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Topic: Hierophant in relationships
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Twirl
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posted June 24, 2013 07:25 AM
  
Hi, So how do you read the hierophant in regards to relationships? I know one of the traditional interpretations is to see it as a traditional commitment. However... More then often I see this card come up in the outcome position for couples that have secret affairs. Indicating that the lover will actually not commit to the 'extra' lover.
As an extra: I love it when the hierophant shows in its 'higher function', that of a teacher/well known institutions, but I hardly saw it in regards to love & upcoming weddings...
Does anyone want to share their experiences with hierophant? IP: Logged |
happyaskings
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posted June 24, 2013 11:43 AM
I've had this card come up once before in a relationship reading. It came up for my sisters (unfortunately current) boyfriend when they first started dating. What I found from it more so than he was "traditional" was that he was/is trying to emulate the relationship his parents have...yuck!IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted June 24, 2013 11:47 AM
Hey Happy  Thanks 4 sharing and interesting to read. Shame that your sisters current BF is rather much of a traditionalist...
Do you use RW as well?
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happyaskings
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posted June 24, 2013 12:03 PM
I have used RW, but its not my favorite deck. Lately I've been using the Wild Unknown...I find its very good for "soul-searching"/looking into oneself, which is something I've been doing a lot of recently. The Hierophant in that particular deck is very interesting. For the reading I did for my sister I believe I was using Hanson-Roberts.IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted June 24, 2013 12:17 PM
I can imagine with the Wild Unknown. It's very pretty!! It also has something haunting... (In an intriguing way).
I looked up the deck you used for your sister. They really seem to empathise on the tradition aspect here as well. I think that can really make a major difference in interpretation.
I noticed that hierophant in pagan orientated deck often empathise on the wisdom/spiritual master aspect more...
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beccathelion
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posted June 24, 2013 01:06 PM
He's come up once or twice in my readings as a man who was involved in AA/therapy programs, or as a spiritual teacher, like you said. The only difference for me is I've always felt there was a power dynamic with him that's a little bizarre. A manipulative give or take in a way. However, these were both readings for people with substance abuses, and while one woman did end up dating her sponsor... that's the only time he's ever shown up for me. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted June 24, 2013 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by beccathelion:
He's come up once or twice in my readings as a man who was involved in AA/therapy programs, or as a spiritual teacher, like you said.
Wow! This is really cool actually, hierophant showing for someone who is 'under restriction'.
Which deck do you use?
I know the Hierophant does have that unequal vibe to him, but I really like him in regards to the 'higher meaning'. For me it then shows as being able to make spirituality or religion insightful, because he also understands the world the people he teaches are still in. So a bit like the high priestess in a way, but she will remain silent, because she knows some knowledge is not yet understood. But the hierophant starts working within that knowledge the others have... Like a schoolteacher actually, lol. IP: Logged |
beccathelion
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posted June 24, 2013 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Twirl:
I know the Hierophant does have that unequal vibe to him, but I really like him in regards to the 'higher meaning'. For me it then shows as being able to make spirituality or religion insightful, because he also understands the world the people he teaches are still in.
Yeah. I've always been wary of him, I guess, but I like the way you put this. Like, he's still human, but has been blessed with the grace to help and the wisdom to navigate. I guess I grew up in a church system that was wacko bananas, so anytime I see a leader portrayed as religious, I get all bristled and nervous lol. But he is a good guy I think, you're right. I use the RW, but only because it just works for me. I've tried a few others, but the images and the subtext in the background illustrations always seem to speak louder to me in the RW than anything else. (I'm a writer too, so I like that there's room for 80 stories off one card just based on nuisances.) Like, for the Hierophant, the doubling all over that card... uh, be still my heart. Talk about a two sides of a coin, ying and yang, and every other metaphor ever. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted June 25, 2013 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by beccathelion:
Yeah. I've always been wary of him, I guess, but I like the way you put this. Like, he's still human, but has been blessed with the grace to help and the wisdom to navigate. I guess I grew up in a church system that was wacko bananas, so anytime I see a leader portrayed as religious, I get all bristled and nervous lol. But he is a good guy I think, you're right. I use the RW, but only because it just works for me. I've tried a few others, but the images and the subtext in the background illustrations always seem to speak louder to me in the RW than anything else. (I'm a writer too, so I like that there's room for 80 stories off one card just based on nuisances.) Like, for the Hierophant, the doubling all over that card... uh, be still my heart. Talk about a two sides of a coin, ying and yang, and every other metaphor ever.
Oh right, yes!, I hear you on that. I have a few friends who were also raised in a restrictive religious system who feel similar about any religious portrayal too. For me it doesn't feel that way, because I think in essence what people look for and find in it (hope, trust, love, etc), is all the same 4 all religions. It goes wrong when opinions and interpretations are being pushed... Oh well, just my take, lol. I will take in the traditional/more restrictive take on it more though... Because that's obviously also there. And yes! RW! Nice IP: Logged |
Sandra018
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posted June 30, 2013 06:52 PM
I got that card in a reading once regarding this coworker of mine that always flirts with me...he is involved and committed but he is interested in fooling around.
