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orocairion
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posted July 18, 2013 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey all.

As I've mentioned a few times in a other threads, I'm interested in someone but things seem to be from hot to cold then back to hot(last time we met, we slept together) from time to time, but lately it has been driving me a bit crazy and I wanted to know what's going on with her, if she is interested in me as I am in her or if she is just playing games and if we are going anywhere.

Any help is appreciated and if you need any aditional info, let me know.

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beccathelion
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posted July 18, 2013 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by orocairion:
Hey all.

As I've mentioned a few times in a other threads, I'm interested in someone but things seem to be from hot to cold then back to hot(last time we met, we slept together) from time to time, but lately it has been driving me a bit crazy and I wanted to know what's going on with her, if she is interested in me as I am in her or if she is just playing games and if we are going anywhere.

Any help is appreciated and if you need any aditional info, let me know.


Hi! I just did a quick overview, asking what was going on between you two.

Current Situation: 3 of Cups (r)
Complimenting/conflicting factor: Emperor (r)
Reason for situation: Knight of Cups

Relevant past: King of Swords
How you feel about situation: Page of Swords
Immediate Present: 9 of Cups

How you feel about yourself: 5 of Wands (r)
Environment: 9 of Wands
Advice: Temperance (r)
Outcome: Ace of Pentacles (r) (with a clarifying card of 3 of Pentacles [r])

So... was she in a relationship? Or were you when you met? The 3 of Cups in a love spread often means infidelity for me or 3's a crowd. Reversed, it's like a two for one. Someone extra is in the picture, and there's a lot of angst. No joy. No celebrations. Cross with the Emperor reversed tells me that there really are no traditions or rules being followed whatsoever. It's sort of a free-for-all... there's no real established order, which makes sense given your description of the issue. All of this stems from the Knight of Cups, which is often the card of proposals or propositions regarding the romantic. If I had to put a pin it, you really like this girl. More than perhaps you want to let on. I don't mean to say that you are gobsmacked, but I think there's a weird tingle in you that thinks, "There's a future here." Also, apologies, but I'm operating under the assumption that you're a man, given all the male cards (however, with my homosexual friends and my brother... the energies are always reversed. He always ends up with feminine cards, and my lesbian friends get male cards... but anyway! I didn't want you to think I was gender pigeonholing anyone.)

The Knight I think might feel a little weird for you; the King of Swords in the past is a man who is not really emotional. He's composed, often cold, and extremely rationale. This doesn't make him a bad person, but just not the kind of guy who buys a girl flowers. I think this is a stark change for you, and while the Knight once reared his head... you're reverting back to the Page of Swords. He's slowly looking for truth. He's slowly working up to just coming out and saying, "What's going on?" You're toeing the water with this situation. You don't want to get hurt (who does?), and you're being cautious. However, the 9 of Cups in the present says you are wishing against wishes that she wants to be with you. The 9 is a wish card and a powerful one at that, given that it's directly tied to our emotions and the power that they wield.

The 5 of Wands reversed though tells me you are tired. Exhausted even of putting work into something that isn't yielding any real rewards. This coupled with the 9 of Wands says to me you are tired of feeling like the odd man out. Starting to get a little bitter, and that's okay. I would too. There's also suspicion mounting that she has someone else on the side (even if you guys aren't together, all these wands and swords make me think you might be a little possessive -- not in a bad way).

The advice is Temperance reversed, which to me says... stop. Really look at the situation for what it is and listen to your gut. There's an imbalance in this dynamic between you two... and it's only getting worse. The outcome regardless is the Ace of Pentacles with the 3 of Pentacles, both reversed. Aces are always the start of things, and pentacles in love spreads are always indicative of a "growing together" relationship. Not the Lancelot + Guinevere kind, but rather... the Ben Affleck and Jen Garner kind. He caught a lot of flack for saying marriage was "hard work," but in truth, it is. It's a job, and so the Ace here would signal to me the start of that kind of lasting commitment. Reversed though... it isn't. The 3 of Pentacles is the teamwork card. I see it a lot in love spreads where people just click like units. Again... I don't see this either.

Sorry to be a downer I hope this helps. I just really get the sense that she's in cat mode. Play with the string for a minute, then onto the next adventure. It sucks (trust me, I've been the string more times than I can count)... but it'll get better. Temperance is a major card, and major cards show up when we have a karmic lesson to learn. This was/is important for you to go through.

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orocairion
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posted July 19, 2013 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot for the reply.

quote:
So... was she in a relationship? Or were you when you met? The 3 of Cups in a love spread often means infidelity for me or 3's a crowd. Reversed, it's like a two for one. Someone extra is in the picture, and there's a lot of angst. No joy. No celebrations.

We met years ago, and we have been friend in an on-and-off way. We would be in contact with each other for a while and then stop contact. Mostly because she lived far away back then.

Nowadays, I don't have any idea at all since she hasn't made any mention of having someone else. But her attitude at times has made me suspect there might be a third person.

quote:
Also, apologies, but I'm operating under the assumption that you're a man, given all the male cards

Yeah, I'm a guy. No worries.

quote:
However, the 9 of Cups in the present says you are wishing against wishes that she wants to be with you. The 9 is a wish card and a powerful one at that, given that it's directly tied to our emotions and the power that they wield.


