posted April 22, 2013 09:55 AM            

I`d LOVE to see your parallels/ contraparallels!

Uranus-Mars-conjunction in Scorpio on 8th house cusp of one person: Easily inflammable, hu?

posted April 22, 2013 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow! Exact Sun-Moon-conjunction - most likely on the contrascion of Venus of one person.

I`d LOVE to see your parallels/ contraparallels!

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posted April 22, 2013 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You need to go to the table with the data on astro.com. You could make a screenshot of that table, then save it on your computer, and upload it to photobucket and insert it in here.

Or you are just listing the declinations of each planets, so we can have a look ourselves.

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This?

posted April 22, 2013 11:08 AM            

If you put up the chart image, there is a link above it, if you click it you are being taken to the pdf with the data, including declinations.

For example, this is mine:

[URL=http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Darkdreamer_02/media/ceridecl_zpsb2e2d331.jpg.html] [ /URL]

To get it up here, you have got to do some steps though:

1. open the file (pdf)
2. make a snapshot
3. Save it to your image program (I usually copy the snapshot and paste it into my paint program, then save it under jpg.file.
4. Upload it to photobucket
5. coply and paste the link from photbucket (for the image) here

posted April 22, 2013 11:19 AM            

Positions for
Stephanie Positions for
Steve
see graphic see graphic
Sun Taurus 18° 57' in house 12 Capricorn 8° 27' in house 9
Moon Pisces 9° 38' in house 10 Taurus 18° 35' in house 1
Mercury Taurus 14° 15' in house 12 Capricorn 12° 45' in house 10
Venus Gemini 28° 26' in house 1 Aquarius 10° 25' in house 11
Mars Virgo 1° 34' in house 4 Scorpio 24° 4' in house 8
Jupiter Virgo 0° 30' in house 4 Aries 20° 9' in house 1
Saturn Virgo 20° 20' in house 5 Saggitarius 25° 18' in house 9
Uranus Scorpio 23° 45' in house 6 Saggitarius 27° 35' in house 9
Neptune Saggitarius 22° 8' in house 7 Capricorn 7° 44' in house 9
Pluto Libra 19° 37' in house 5 Scorpio 11° 57' in house 7
Ascendant Gemini 9° 31' in house 1 Aries 17° 1' in house 1
Medium Coeli Aquarius 14° 55' in house 10 Capricorn 9° 2' in house 10
North Node true Leo 25° 23' in house 4 Pisces 26° 54' in house 12
2 Cancer 1° 58' in house 2 Taurus 23° 37' in house 2
3 Cancer 22° 19' in house 3 Gemini 18° 4' in house 3
4 Leo 14° 55' in house 4 Cancer 9° 2' in house 4
5 Virgo 14° 21' in house 5 Leo 1° 29' in house 5
6 Libra 24° 53' in house 6 Virgo 1° 18' in house 6

posted April 22, 2013 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow! Exact Sun-Moon-conjunction - most likely on the contrascion of Venus of one person.

I`d LOVE to see your parallels/ contraparallels!

Uranus-Mars-conjunction in Scorpio on 8th house cusp of one person: Easily inflammable, hu?

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posted April 22, 2013 11:32 AM            

The BLUE Saturn/Pluto semi-sextile.
The RED Jupiter/Moon semi-sextile.

Add the Blue Sun conjunct the Red Moon.

And we get... ?

Well, I'm not verry good yet at *interpreting* things ..

but it *IS* powerful!

posted April 22, 2013 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Enlightened:
LOL. What do you mean? There appears to be INTENSE sexual tension between us, I cna say that....not aure which side it's coming from more so though,

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The sexual tension definitely could come from mars-Uranus-conjunction, esp. in Scorpio and 8th house.

It is even stronger because Mars is conjunct AND parallel Uranus.

posted April 22, 2013 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wait a moment, is his birthtime unknown?

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posted April 22, 2013 03:40 PM            

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LOL. What do you mean? There appears to be INTENSE sexual tension between us, I cna say that....not aure which side it's coming from more so though

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OK,
The INTENSE sexual tension is clearly coming from the *HELIO-longitudes*.
(or Ceridwen must have some other options)

We see this;

The BLUE one has a Juno/Venus sextile.
The RED one has a Venus/Mars quincunx.

Both aspects connected.

The BLUE Juno is the dragon point (meeting the verry small orb) of the RED Venus/Mars quincunx and so making it a YOD! A sexual yod, compelling overwhelming~!

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The BLUE Venus is conjunct the RED Mars, making it a double sexual YOD!