We were having this company function and I asked him who he was going with, to which he replied alone, I don't have anyone to bring. Well, he showed up with his gf ( I knew he had a gf to begin with, but was playing along lol).. so I m not sure if the card represents their commitment, or his interest in the extra curriculum activities lol ..IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted June 30, 2013 07:36 PM
It always shows up when someone is in a relationship for me. Lol, my natural symbols..I guess I read Tarot like fortunes :P. The meanings rarely change for me even if the images/different decks do. quote:
Originally posted by Sandra018:
I got that card in a reading once regarding this coworker of mine that always flirts with me...he is involved and committed but he is interested in fooling around.
We were having this company function and I asked him who he was going with, to which he replied alone, I don't have anyone to bring. Well, he showed up with his gf ( I knew he had a gf to begin with, but was playing along lol).. so I m not sure if the card represents their commitment, or his interest in the extra curriculum activities lol ..
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Emsie
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posted June 30, 2013 08:00 PM
The Hierophant showed up in one of my readings recently.I think it meant respect, because my previous love interest rejected me and I had to accept his decision. (But I think it also meant some kind of lesson, because I had to release some fears in order to at least get rejected by him... 'Lesson learned'  ) IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted June 30, 2013 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
It always shows up when someone is in a relationship for me.
Then, in my situation it could also mean that my previous love interest was really, really attached to his hobby/profession. He even told me that he was in love with dancing, lol  IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted June 30, 2013 08:40 PM
Not sure. Could be, but it doesn't really play out for me that way [=-. He was probably attached to his last long term relationship to consider being in a new relationship..(my experience with it it's always somehow this way) quote:
Originally posted by Emsie:
Then, in my situation it could also mean that my previous love interest was really, really attached to his hobby/profession. He even told me that he was in love with dancing, lol
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Twirl
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posted July 01, 2013 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by Emsie:
The Hierophant showed up in one of my readings recently.I think it meant respect, because my previous love interest rejected me and I had to accept his decision. (But I think it also meant some kind of lesson, because I had to release some fears in order to at least get rejected by him... 'Lesson learned' )
What position was it in? It can also refer to a platonic friendship and/or distance from the 'subject' or so it shows itself for me at times. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted July 01, 2013 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
It always shows up when someone is in a relationship for me. Lol, my natural symbols..I guess I read Tarot like fortunes :P. The meanings rarely change for me even if the images/different decks do.
Lol. Yes. I can see this too
For me it then shows in the combination with a secret affair where he will choose for his marriage.
On a side note: Lovers showed for me as a marriage (event) where the people obviously choose for each other saying 'yes'. Thought that was cute (honestly, no one else involved here). IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted July 01, 2013 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Twirl:
What position was it in? It can also refer to a platonic friendship and/or distance from the 'subject' or so it shows itself for me at times.
It was in the future position. And it turned out the way you described it above ^ IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted July 01, 2013 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Not sure. Could be, but it doesn't really play out for me that way [=-. He was probably attached to his last long term relationship to consider being in a new relationship..(my experience with it it's always somehow this way)
He also told me he wanted to be free, because he vowed not to date anyone after he broke up with his ex. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted July 01, 2013 06:51 AM
This is actually pretty cool (sorry, not talking about the outcome for you, that's not nice of course  ). But:
Outcome to be expected/advice in dealing with it: quote:
Originally posted by Twirl:
What position was it in? It can also refer to a platonic friendship and/or distance from the 'subject' or so it shows itself for me at times.
quote:
Originally posted by Emsie:
It was in the future position. And it turned out the way you described it above ^
The reason why this is happening: quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Not sure. Could be, but it doesn't really play out for me that way [=-. He was probably attached to his last long term relationship to consider being in a new relationship..(my experience with it it's always somehow this way)
quote:
Originally posted by Emsie:
He also told me he wanted to be free, because he vowed not to date anyone after he broke up with his ex.[/b]
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EmpressMendez
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posted July 01, 2013 10:13 AM
Hard to believe that about the Lovers Twirl  I wouldn't trust that card (poor person isn't probably aware of it, he/she will find out some day, or they could be in denial) Edit: Even if it's one of the subject's constantly thinking about another one/past love. It doesn't have to be a 'physical' presence Thanks Emsie for clarifying that ^_^. IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted July 01, 2013 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Twirl:
This is actually pretty cool (sorry, not talking about the outcome for you, that's not nice of course ). But:
Outcome to be expected/advice in dealing with it:
Actually, it was pretty correct and fair, I was totally okay with it. It wasn't hard to accept his decision. I really respect him for being honest and straightforward with me. I think I like this card. Or at least in this context and not a love interest being already married/spoken for, lol. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted July 02, 2013 05:08 AM
That's good to hear And yes, I'm personally quite a big fan of The Hierophant. But he mostly shows to me as his 'higher self' and the 'decent side' (teacher).
In (secret) relationships he seems to show himself to point out the man (it's really most men!) will choose his traditional life/wife. IP: Logged |
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