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Ceridwen
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posted June 08, 2013 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a new old book yesterday, which introduces a relationship spread and also interpretes the tarot cards in terms of this spread.

So I need 6 guinea pigs.

(but I will only do these 6 spreads and then close the list).


EDIT:
6 because it is my personal tarot birth card and because it is the number of Venus.

so here we go:

1. Selene

2. Vesta

3. Scorpio Rising

4. Cathy 1980

5. Kay Evans

6. Zarea

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posted June 08, 2013 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me! Me!

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posted June 08, 2013 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will give it a try.
Do you need a question or is it just general ?

I know something is coming soon and interested what it has to tell me.

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posted June 08, 2013 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I sit please!? :-)

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posted June 08, 2013 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cathy1980     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me ?

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posted June 08, 2013 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm always willing.. I'll have a spot if one's open, please.

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posted June 08, 2013 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ceridwen
I would like a spot too if I'm still on time. Thanks

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posted June 08, 2013 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cathy1980     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 08, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Ceridwen!

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posted June 08, 2013 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Selene,

you seem to view the relationship/ connection/ encounter specially as "fated" as three major arcana out of four possible cards appeared on your part of the equation (The world, emperor, devil).

1. What you reveal about yoursel:
The World

Have you just finished an important cycle in your life?
Or been on a journey/ travel?

You seem to be quite open and "one with the universe" at the moment.

Alternatively, if we nterprete it in terms of the relationship, it could mean that you exhibit a feeling as if this relationship is "it" for you, and that you are positively embracing it.


2. what he reveals about himself
9 of swords

Has he come out of a dark phase in his relational life? Maybe an old relationship that left deep wounds?

He appears to be wrestling with some inner demons, doubts, anxieties.


3. how you see your partner
Emperor

You see much potential on him, and therefore for the relationship. Someone you could depend on and have a very committed relationship with.

4. how he sees you
3 of cups

Fun. He probably enjoys your time together a lot, and there might also be some romantic feelings there (it is a cup-card after all).
However it is the 3 of cups, and those sometimes turn up in menages a trois or indicating that you meet in a wider circle.
Maybe he sees you as "the life of the party".
Together with the 9 of swords above - does he know you are interested in him in a much more romantic way?


5. How you see the relationship
Devil

Doubt. Fear. You might doubt if there can be a committed relationship, that is healthy, between the two of you (even though you see the potential of it - the Emperor).
I am also wondering, what about the give and take?
Are you really feeling like equal partners?
Or is one giving more into it than the other?
Or is that one of the fears, tha you might invest everything, just to get nothing, or not enough, back?


6. how he sees the relationship
King of Pentacles
Solid. With a great potential to go the distance and build something lasting and worthwile.


7. What you desire of your partner
3 of wands
Honest communication. Maybe you also want him to get in touch to you in very actual and present terms (like today. lol).
However, the 3 of wands definitely indicates a wish or more contact, and straightforward conversations that are constructive and at the same time fun.


8. What he desires of you
Queen of Wands.

Warmhearted passion and openness I`d say. He probably wants you to show him your sensual feelings more or in more demonstrative ways (maybe to dissolve his doubts?).


9. What`s it all about?
6 of wands

Victory. Celebration. Gaining more confidence and embracing what you have together.

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posted June 08, 2013 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 08, 2013 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vesta,

I am not sure your reading makes much sense, sorry, but anyway here we go...


1. What you reveal about yourself
9 of pentacles

I know that generally this card is interpreted it terms of satisfaction, happiness etc.
However, I see something a bit different in this card, and that is a woman who is very selfreliant; she is calm, grounded, but is very much "her own person", without emotional ties to others, at least not those that would render her dependent.

See, why I have difficulties interpreting that here? As I know thta you have your children, so it`s puzzling.

But it could be that this is how you come across to your soulmate. A woman that is being centred in hersel.


2. What he reveals about himsel
Page of Wands.

Here today, gone tomorrow. For now he seems to be always on the go, though not as extreme as the Knight would have been.
But still not the most reliable fellow; however on the plus side this is a creative, bubbling, sparkly, charming, warmhearted, generous and passionate man with a childlike joy of life and contagious enthusiasm.

