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Ltownboogie
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posted June 13, 2013 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am currently interested in a Leo man. I am a Pisces, and have never been in any close relationship with a Leo, romantic or not. So over the last few months I have been really trying to figure him out. He is in law school. A self made man. Knows what he wants in life, and has no doubt that he will get it. Which I am EXTREMELY attracted to, especially because I am going through a divorce with a fellow pisces man that was the complete opposite (lazy, selfish, antisocial, manipulative, etc) The biggest problem that I have with him is his Capricorn moon. He seems to have this "image" of his perfect woman that will be his "queen" and partner in life. It's completely unrealistic and I can already see that he's wanting someone to boost himself socially. (sickening to me, really)
But I still REALLY like this guy.

Can someone give me any insight?
Have you ever been with a man with some of his placements, what was your experience?

HIM:
Sun- Leo
Moon- Capricorn
Asc- Libra
Mercury- Cancer
Venus- Gemini
Mars- Libra
Jupiter- Virgo
Saturn- Virgo
Uranus- Scorpio
Neptune- Sagittarius
Pluto- Libra
N. Node- Leo

ME:
Sun- Pisces
Moon- Taurus
Asc- Leo
Mercury- Pisces
Venus- Aquarius
Mars- Taurus
Jupiter- Aries
Saturn- Sagittarius
Uranus- Sagittarius
Neptune- Capricorn
Pluto- Scorpio
N. Node- Aries

Me: Him:
Sun Trine Mercury
Sun Opposition Jupiter
Venus Opposition Sun
Mars Trine Jupiter
Jupiter Trine Sun
Saturn Opposition Venus
Saturn Square Saturn
Saturn Conjunction Neptune
Saturn Sextile Pluto
Uranus Square Saturn
Neptune Square Mars
Neptune Trine Jupiter
Pluto Sextile Jupiter

Thanks for any insight!

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~Ltownboogie~
Sun: Pisces
Asc: Leo
Moon: Taurus
Venus: Aquarius
Mars: Taurus

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Randall
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posted June 13, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Ltownboogie
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posted June 14, 2013 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump... Anyone, Anyone?

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Randall
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posted June 14, 2013 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Personal Readings where you'll get a better response.

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starmoon
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posted June 14, 2013 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t know how helpful this’ll be to you, but I do have a cap moon and a Libra mars, as your guy does, and my life is surrounded by Leos all of sorts - sun, moon and venus placements. Leo and Capricorn are actually very similar signs in the sense that they are both very powerful and know what they want. I can imagine that a guy with those two as sun/moon would be very self-assured and confident, if not cocky. When you said he wants a queen, you’re definitely seeing the Leo aspect come out there - Leo (represented by the lion) is the ‘king’ and of course he’s going to want someone he can show off and take around - Leo men like women with a lot of style and flash, and good looks so that people can envy them. Capricorn moons operate a bit less overt - we have an image of what we want to be, and whether a partner will fit our lifestyle or not. So, I would expect that this guy would really know who/what he is looking for. Despite having an outgoing Leo sun, a Cap moon can be very shy in love, and Leo confidence often times hides insecurity, so don’t always think he knows it all - he might be covering up his insecurities. I can see just from what you listed that he was likely drawn to your Leo ascendant; you would outwardly have the type of personality he’d be immediately drawn to. Just remember that men (typically) love women who can identify with their moon sign and make them feel ‘at home.’ You do have a Taurus moon, so it’s in the same element and shouldn’t be too much of a struggle. Leos love attention, so give him a lot of hugs and kisses and affection/attention, and his cap moon will enjoy that too - cap moons really enjoy security and warmth and knowing someone is reliable and will be around for a long time. My bf has an aqua venus (as you do) so I know the tendency can be to run off and seem aloof at times but you wouldn’t want to do that with this type of partner - he’d want you close by so you’d have to try in that regard to ‘stop’ your Venus from doing what it naturally would want (remaining cooler and distant). Leos thrive on having followers and people who admire them, so be his #1 admirer and the cap moon will enjoy that security too. The last thing you’d want to do is deflate him in any way or tell him you don’t like his ‘unrealistic’ vision - because to him it’s not.. Leos and Caps DO NOT, at all, want to be embarrassed or criticized, so be careful of ever coming across that way. I’m not sure how good a Leo memory is, but Cap moons don’t forget insults or hurts easily. Good luck.