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An overall view;

Next to the sexual attraction between both I see the RED one more romantically attached to the BLUE than vice versa.

posted April 22, 2013 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
OK,
The INTENSE sexual tension is clearly coming from the *HELIO-longitudes*.
(or Ceridwen must have some other options)

We see this;

The BLUE one has a Juno/Venus sextile.
The RED one has a Venus/Mars quincunx.

Both aspects connected.

The BLUE Juno is the dragon point (meeting the verry small orb) of the RED Venus/Mars quincunx and so making it a YOD! A sexual yod, compelling overwhelming~!

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The BLUE Venus is conjunct the RED Mars, making it a double sexual YOD!

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An overall view;

Next to the sexual attraction between both I see the RED one more romantically attached to the BLUE than vice versa.

BLUE has pretty some power over RED also, a little too much for my taste.
I can only hope BLUE is mature enough to not cause any heartbreak for RED.

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posted April 22, 2013 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
RED = Tom, if that's what you mean.

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posted April 22, 2013 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I forgot to add; *To whatever extent that's possible for a guy*

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posted April 25, 2013 02:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Enlightened:
Bumping for indigo

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Gah! Thank you! I did not see it at all! Mea culpa. I'm so glad that Ceri's on here, though, already. I'd hate to've felt you were just waiting!

Okay, as you can imagine, there's only so much you can do with no birth-time. It doesn't allow for anything really in-depth. Surface sketches.

So, the Mars-Uranus will definitely be a powerful draw - very explosive chemistry. The kind for which you MUST have an outlet, or it becomes explosive aggression. Got to watch the potential for violence there. Not saying its earmarked - saying there's a LOT of energy bubbling up between those two planets.

Secondly, there's a theme between your Venus and Mars being quincunx. This is arguably karmic, and requires adjustment and compromise. It's like futzing with pieces of a puzzle to make them fit. Requires patience, time, and making sure they're the RIGHT pieces - and you're not just shoving them together or snipping off corners.

posted April 25, 2013 07:23 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay, now what's all this helio business? Ceri was asking me if I'd done the helio as of yet, but I've very little experience in that area.

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I have read a bit up on it (namely Blashke and Erlewine); most authors relate it to the Spirit working through the tropical.
It is a bit esoteric maybe, and difficult to grasp.

It is true that in the helio i lose my most preferred things to look at, the angles, and nodal axis and Moon of course.
As a matter of fact we do not lose the Moon but instead it becomes merged with Earth. The Earth-Moon-complex, which is always opposite the Sun.

The view is different.
The geocentric zodiac pictures the stars/ planets/ sky from the perspective of Earth., which is of course our very intimate personal subjective view, as we are on Earth. Imo no matter what else is going on is being filtered through that view, as we cannot ever be objective, as we are subjects.
(though we can strive to)

the heliocentric chart is a snapshot of the star/planets etc,w ith the Sun as the centre (instead of the earth as with geocentric view); as the Sun really IS the centre of our solar system, this gives a more objective view.
But as always, we do not live on the Sun, so our view is always modified by our earthly perspective.

however, these authors said that the helio shows how pure spirit operates in your life, like it is pouring down in your earthly life.
(blashke).
Erlewine and others refer to the geocentric as a more external chart, a personality shaped by the surroundings, our material existence (earth), as we need to be part of this system, and are in interaction with it to survive.

The heliocentric perspective on the other hand, in his words, is more the Snapshot of the internal Self.

While I would not totally subscribe to that yet, how I see it is that he helio describes that core of essence that is US, maybe our Higher Self, Spirit, however you want to call it.
That part of us that remains and shines, when you strip away our "conceptions", maybe also our karmic business.
I canīt really describe it, I know, i have a "feel" for it, but for some reason cannot really transfer it to words.

If I tried to put it into an image, I would relate it to a candle or a flame from the inside. I donīt know, it does not make it any clearer I guess.

let me try an example:

A couple might have all the heavy karma business and when they tap into their old patterns of behaviour might go at each other`s throats within a heartbeat (maybe a Sun-Pluto or mars-uranus aspect laced with nasty Saturn stuff).

Yet, in some moments when they take a deep breath, and somehow gain a "birdīs view" of themselves, stepping out of their routines or patterns for a moment, they look at each other, see the spark of soul in each other`s eyes, and they can feel their spirits embrace in each other and simply feel the love (when they detach for long enough from their daily crap) - that might be their Venus-Jupiter-conjunction in helio.
That is what is behind it all, the flame simmering, not in the background, but from deep inside.
That is what is the "inner essences".

That is helio synastry.

Just attempting to wrap my mind around it.

BTW the angles and nodal axis are not really "lost", but they are an integral part of our subjective perspective and reality, and I think that the heliocetnric like any other zodiac has to be seen in combination with the geocentric. Where they intersect via conjunctions the spiritual flame may burn very brightly through the everyday reality.