For now though he seems to shun comitment, at least tha is what he outwardly portrays.

3. How you see your partner
2 of wands

In this case let me simply quote from the book
"You have sent a message to the person of your dreams. This is a hazardous enterprise for it`s uncertain how this thrust will be received. You do not know very much about the one who has stolen your heart, not even wether he is single or deeply involved in another relationship. But you will dare this adventure, confident that the enterprise will succeed. New lans and connections promise to work out."


4. HOw he sees you
4 of wands

I think he sees in you the potential of a promising and stable shared future. This is indicative of a very close bond he feels with you.


5. how you see the relationship
10 of pentacles

A way to find completeness in very real and grounded terms. Satisfaction and a lasting shared future.


6. how he sees the relationship
Highpriestess

It is still a mysterious one to him, so many secrets, so many things unsaid, only perceived on a maybe almost metaphysical level.
He doesnīt know yet how to define that relationship, or maybe he sees it as a secret .
However the Highpriestess also speaks of a very deep spiritual bond.

7. What you desire of your partner
Hanged Man

What you desire of him is a world turned on its head. Probably both of you have to make sacrifices in order to be together, change your perspective greatly and then just go with the flow of it.

8. What he desires of you
3 of swords

Since I think it is not very likely that he desires that you inflict heartbreak on him, it might mean that a triangle has to be broken up (either on your side or his, or on both) so you can be together.
Or alternatively it indicates the wish for healing from such immense heartfelt pain.

9. What`s it all about

6 of pentacles
An equal give and take. Gaining a feeling of balance and harmony, of giving and accepting.

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posted June 08, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Rising


1. how you reveal yourself
Temperance

You radiate a feeling of balance and peacefulness. A sense of cooperation and teamwork. Definitely giving off a very mature vibe.


2. how he reveals himself
8 of wands

Quite energetic. Maybe tends to be always on the move. Also a great need for freedom and doing things he wants to do, when he wants to do them.
If he feels like the doors are closed or he is being fenced in, he might take off instantly.


3. how you see your partner
Knight of Pentacles

Reliable (with the caveat from above, just as long as noone threatens his freedom); someonw with whom you can build something together.


4. how he sees you
Magician

As a genius? LOL
Does he maybe admire a certain way with words you have? Intellectual assets?
There is definitely a strong physical spark here as well.


5. how you see the relationship
10 of wands

Now, that is interesting. Are you exhausted? Has the connection become some kind of a burden? Do you feel like you have to carry it on your shoulders and have to do it alone, that you donīt get as much help from him, as you would need to?


6. Howe he sees the relationship
5 of wands

Maybe he feels like there is a bit of an aggressive spark in it. Together with the 10th of wands on your side, do you have differences in opinion very often? Maybe also about where that relationship is or should be going?

On the plus side, this can also be about a playful, teasing vibe, like a sparring partner, but still the sense of competition might be tough to handle at time.
Maybe you both tend to play the "strong" one and do not want to admit any kind of weaknesses.


7. What you desire of your partner
Page of Pentacles

More stability, commitment and the feeling you can really rely on him (as you see the potential there, Knight of Pentacles showed how you see him basically).


8. what he desires o you
Lovers.

Simple answer.
Your love.
He wants to connect and relate to you in equal terms (moving beyond the fighting of the 5 of wands).

And o course it is also possible that he really wants you to make a choice, to say Yes to that relationship.


9. What it`s about
4 of cups

I guess the disbalance that seems to be there between what you two want and how you actually see the relationship, results in some feelings of dissatisfaction.
It might also be that you don`t see all the good the relationship has to offer.
There could also be too much pondering involved here, a certain fear to really invest feelings into the relationship.

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posted June 08, 2013 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Selene,

you seem to view the relationship/ connection/ encounter specially as "fated" as three major arcana out of four possible cards appeared on your part of the equation (The world, emperor, devil).