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Ltownboogie
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posted June 14, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good insight. Thank you so much! You are correct in that he was drawn to my Leo Ascendant. When we first started talking again (We've known eachother for 6 years, worked together in a couple of different jobs, but were never very close, as I was always dating my now ex) He boasted about how well he "knew" women. So I asked for him to describe what he thought about me. He said that he knew (obviously) that I am a hard worker (something his Leo sun and Cap moon probably admire) and that I can be a "people pleaser". I think that he mentioned people pleaser just because he knew I put up with my ex for so long, but truly I am (Pisces Sun). And he also mentioned that he thought that I was a "social animal, that's been underfed", which immediately made me think (Leo Ascendent!)...Oh, and he mentioned he thought I had a bit of a temper. (Leo asc)

We spoke for about a month via web and phone, since he was living out of town in school, and we got along famously. We rarely went more than maybe 2 days without either making a friendly remark on-line, or calling one another.

When he came into town for the summer he immediately came to see me while I was having a BBQ at my mother's, even before stopping at his own parent's house to see them. We spent the night together cuddling, as we agreed to cuddle this summer even before he came into town. He was very much a gentleman (opened the car door, paid for the beer, any other little gentlemanly thing he could have done)..

I feel like he really had genuine feelings for me, but for some reason lately things have seemed to slow down. He mentioned that I seemed, essentially, less outgoing than he pictured me when we began talking online and over the phone (Pisces Sun coming into play) and really, it was just because I was really intimidated by him. I have been with my ex for 10 years (age 16-26) so I am completely awkward when it comes to being around other guys in a dating way. So I was probably really nervous/distant seeming while we were out.

Also we both are partiers that have recently started attending church, and are trying to kind of "grow up" (i'm 26, he's 33) and so I know he is looking for "wifey material" and we did have a couple of episodes at the bar where some extreme makeout sessions took place, and so I feel like now he may think of me differently.

He's constantly talking about his future plans. House in the country, wife, 5 kids, etc, etc. and it seems like we want the same things in life, which I have told him! But one night, after some mutually guilty pleasure, he said that he really wishes that he could only be intimate with his future wife, and that I am "not her", and that he hasn't met her yet, but when he does he will "know". This totally crushed me.

I think the biggest issue I have is balancing the showering of compliments to him, and trying not to seem too clingy. I feel if I reach out to him all of the time I seem clingy and less independent. It's also hard because he is working 7 days/wk over the next few weeks and so our schedules aren't allowing much hang out time.

I'm so confused by this guy :/

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starmoon
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posted June 14, 2013 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ltownboogie:

He's constantly talking about his future plans. House in the country, wife, 5 kids, etc, etc. and it seems like we want the same things in life, which I have told him! But one night, after some mutually guilty pleasure, he said that he really wishes that he could only be intimate with his future wife, and that I am "not her", and that he hasn't met her yet, but when he does he will "know". This totally crushed me.


yeah, this would hurt a lot, especially if you've been intimate with him. but, it does give you his answer - he's basically saying he'll sleep with you while waiting for his ideal to come along. Don't allow him to make you second best ...

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Ltownboogie
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posted June 15, 2013 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, starmoon. I think I probably have been blinded by that Leo magnetism I am just going to continue to talk/flirt with him (in my more airy Venus ways) and try not to let my heart rule my head. Definitely no more promiscuity. Idk if it's a certain placement of mine (Taurus moon maybe?) or maybe a synastry aspect, but I seem to feel very stubborn about this one. Almost like I have to prove to him (over time) that I am worthy. And also sort of "I want this one, I'm going to get what I want" type of feeling (Leo asc coming out?) Ugh!

