that and focus on creating a more traditional home first). But that's just a feeling.
You shuffled the deck so ultimately the cards come up as how you see them. For me the queen of pents in this kind of situation often comes up for the other woman.
If you want you can put just plain past present future cards down for your relationship with this man. I'll help interpreted. Just ask a question like: 'how will the relationship with me and -name- evolve?'

Edit: did this queen of pents represent you in tarot before?

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innereye
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posted May 26, 2013 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally forgot to tell you this...After I drew the Queen of Pentacles, I drew another card, and I got the Queen of Wands. After that, I wasn't sure if drawing clarifiers was the right way. But what's interesting is that sunflowers have been a topic of convo between me and another girl friend who is going through a breakup, and we talked about how special the sunflower (and dandilion) is. And how we are going to print out sunflower pictures for us to place around our space to remind us to always turn towards the light. I was telling her we need to let light flood into our lives to drive out the sadness (darkness), and the sunflower and dandilion represent that for us.

So what does this mean when I get two Queens!

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Twirl
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posted May 26, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow, I do like the story of the sun flowers.
Again, I didn't draw your cards, but with what you tell me know I am inclined to think you are the Queen of wands. That would most likely be the card I would pick for you (based on talking on this thread).
I also still think that he is not quite being fair in still wanting to put you on hold (just in case). He wants to basically have his cake and eat it (is that the right expression?). Or he wants it all. That's what I think I wrote on the first interpretation, he likes to keep his options open.
Advice still remains, if you think this man is worth the wait, wait till the end of the timing for this spread and if you didn't hear from him, call him. (or just call him when you feel like it, because you want to know).What kind of woman is the other girl? Does she own property/has status by any chance?

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posted May 26, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innereye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi...

You nailed it when you said he wants to keep his options open...he was definitely having his cake and eating it too! He told me, after I exploded on him when he told me he was seeing someone and it might get serious, that he didn't have the intention of walking away from me, and he was not at all saying goodbye to me. Which indicated to me he wanted to keep me as an option!

This woman is in her mid 40's she is the owner of a hair salon in Miami, a home in Miami, and has a 3 year old daughter. She is a divorcee...within the last few years. D is 33, has no home, he lives and works on the ferry he works as a deckhand on, he can put all his belongings in one bag, no credit, no drivers license (no car, because of no license!). And I know, for a fact and through experience, that 3 year old children "annoy and bother" him. He told me this when he was staying with his family, where his sister lives and has a 3 year old boy. One day whenI went to pick him up, he was so glad I finally got there because his nephew was following him around for days...and he was over it!

And when he did have a few words to say about us, he did a lot of telling me about how unfair I had been about various things. He was/is in denial that he can't handle how unfair he's being and transferred that feeling to me by claiming I've been unfair because he "has to meet my expectations uncompromisingly". I haven't a clue what he means and he still hasn't explained.

I've gotten Empress and Priestess...but that's all I remember, for myself. I don't recall Queen of Pents coming up before.

I just finished my past-present-future spread for me and D. My question was distinct for each card, but the goal, for the future card, was "how will me and D relate in the future?". My question for the past card: what was D and I's past situation. For the present card: what is D and I's present situation.

Here are the cards:

Past--2 of Wands
Present--5 of Swords
Future--4 of Wands

On the topic of making a traditional home and the Queen of Pents...is that what she strives to attain? And what is a traditional home? To be a houswife with kids and a husband?

This is awesomely helpful and I've learned a great deal communicating with you!

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posted May 27, 2013 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

The things you wrote i.m.o. resonate with the new cards you pulled. This man is rather manipulating/feeding you thoughts and ideas (past). So I understand that you now write: "he did a lot of telling me about how unfair I had been about various things. He was/is in denial that he can't handle how unfair he's being and transferred that feeling to me by claiming I've been unfair because he "has to meet my expectations uncompromisingly". I haven't a clue what he means and he still hasn't explained.

And right now, it's taken a step further into the 5 of swords, which generally is just a rather unpleasant card. One person is dominating the other and forcing viewpoints on them. (i.m.o. he is, because he just goes along with what he wants tos do, leaving the other person feeling utterly hurt & 'beaten'.)

Now for the future, I do see a reconcilation of some sort. A re-opening in communication and friendship and you are most likely to just open the doors and let him in and be happy about it. It will feel like before again (feeling at home with each other, having fun, loving feelings), BUT this card is a fleety one and I have a feeling this will be quite temporary. Can be a short meeting, or maybe just a few phone conversations. Especially when I look at the past and present card.
You are advised to keep your eyes open and having a clear look at what is and was going on between you two. If you want it to move forward then speak your truth, also he should be willing to take responsibility for his part in this. If he keeps acting like in the past and putting the 'blame' on you, inequality will continue. Keep an eye if he is actually doing anything for you or that it is just an image you have of him? Does he act the way he speaks?

Further on the past card: I can see the juggling of interest there also in a 'yes, you are interesting' kind of way, BUT there is so much more out there I would also like to see and try out (him). So initial interest and attraction, yes, but not quite enough to start working towards the 2 of you becoming one in a relationship. It just never got to the next stage.

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I was talking about the queen of pents qualities overall (traditional, etc.) and I can give you probably 1000's of words for her description. But in this case I think firstly she shows as the other woman. But I am getting money and status and being secure is something she likes.
And I don't want to sound horrible, but is it possible that your love interest is also with her because it is 'easy'? She can provide money, a place to live, might introduce him to a better lifestyle, etc.
That's just a hunch. I'm not sure (and I am no psychic, lol), but I am a bit under that impresion. He comes of as calculating.

Let me know how this resonates. And please keep me updated. Hope it helped!

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