1. What you reveal about yoursel:
The World

Have you just finished an important cycle in your life?
Or been on a journey/ travel?

You seem to be quite open and "one with the universe" at the moment.

Alternatively, if we nterprete it in terms of the relationship, it could mean that you exhibit a feeling as if this relationship is "it" for you, and that you are positively embracing it.
[b]I do feel open and "one" with the Universe as it keeps giving me signs, we are in tune, that's right. And these signs led me to know this man in the first place, lol

2. what he reveals about himself
9 of swords

Has he come out of a dark phase in his relational life? Maybe an old relationship that left deep wounds?

He appears to be wrestling with some inner demons, doubts, anxieties.

Exactly. He isn't over his previous relationship...
3. how you see your partner
Emperor

You see much potential on him, and therefore for the relationship. Someone you could depend on and have a very committed relationship with.
Yes, he has kind of taken care of me, helping me, checking out if i'm fine, etc. I feel that i can both trust him and rely on him when necessary.
4. how he sees you
3 of cups

Fun. He probably enjoys your time together a lot, and there might also be some romantic feelings there (it is a cup-card after all).
However it is the 3 of cups, and those sometimes turn up in menages a trois or indicating that you meet in a wider circle.
Maybe he sees you as "the life of the party".
Together with the 9 of swords above - does he know you are interested in him in a much more romantic way?

Yes, we love having fun together, especially lately. I would say that he sees me as refreshing/someone that brightens up his time, because whenever we go somewhere, even in a circle of friends, he's next to me.
5. How you see the relationship
Devil

Doubt. Fear. You might doubt if there can be a committed relationship, that is healthy, between the two of you (even though you see the potential of it - the Emperor).
I am also wondering, what about the give and take?
Are you really feeling like equal partners?
Or is one giving more into it than the other?
Or is that one of the fears, tha you might invest everything, just to get nothing, or not enough, back?

[b]I just terribly want him. In a sense that Devil implies, lol. But i think that i might not have shown it as much as i would want to. There have been texts from his side, though. Nevertheless, he might be the one that's giving probably more than i.
6. how he sees the relationship
King of Pentacles
Solid. With a great potential to go the distance and build something lasting and worthwile.


7. What you desire of your partner
3 of wands
Honest communication. Maybe you also want him to get in touch to you in very actual and present terms (like today. lol).
Yes, today i wanted so much for him to call me. But in general - yes, it's true.
However, the 3 of wands definitely indicates a wish or more contact, and straightforward conversations that are constructive and at the same time fun.


8. What he desires of you
Queen of Wands.

Warmhearted passion and openness I`d say. He probably wants you to show him your sensual feelings more or in more demonstrative ways (maybe to dissolve his doubts?).
I guess you're right. I'll give it a try for sure. What can i lose, after all.

9. What`s it all about?
6 of wands

Victory. Celebration. Gaining more confidence and embracing what you have together.

[/B]


Thank you lots!!! It was very informative and true!

I just wanted to leave this quote - as of what this connection with him seems to be all about from my side.

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posted June 08, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Scorpio Rising


1. how you reveal yourself
Temperance

You radiate a feeling of balance and peacefulness. A sense of cooperation and teamwork. Definitely giving off a very mature vibe.


2. how he reveals himself
8 of wands

Quite energetic. Maybe tends to be always on the move. Also a great need for freedom and doing things he wants to do, when he wants to do them.
If he feels like the doors are closed or he is being fenced in, he might take off instantly.


3. how you see your partner
Knight of Pentacles

Reliable (with the caveat from above, just as long as noone threatens his freedom); someonw with whom you can build something together.


4. how he sees you
Magician

As a genius? LOL
Does he maybe admire a certain way with words you have? Intellectual assets?
There is definitely a strong physical spark here as well.


5. how you see the relationship
10 of wands

Now, that is interesting. Are you exhausted? Has the connection become some kind of a burden? Do you feel like you have to carry it on your shoulders and have to do it alone, that you donīt get as much help from him, as you would need to?


