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Alabaster437
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posted June 04, 2013 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alabaster437     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey LL

So, the question is: Is he single?

Some context: I was told by a mutual friend that he was interested in me, and I had a hard time believing it at the time. Just the other night, I was on the phone with my friend, who is his workout buddy, and asked him what this guy is like, since I don't know him well at all. Well, the friend said that he actually has a girlfriend. So, I'm thinking our friends might have their wires crossed, or something lol, hence the horary.

So, he is Venus, and there are conjunctions, but they are separating. The only applying aspect here is to Saturn, but it is retrograde and near the ASC, so what would that mean for the question here? Also, should my eleventh house be factored into the picture, since I heard about this from a friend?

I'm still learning, so any input would be appreciated

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Hera
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posted June 04, 2013 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He does have a girlfriend methinks. The conjunction shows that. But yes, it is separating and I think there will be a rupture. She is Mercury and Mercury is wooing Saturn (actually they're mutually wooing) and if you count houses, Cap is the 5th from his 5th, so Sat is def a romantic interest for her. Their relationship is on the rocks for sure, just look at that T-cross with Pluto and Uranus.
He does like you, in a way, coz he's in your triplicity but also dislikes smth about you or the situation (could be frustration, jealousy too) because he's also in your fall. A love-hate kind of love. Maybe obsession.

He sort of approaches you with a semisextile, so you might get some sort of a chance with him (it is not as strong as a Ptolemaic aspect and some astrologers wouldn't even count it, but IMO an aspect is an aspect lol). Don't put too much hope on it though. It might be news or he'll add you as a friend on a social network etc, smth rather subtle than dramatic (dramatic would be Ptolemaic aspect lol).

Chart also shows your interest in him and your confusion (sq to Neptune). Situation could be frustrating or full of anxiety for you as well. Tbh I don't quite like Sat on Asc and Asc in Via Combusta. Things are unclear and perhaps dangerous.

But given that Moon's last aspect is a sextile to the great benefic who rules your 5th, I'd say things will sort out for you, one way or another. It might be meeting someone completely new tho, lol.

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Hera
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posted June 04, 2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 11th house matters because it's his 5th house (derivative houses principle). His love interests. Ruled very conveniently by Miss Mercury. So the 11th house is HER house just as the 7th is HIS house and the 1st is yours. If you count 5 houses from her house (the classic 11th) guess what you'll find? Capricorn. Miss Mercury will make a move on Saturn, who is a love interest of her.

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Alabaster437
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posted June 04, 2013 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alabaster437     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for responding, Hera!

Okay, so I'm gonna regurgitate some of what you wrote, just to make sure I have it clear. I am a noob lol!

Since Venus (him) is in Cancer, and the ASC (me) is in Scorpio, that would explain the triplicity, or the interest. But, my ruler Mars is in fall when in Cancer, so that would explain something that is off-putting to him about the situation, since that is where Venus is placed.

There is definitely a lot of weird feelings around him, and the whole situation. For one, we haven't even really connected or conversed. We've had small talk, but we have never made direct eye contact. Tbh, I've kinda avoided it, because I feel like, even with the tiniest crush, once eye contact is made, I'm a goner lol. Also, it's cool how you mention some sort of jealousy with him as I had a tarot reading about him last week, and the reader said that he admires me a lot, almost to the point of envy. I'm a bit in the spotlight at the place where we run into each other, so I think I kinda get that. He has Sun opp Pluto, like me, so there is definitely some intensity there.

Lol, I'll take that minor aspect! Hopefully, it's an actual conversation or something. Now with the Moon applying to Jupiter, do you take that to mean either progress or someone new in 4 time units (whatever those might be lol)?

Thanks for explaining derived houses, as that is always something that confuses the heck out of me! One last question, does Saturn represent someone else entirely? As in, someone his girlfriend is leaving him for?

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Sandra018
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posted June 04, 2013 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Alabaster437:
Thanks so much for responding, Hera!

Okay, so I'm gonna regurgitate some of what you wrote, just to make sure I have it clear. I am a noob lol!

Since Venus (him) is in Cancer, and the ASC (me) is in Scorpio, that would explain the triplicity, or the interest. But, my ruler Mars is in fall when in Cancer, so that would explain something that is off-putting to him about the situation, since that is where Venus is placed.

There is definitely a lot of weird feelings around him, and the whole situation. For one, we haven't even really connected or conversed. We've had small talk, but we have never made direct eye contact. Tbh, I've kinda avoided it, because I feel like, even with the tiniest crush, once eye contact is made, I'm a goner lol. Also, it's cool how you mention some sort of jealousy with him as I had a tarot reading about him last week, and the reader said that he admires me a lot, almost to the point of envy. I'm a bit in the spotlight at the place where we run into each other, so I think I kinda get that. He has Sun opp Pluto, like me, so there is definitely some intensity there.

Lol, I'll take that minor aspect! Hopefully, it's an actual conversation or something. Now with the Moon applying to Jupiter, do you take that to mean either progress or someone new in 4 time units (whatever those might be lol)?

Thanks for explaining derived houses, as that is always something that confuses the heck out of me! One last question, does Saturn represent someone else entirely? As in, someone his girlfriend is leaving him for?


Hi Alabaster,
I would like to ask you about something you mentioned in your post above, and I apologize in advance, im not trying to high jack your thread. I am curious as to how you are experiencing Sun opp Pluto nataly. The reason why I am asking is because my Sun is in an opposition to Pluto as well ( Mars and Venus too) and would love to hear someone else's point of view and experience. Once again, im sorry for posting in your thread, I hope you are not upset..ty!!

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Alabaster437
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posted June 04, 2013 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alabaster437     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ No problem, Sandra

I'll post something about that tomorrow night if I can

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