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Haplesschild*
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posted June 15, 2013 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow hun please don't. You deserve somebody who wants you, not somebody who is treating you as the 'filler' girl.

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mir
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posted June 15, 2013 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I made the same mistake once. A guy told me I wasn't *THE ONE*. I guess the turn-on for me at that time was his (overall) honesty as I had never heard/experienced something like it. So yess very impressed by his personality (+ phallus to be honest). But well ofcourse, I had to find out he just plain & simple meant what he said and ofcourse that there's no way dealing with someone that doesn't give it all. No one wants that, finally.

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Ltownboogie
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posted June 17, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally appreciate the words of wisdom. One last question...

We have Saturn-Neptune Conjunction..
I've heard this called a "Romeo and Juliet Aspect" .. Any thoughts on this?

Grasping at straws, I know.

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Haplesschild*
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posted June 17, 2013 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're both generational planets so move slow so it doesnt meant much hun.

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posted June 18, 2013 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ltownboogie:
Totally appreciate the words of wisdom. One last question...

We have Saturn-Neptune Conjunction..
I've heard this called a "Romeo and Juliet Aspect" .. Any thoughts on this?

Grasping at straws, I know.


Romeo and Juliet both died...just food for thought..

The Saturn-Neptune connection can be a strong one, but I think the true binding with this is when it's a DW in synastry. Aspects between Saturn/Neptune both ways.

I'm gonna be perfectly honest though..

I don't think you should pursue a relationship with him, not even to "prove" anything to yourself. It will just hurt in the end.

I love Leos, personally. They are some of my favorite people around. So I completely understand the draw to him, but if he's flat out told you that he knows you're not the one, I don't think that will change. I've never met a Leo male who's mind was swayed once it was made up. Stubborn to a fault you might say...

Also, if you aren't the type to enjoy being objectified or interested in social statuses, I think this is a poor match to start.

Leos/Caps both are very image oriented. Leo is personal image while Cap is public image. To have these two signs combined in Sun/Moon, the person is likely to hold what others think of them, and the way they project themselves to be very serious matters indeed. If you aren't interested in helping further his social standings just by being at his side, as you put it, it detests you, this is definitely not the man for you.

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Ltownboogie
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posted June 18, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reply Lionfish.

From what I knew about his chart, when we first started seeing eachother I thought that maybe my Leo ascendent could "keep up" with his need for "intellegent arm candy".

Good point though, Romeo and Juliet DID die :/

Thanks everyone!

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LionFish
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posted June 19, 2013 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you know his birth time you should go to astro.com and get your synastry and composite charts...

It honestly looks like (by sign) that you guys have a lot of compatibility... I just don't want to give you false hopes if he's already told you no...

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mir
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posted June 19, 2013 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was impressed by your placements Ltownboogie as my ex also had a Sun-Pisces/Asc-Leo/Moon-Taurus/Venus-Aqua/Jupiter-Aries (while Mars in late
GEM and Mercury in late Aqua), much the same!

I'm a Leo-Sun but that's the only thing I have in common with your guy.
Well, it *was* the 3rd (or maybe 2nd) real thing in my life but it didn't work out (17 months together is a long time for me).

I really think that his Sun/Neptune square (chartruler Sun & Sun-ruler Neptune!) spoiled a LOT in his chart as he had some strong addiction issues. Unfortunately.

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mir
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posted June 19, 2013 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've never met a Leo male who's mind was swayed once it was made up. Stubborn to a fault you might say...

Yea, you have to keep this in mind, knowing my leo-self.
I was also once on the "other side" where a Leo-guy kept telling me that "ONCE I would be his'!" Right up in his face I told him (more than once) "NO I will never be yours! you live in a dream!" Sure as i was.. fixed as him.. weird combo

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Ltownboogie
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posted June 24, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I've moved my heart off of this one. Now I am crushing on a Cancer. UGH, Cancer. This new guy has Cancer Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus. With a Mars Scorpio. Still analyzing our chemistry/synastry, if anyone has insight on this one....

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