6. Howe he sees the relationship
5 of wands

Maybe he feels like there is a bit of an aggressive spark in it. Together with the 10th of wands on your side, do you have differences in opinion very often? Maybe also about where that relationship is or should be going?

On the plus side, this can also be about a playful, teasing vibe, like a sparring partner, but still the sense of competition might be tough to handle at time.
Maybe you both tend to play the "strong" one and do not want to admit any kind of weaknesses.


7. What you desire of your partner
Page of Pentacles

More stability, commitment and the feeling you can really rely on him (as you see the potential there, Knight of Pentacles showed how you see him basically).


8. what he desires o you
Lovers.

Simple answer.
Your love.
He wants to connect and relate to you in equal terms (moving beyond the fighting of the 5 of wands).

And o course it is also possible that he really wants you to make a choice, to say Yes to that relationship.


9. What it`s about
4 of cups

I guess the disbalance that seems to be there between what you two want and how you actually see the relationship, results in some feelings of dissatisfaction.
It might also be that you don`t see all the good the relationship has to offer.
There could also be too much pondering involved here, a certain fear to really invest feelings into the relationship.


I'm actually gobsmacked with how accurate you are. Yes he is definitely outgoing and hates being smothered, yes all he wants is for me to be with him and say yes to him. I don't because he has just come out of a relationship, and I have a feeling he is using me as a rebound and is only attracted to me physically. Need more than that, he also wants to go travelling next year, and I can't, so what's the point.... I can't allow myself to be hurt if he takes off no way.. So that explains the 10 of wands and 5 Of wands and 4 of cups. I could easily let him in.. It will be letting go that would kill me...

Your hit the nail on the head.. Many thanks for your reading... :-)

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posted June 08, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri

Bummed that I missed sitting for this, but thank you for posting - the structure and questions aspects of this spread are informative. I am only recently moving on to more complex spreads. Likewise, how the cards are interpreted are interesting too - do you mind sharing the layout of the spread or if this is too cumbersome - the name of the book and I will look it up? Thank you and hugs!

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posted June 08, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cathy,

after reading that you feel stuck and apparently had bumped into a hurdle in your relationshi path, I was very surprised, esp. at the first two cards that came up.

1. how you reveal yourself
9 of cups

2. how he reveals himself
6 of cups

These two cards look just so beautiful and truely loving to me.
With the 6 of cups of course the thought of a soulmate relationship comes up (yes, I agree with Lisa from lovedove tarot in that. 6 of cups IS a soulmate card, and for me personally 2 of cups is, too).

Of course, even though it may look loving and harmonious and perfect, there can still be problems underneath.
But I just can`t shake the feeling that you have something really beauitful there.


3. how you see your partner
Hierophant

Hmm, you seem to see in him the potential for a true commitment, maybe even leading to marriage.

On the other hand maybe also too conventional?


4. how your partner sees you
8 of swords

Maybe he feels inordinately "bound"; he might feel like you have discussions and disagreements about the same things over and over again, but there is no progress, because you are talking past each other instead of with each other.
he might see a lot o strength and power in you, and in turn feels helpless, but does not know how to get on an equal footing again.
Maybe he also fears that he invests too much feeling but will be rejected in the end.

It`s a swords card, so I think either he is overthinking things to the point that he goes in circles, or he feels that you do.


5. How you see the relationship
9 of wands

Stuck. That is a good word to describe that I think.
It`s also possible that you fight over the same old issues again and again without anything ever be resolved; those old issues may even stem from past relationships, that caused some wounding in you, and youīre getting into the same cycle and holding-pattern again.

However, the good news is that you are not ready to give up, because on some level you feel it`s worth fighting for.


6. How he sees the relationship
8 of pentacles

He views the relationship as one that demands a lot of work and patience. But with the 8 o pentacles it might seem worth the waiting and working for it. Progress will be slow, but it will happen. And you can slowly build something together with that.

7.what you desire from him
Strength.

Well, yes, Strength. And passion and zest for life. Being able to breathe freely again and embrace life with him. Restoring the inner balance after having navigated the storms together. And this in term will lead to a fresh, more enthusiastic outlook.


