posted June 29, 2013 12:59 PM            

Her:
Sun-Scorpio
Moon-Scorpio
Venus-Scorpio
Mercury-Scorpio
Mars-Saggitarius
Jupiter-Scorpio
Saturn-Aquarius
Uranus-Capricorn
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorpio

Me:
Sun-Aries
Moon-Pisces
Venus-Pisces
Mercury-Aries
Mars-Pisces
Jupiter-Virgo
Saturn-Aquarius
Uranus-Capricorn
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorpio

posted June 29, 2013 01:55 PM            

I feel like it's not right to try to impose on those values, anyway. It's a karmic and spiritual block between you two. I would try to talk to her about how she feels about putting aside her upbringing and if she seems adamant about waiting, respect it and move on. From my experience, trying to force a relationship to work beyond serious familial and religious, etc. limitations is rarely ever going to bring harmony and peace.

If you want me to look at this more closely, can you go to astro.com and then do a pic of the synastry? I really need visuals to be accurate.

But it seems like just by looking at the written version of her natal that she comes from a family who does take certain traditions seriously and it probably seems weird to outsiders how these values are enforced so strongly onto the members of the family, like her. I once had a friend with a similar layout to this girl, except her Mars is in Leo [still fire though] and her family was weirdly seclusive, and over protective of her, and VERY religious - taking it to a whole new level. So I doubt that she's going to be able to shake off the values instilled in her since childhood from all that Scorpio energy going on, in her Moon and her other luminaries. No wonder she seemed intense... she's quite Plutonian!

Your Moon in Pisces likely meshes well with her Scorp Moon and you can dig her emotional intensity but likely not her dogma.

Mercury in Aries is pushy whatever what you look at it, Merc-Mars and Merc Aries is going to be bold at no matter what angle, and you probably are very open about questioning her dogma and her religious values. I feel like it's best to be cautious with this because Scorp Merc doesn't like open intrusions and obtrusive questions about deeply personal matters... be careful if you try to reconnect and explore her feelings. [Your] Venus in Pisces pines for people and can be obsessed with unreachable others and that worries me. Don't fall for this girl if there's a karmic block, don't let her be 'the one that got away' since the universe will open more doors for you somewhere out there.

posted July 02, 2013 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by CatMote:
thank you for the advice everyone! i will post a synastry chart in a minute.
i accept that shes very religious, in fact thats something that draws me towards her. im not asking her to compromise her upbringing (in fact, shes the most conservative of her family...so this leads me to believe tha something happened to her and she is using this dogma as protection).
i wouldnt mind waiting if i was actually in love with this girl, and in order to do that i need to date her! im very open, im willing to give it a shot. she loves the fact that i am not intimidated by her, and i am very open about her values as i believe people need values (doesnt matter what) in order to be morally strong.
thank you for the venus in pisces outlook. i actually think the universe is drawing me towards her. lol.
when we were seriously still talking, she definitely showed it. she said she wasnt ready for a serious relationship just yet. and i understand that, she is two grades below me and is just becoming a sophomore in college now while i am becoming a senior in college, so during her freshman year she was at a serious crossroads.

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Hmm, speaking as someone who is not only a female,but also has some similar astrological traits as her.(My sun is a cusp between scorpio/sag,my venus is in scorpio,my pluto is in scorpio, and my neptune is in scorpio) I have to say that,we are stubborn and you cannot make us do anything that we don't want to do (and if we manage to, its because we secretly just want to make people happy)

A couple of alarming thing's that made my spidey senses go up. If you think that something happened to her when she was younger, then you shouldn't be pursing ANYTHING more then what she is ready for. You shouldn't be pressuring, suggesting or "annoyed". If you can't handle that, then you need to keep it moving, I'm sure she will be just fine. It sounds like you were almost accusing her of hiding behind her religion, because something might have happened to her? At least to me that's the way it came out, there's no gentle way to say this but I hope you never utter that phrase again in your life. People's personal religious beliefs are not for anyone to judge, let alone to suggest its a front for something. Maybe her religion is the thing that helps her find peace with whatever situation she may or may not have happened to her.

Also, it's ironic that you said that you would be willing to wait for her to have sex for her if you were in love with her, but you would need to date her first. Hmmm, isn't that "tech" what your doing? Since your complaint is about the physical aspect of it, the scorpio in me wants to call b.s. In fact she probably senses something fishy about you as well.

The funny thing is, I love pisces people (so you have that going for you at least) but I remember when I was younger I very briefly dated an Aries guy (ironic, because I love & get along w/ Aries women so much) anyway Mr. Aries was pressuring me into something I wasn't physically ready for. I crap you not, him line was eerily similar to yours:"I would be willing to date you and be in a serious committed relationship with you, if we at least had sex first, I need to see how the sex would be w/ us first..." Luckily I didn't fall for it,and it was done after he saw I wasn't budging, but man I was always so happy I dodged a bullet.

posted July 02, 2013 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Victoria1123:
Ok, re-reading my previous post. I realize I may have been a wee-bit too harsh. I swear if wasn't coming from a "Aries screwed me over" type of place or a "I hate Aries type of place" (In fact my moon in in Aries lol) I get really over-protective of people who I feel like may have been hurt or are hurting and since you mentioned that something may have happened to her when she was younger, my need to want to help/protect people jumped out in full force, so I apologize.

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posted July 02, 2013 11:47 AM            

From what I see, communication is likely a major theme in this synastry. You are drawn to each other because you find so much similarities in each other. You don't feel like filtering conversations with each other because there is a certain understanding between you that doesn't exist with other people. You feel that her way of thinking very parallel to yours. However in relationships, I don't think she's the touchy-feely type and also tends to be cautious and cerebral. She tends to overanalyze, which impedes the expression of her true desires.

Also, a cluster of her planets on your 2nd house would probably indicate that desire to 'get physical' with her but her cautious nature tends to hold her back. That most likely is because of her religion.

Does that relate to you so far?

posted July 02, 2013 11:49 AM            

Ugh, I'm an a-hole!! lol! Open mouth and insert my big freakin' foot.

To make things worse, synastry and solar return chart's are the thing's that I am the worst at =( So, I can't even offer you any decent interpretations. Ugh, sorry. If I happen to see this thread going to far down though, I promise to periodically check in and give it a "bump" for you though.

posted July 02, 2013 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
What stood out to me first was her massive Scorpio stellium. WOW. Without even looking at the synastry itself, I could tell that you are VERY weak against her natural charm and magnetism. Throw in that sun-moon and venus-mars plus your stellium nicely aspecting her stellium, no wonder you feel intense.

From what I see, communication is likely a major theme in this synastry. You are drawn to each other because you find so much similarities in each other. You don't feel like filtering conversations with each other because there is a certain understanding between you that doesn't exist with other people. You feel that her way of thinking very parallel to yours. However in relationships, I don't think she's the touchy-feely type and also tends to be cautious and cerebral. She tends to overanalyze, which impedes the expression of her true desires.

Also, a cluster of her planets on your 2nd house would probably indicate that desire to 'get physical' with her but her cautious nature tends to hold her back. That most likely is because of her religion.

Does that relate to you so far?

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oh my gosh. lol. that hits it spot on. so, synastry wise, should i continue to try? weve been texting again and i get the feeling i should. should i trust myself?
and victoria...you are NOT an a hole. you stood up for what you believed in and i am glad you did. it reminded me not to be the pushy aries that i can get when i am frustrated. thank you for your bravery. i will update with whatever happens between her and i.