8. what he desires of you
King of Cups

Love. Being appreciated and seen for the love and affection he feels for you, even though he may not share them as freely (as the other cup cards). The King, though deeply caring and affectionate, can sometimes be a bit reserved.


9. What it`s about
Queen of Swords

This might be you, an independent, strong, honest, analytical woman. But also one who might get a little selfdefensive at times, and has to learn to trust in love again and to let somebody in.

Alternatively of course he could also represent the Queen of Swords. Only you can tell though.


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posted June 08, 2013 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kay Evans,

1. how you reveal yourself
Knight of coups

You appear to be open, sensitive, very idealistic, believing in love and romance.
Oh and probably in love.

2. how he reveals himself
Chariot

Hmm, ambitious, goaloriented I guess. Is he very busy workwise at the moment?


3. how you see him
Knight of wands

As charming, outgoing, but not very reliable. His energy might sometimes make him a little restless. There might be a physical/ sexual spark, but it usually is not enough to make this Knight get planted.
You might also view him as quite popular with other women as well.

However this knight can be so charming,y ou might be ready to forgive him just anything.


4. how he sees you
Ace of pentacles

He sees you as more stable and grounded, and maybe imagines that there is the root of something lasting you both can build on.
Ther emight be a feeling of comfort around you, and he views you as loyal and patient, someone who deserves to be trusted.

5. how you see the relationship
King of Wands

Court cards in this position are so difficult to interprete!
Anyway, probably you see that there is a lot of warmth, creativity, enthusiasm potentially inherent in this possible relationship.


6. how he sees the relationship
Wheel of Fortune

He has got no ******* clue!
But it surely feels important, and maybe like a twist or encounter of fate (the fact that 3 of his cards are majors also seem to imply that this connection is very important to him).

It might also gve him a glimmer of hope, or a feeling, that now he is on his way up, and that he is lucky to know you.


7. What you desire of him
7 of swords

Now I do not expect you to desire him to cheat you left and right, so I think if a negative card pops up here, this s what you do NOT want.

I could imagine that you would want him to stop being sneaky, smart assy (especially in trying to avoid a direct answer) and stealing away. Maybe you even suspect he is not completely honest with you, and you just want to know what`s going on, where you stand.

8. what he desires of you
Moon

In the worst case scenario, a clandestine affair.
Like you he miht be a bit unsure about where you stand with each other, and these hide-and-seek-games have to stop.


9. What`s it about
5 of swords


Ouch, I mean really OUCH, together with the 7 ofs words and the Moon I get the feeling as if someone is not really that honest. In the best case scenario it is just about not being open about one`s feelings out of fear for rejection.
But there is also the possibility that one of you is actually having another partner, or that there is dishonesty involved.
The 5 of swords also could point to quarrels and arguments, and unlike in the 5 of wands, these can get really mean, hurtful and nasty, if one tries to triumph over the other. (or even a third party)

HOpefully this is not the case though.

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posted June 08, 2013 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zarea,

1. how you reveal yourself
Queen of Wands

A creative, strong, independent, warm, sensual and generous woman


2. how he reveals himself
Emperor

An able, strong, protective man, who knows what he wants.

Both are cards that speak to me of two mature (not old, mature lol) independent people, who know what they want, and are not new to the "game". In fact you both might be tired of playing games and seeking something more stable and worthwile.

3. how you see him
Judgement

As judgemental? LOL Just kidding
It`s a very karmic card, so it might be that you feel like you have known him in a past life and that there is unfinished business, that you now have the chance to finish with him.

Even if that is not how you feel about him, this card heralds that this encounter is deeply important for you. ONe of these encounter where you will say later on: ANd from the moment on I met him, nothing was as it had been before.

The old self will be left behind in order for something new to begin, and he brings the new into your life.

4. how he sees you
Star

That is sweet. You are a beacon of hope for him, a guiding light into his future.
Beside any existing sexual attraction, above all friendship and hope and faith in a future are predominant.


5. how you see the relationship
Knight of swords

Stimulating. Bringing you in contact with new idas. Bringing change into your life.
However with this knight you may fear that it is not meant to last. Once the experiences have been made, it might simply dissolve. It doesn`t mean that this will be like this, just that you might doubt if it can last.


6. how he sees the relationship
4 of swords

A refuge. A place to retreat. it gives him the possibility to rest and heal.
Has he come out of another relationship? Or needing some rest in other ways?


7. what you desire of him
7 of pentacles

Patience. The readiness to stay and work on the relationship, even if the progress seems only very slow (and with the Knight of Swords, you might doubt if he can deliver that).


8. what he desires of you
10 of cups

Happiness and contentment. Maybe he even wants to have a family with you. Or at least feel such a strong belonging with you.


9. What it`s all about
10 of wands

This is a card of a burden, that seems too heavy at times. Especially if one o you feel they are carrying it alone.

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posted June 08, 2013 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just in case anyone wonders: I am not working with reversals, as I find the symbolism telling enough as it is. And it is not like very tarot card is just lovey-dovey-fluffy, right?

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Kay Evans,

1. how you reveal yourself
Knight of coups

You appear to be open, sensitive, very idealistic, believing in love and romance.
Oh and probably in love.

2. how he reveals himself
Chariot

Hmm, ambitious, goaloriented I guess. Is he very busy workwise at the moment?


3. how you see him
Knight of wands

As charming, outgoing, but not very reliable. His energy might sometimes make him a little restless. There might be a physical/ sexual spark, but it usually is not enough to make this Knight get planted.
You might also view him as quite popular with other women as well.

However this knight can be so charming,y ou might be ready to forgive him just anything.


4. how he sees you
Ace of pentacles

He sees you as more stable and grounded, and maybe imagines that there is the root of something lasting you both can build on.
Ther emight be a feeling of comfort around you, and he views you as loyal and patient, someone who deserves to be trusted.

5. how you see the relationship
King of Wands

Court cards in this position are so difficult to interprete!
Anyway, probably you see that there is a lot of warmth, creativity, enthusiasm potentially inherent in this possible relationship.


6. how he sees the relationship
Wheel of Fortune

He has got no ******* clue!
But it surely feels important, and maybe like a twist or encounter of fate (the fact that 3 of his cards are majors also seem to imply that this connection is very important to him).

It might also gve him a glimmer of hope, or a feeling, that now he is on his way up, and that he is lucky to know you.


7. What you desire of him
7 of swords

Now I do not expect you to desire him to cheat you left and right, so I think if a negative card pops up here, this s what you do NOT want.

I could imagine that you would want him to stop being sneaky, smart assy (especially in trying to avoid a direct answer) and stealing away. Maybe you even suspect he is not completely honest with you, and you just want to know what`s going on, where you stand.

8. what he desires of you
Moon

In the worst case scenario, a clandestine affair.
Like you he miht be a bit unsure about where you stand with each other, and these hide-and-seek-games have to stop.


9. What`s it about
5 of swords


Ouch, I mean really OUCH, together with the 7 ofs words and the Moon I get the feeling as if someone is not really that honest. In the best case scenario it is just about not being open about one`s feelings out of fear for rejection.
But there is also the possibility that one of you is actually having another partner, or that there is dishonesty involved.
The 5 of swords also could point to quarrels and arguments, and unlike in the 5 of wands, these can get really mean, hurtful and nasty, if one tries to triumph over the other. (or even a third party)

HOpefully this is not the case though.


Well, d***.. excuse my language, but you are more right than you realize. This guy has been stuck to me like glue for almost a year, and I thought we were heading towards an official relationship. However, about a month and a half ago he disappeared and suddenly resurfaced with a girlfriend. So you're right when you say that "there is also the possibility that one of you is actually having another partner". I have no idea how serious it is with her.

As for, "this knight can be so charming,you might be ready to forgive him just anything." I have forgiven him for little things in the past, even when I said I would no longer talk to him, so this definitely rang true.

All in all, I know that your descriptions of me and from my POV are accurate, so I can only assume the same for your reading on him. The only thing I'm uncertain of how to take is the last card you pulled.. specifically this: "The 5 of swords also could point to quarrels and arguments, and unlike in the 5 of wands, these can get really mean, hurtful and nasty, if one tries to triumph over the other. (or even a third party)". I'm not making any attempt to steal him from the woman he's dating, so there should be no argument about that.. but maybe there is something I'm not seeing right now.

You, your book, and cards have done well with helping me gain insight into this, so I thank you for that.

Edit: I just did some reading on what the 5 of swords represents, and it seems to represent selfish activities and the loss of companionship due to self-centered actions. On the other hand, it can also indicate a major road bump that needs to be overcome before moving forward (which obviously applies in this case), or can indicate that the querent may feel like someone has currently got the best of them. In my opinion, all of this ties in with the situation, so I will keep reading to help me figure out how to handle everything. Thank you again!

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posted June 08, 2013 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Zarea,

1. how you reveal yourself
Queen of Wands

A creative, strong, independent, warm, sensual and generous woman


2. how he reveals himself
Emperor

An able, strong, protective man, who knows what he wants.

Both are cards that speak to me of two mature (not old, mature lol) independent people, who know what they want, and are not new to the "game". In fact you both might be tired of playing games and seeking something more stable and worthwile.

3. how you see him
Judgement

As judgemental? LOL Just kidding
It`s a very karmic card, so it might be that you feel like you have known him in a past life and that there is unfinished business, that you now have the chance to finish with him.

Even if that is not how you feel about him, this card heralds that this encounter is deeply important for you. ONe of these encounter where you will say later on: ANd from the moment on I met him, nothing was as it had been before.

The old self will be left behind in order for something new to begin, and he brings the new into your life.

4. how he sees you
Star

That is sweet. You are a beacon of hope for him, a guiding light into his future.
Beside any existing sexual attraction, above all friendship and hope and faith in a future are predominant.


5. how you see the relationship
Knight of swords

Stimulating. Bringing you in contact with new idas. Bringing change into your life.
However with this knight you may fear that it is not meant to last. Once the experiences have been made, it might simply dissolve. It doesn`t mean that this will be like this, just that you might doubt if it can last.


6. how he sees the relationship
4 of swords

A refuge. A place to retreat. it gives him the possibility to rest and heal.
Has he come out of another relationship? Or needing some rest in other ways?


7. what you desire of him
7 of pentacles

Patience. The readiness to stay and work on the relationship, even if the progress seems only very slow (and with the Knight of Swords, you might doubt if he can deliver that).


8. what he desires of you
10 of cups

Happiness and contentment. Maybe he even wants to have a family with you. Or at least feel such a strong belonging with you.


9. What it`s all about
10 of wands

This is a card of a burden, that seems too heavy at times. Especially if one o you feel they are carrying it alone.


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posted June 08, 2013 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

sorry about the double quotes...lol
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Zarea,

1. how you reveal yourself
Queen of Wands

A creative, strong, independent, warm, sensual and generous woman


2. how he reveals himself
Emperor

An able, strong, protective man, who knows what he wants.

Both are cards that speak to me of two mature (not old, mature lol) independent people, who know what they want, and are not new to the "game". In fact you both might be tired of playing games and seeking something more stable and worthwile.

3. how you see him
Judgement

As judgemental? LOL Just kidding
It`s a very karmic card, so it might be that you feel like you have known him in a past life and that there is unfinished business, that you now have the chance to finish with him.

Even if that is not how you feel about him, this card heralds that this encounter is deeply important for you. ONe of these encounter where you will say later on: ANd from the moment on I met him, nothing was as it had been before.

The old self will be left behind in order for something new to begin, and he brings the new into your life.

4. how he sees you
Star

That is sweet. You are a beacon of hope for him, a guiding light into his future.
Beside any existing sexual attraction, above all friendship and hope and faith in a future are predominant.


5. how you see the relationship
Knight of swords

Stimulating. Bringing you in contact with new idas. Bringing change into your life.
However with this knight you may fear that it is not meant to last. Once the experiences have been made, it might simply dissolve. It doesn`t mean that this will be like this, just that you might doubt if it can last.


6. how he sees the relationship
4 of swords

A refuge. A place to retreat. it gives him the possibility to rest and heal.
Has he come out of another relationship? Or needing some rest in other ways?


7. what you desire of him
7 of pentacles

Patience. The readiness to stay and work on the relationship, even if the progress seems only very slow (and with the Knight of Swords, you might doubt if he can deliver that).


8. what he desires of you
10 of cups

Happiness and contentment. Maybe he even wants to have a family with you. Or at least feel such a strong belonging with you.


9. What it`s all about
10 of wands

This is a card of a burden, that seems too heavy at times. Especially if one o you feel they are carrying it alone.


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posted June 08, 2013 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks Ceridwen. I'm very grateful for this reading. It's absolutely spot on for me and spot on for him as well I think. To tell you the truth, we're not in a relationship anymore but I feel like we are in some way. We're still connected. Some of this feeling is because i can be quite delusional about him (venus in pisces) but also because of the karmic aspect you mentioned in the card ...

The last card is absolutely spot on: there is/was/ this burden to the relationship which is why we're not together anymore, or at least until he can be truly committed to me and to making it work (7 of pentacles huh ?). We're both mature lol...I'm mid-thirties and he's forty so no time for game...I've known him for 7 years now and since that first meeting, nothing has been the same in good and bad ways. He's definitely the emperor, he's appeared as such in free online readings. This is the major arcana for Aries I think and that is his sun sign. The 4 of swords card is definitely spot on for when we met: he was coming from a very painful relationship. But I've read on this card and i think it also is symbolic of what we're going through right now: a huge crisis over how the "burden" of the relationship should be carried...

thank you again for your generosity and a great reading

quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Zarea,

1. how you reveal yourself
Queen of Wands

A creative, strong, independent, warm, sensual and generous woman


2. how he reveals himself
Emperor

An able, strong, protective man, who knows what he wants.

Both are cards that speak to me of two mature (not old, mature lol) independent people, who know what they want, and are not new to the "game". In fact you both might be tired of playing games and seeking something more stable and worthwile.

3. how you see him
Judgement

As judgemental? LOL Just kidding
It`s a very karmic card, so it might be that you feel like you have known him in a past life and that there is unfinished business, that you now have the chance to finish with him.

Even if that is not how you feel about him, this card heralds that this encounter is deeply important for you. ONe of these encounter where you will say later on: ANd from the moment on I met him, nothing was as it had been before.

The old self will be left behind in order for something new to begin, and he brings the new into your life.

4. how he sees you
Star

That is sweet. You are a beacon of hope for him, a guiding light into his future.
Beside any existing sexual attraction, above all friendship and hope and faith in a future are predominant.


5. how you see the relationship
Knight of swords

Stimulating. Bringing you in contact with new idas. Bringing change into your life.
However with this knight you may fear that it is not meant to last. Once the experiences have been made, it might simply dissolve. It doesn`t mean that this will be like this, just that you might doubt if it can last.


6. how he sees the relationship
4 of swords

A refuge. A place to retreat. it gives him the possibility to rest and heal.
Has he come out of another relationship? Or needing some rest in other ways?


7. what you desire of him
7 of pentacles

Patience. The readiness to stay and work on the relationship, even if the progress seems only very slow (and with the Knight of Swords, you might doubt if he can deliver that).


8. what he desires of you
10 of cups

Happiness and contentment. Maybe he even wants to have a family with you. Or at least feel such a strong belonging with you.


9. What it`s all about
10 of wands

This is a card of a burden, that seems too heavy at times. Especially if one o you feel they are carrying it alone.


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posted June 09, 2013 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cathy1980     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceridwin,
Thank you so much. I found relevance to most of the points you have said.

I'd like to give my inputs in response to your points when my network problem is over.

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