Could you explain the "wishing against wishes that the she wants to be with you"?.
You mean, like some sort of self-sabotage?.

quote:
Sorry to be a downer I hope this helps. I just really get the sense that she's in cat mode. Play with the string for a minute, then onto the next adventure. It sucks (trust me, I've been the string more times than I can count)... but it'll get better.

It's ok, I kind of expected not-so-good news the way things were going. And yeah, I've been there before, too. My previous attempt with someone ended up being a horrible experience with the backlashes of it sending me to a hospital later on.

Probably asking to much, but its there any way or possibility of reversing the trend shown in the final cards and making things work?

Again, thanks a lot!.

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orocairion
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posted July 21, 2013 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump in case beccathelion is around, or anyone else wants to chime in.

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Jessica2407
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posted July 21, 2013 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by orocairion:
Hey all.

As I've mentioned a few times in a other threads, I'm interested in someone but things seem to be from hot to cold then back to hot(last time we met, we slept together) from time to time, but lately it has been driving me a bit crazy and I wanted to know what's going on with her, if she is interested in me as I am in her or if she is just playing games and if we are going anywhere.

Any help is appreciated and if you need any aditional info, let me know.


Are you emotional about her? do you view her as someone highly charming,full of life?

I think you are.

But I got a yes,she is playing games with you.

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orocairion
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posted July 21, 2013 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'm a bit emotional over her but thankfully the distance there is between us(we move in completely different circles and only get to see each other when we go out) has helped in avoiding getting attached to her.

That, and as said previously, I've tried to be overly cautious over things.

Thanks a lot. I guess I know what needs to be done.

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Jessica2407
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posted July 22, 2013 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by orocairion:
Yes, I'm a bit emotional over her but thankfully the distance there is between us(we move in completely different circles and only get to see each other when we go out) has helped in avoiding getting attached to her.

That, and as said previously, I've tried to be overly cautious over things.

Thanks a lot. I guess I know what needs to be done.


Am very new to tarot however. Do not base your future actions on my reading!You got to use your guts too!

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andstuff
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posted July 22, 2013 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gee, for a moment i thought someone might be talking about me.... i've been this kinda girl with someone, years ago, lived far away and all

whatever. my belief is that these stories prove never-ending for a reason. there's heaps of pain but also moments of sweetness no one else can furnish. at some point you just realise arriving at a denouement is not the point

wish i had a deck on me, but i don't at the mo T_T anyway, becca is cool, so no need to be de trop

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beccathelion
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posted July 22, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by orocairion:
Thanks a lot for the reply.

Probably asking to much, but its there any way or possibility of reversing the trend shown in the final cards and making things work?

Again, thanks a lot!.


So I asked what can be done to make it work, and if it is done, what will the outcome be:

What to do: 9 of Swords (r), King of Wands (r)
What will happen if you do those things: The Fool (r), the Devil (r), 7 of Swords

So for me, this pointedly says in order to make it "work" between you two, which is a subjective term to be sure -- you have to stop letting her activities bother you, and you have to start being a self-centered, manipulative man. Basically, become someone who only wants what they want, Universe be damned. I think the sheer fact that you asked for a tarot reading shows you do have some spirituality. Basically, turn your back on that.

If you do, there won't be any new journeys to take, any new karmic roads to head down, and you will trap yourself tenfold in a situation that isn't good for you. You will literally be chaining yourself to a path that has no avenues for growth or future joy and expansion. The 7 also tells me that you will be getting something that you aren't supposed to have... you'll be superseding what the Universe has in store for you.

So yes, you can make it work. We all have the choice to do what we want, but to me this says the cost will be much, much higher than the yield.

Now, I went ahead and pulled for if you DON'T pursue this woman, what will happen in 3 months:

10 of Pents (r)
8 of Cups (r)
8 of Pents
7 of Cups (r)
4 of Wands

Where once you were unsettled and refusing to move on from something that was emotionally unsettling, you're now working towards something productive, both in yourself and in your life. This is about getting you back to you. You won't be suffering under the yoke of illusions, or choices that seem sweet but are truly sour, and not only that... the 4 of Wands almost 100% comes up for me as a marriage card/meeting someone who would be a spouse.

Because the card is alone, it may be you meet someone who has that POTENTIAL. Someone who you see and think, "Wow, where have you been my whole life?" I can't promise it'll work out, but in 3 months, I see you being excited. Celebrating, and I do think you'll meet someone who just sets you ablaze in the best of ways.

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orocairion
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posted July 23, 2013 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Am very new to tarot however. Do not base your future actions on my reading!You got to use your guts too!

My gut instinct can be pretty unreliable thanks to my nifty Sun-Neptune conjunction, lol.

Then again, I've had that feeling for a while since the situations are similar to a past traumatic experience with someone else.

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Originally posted by andstuff:

whatever. my belief is that these stories prove never-ending for a reason. there's heaps of pain but also moments of sweetness no one else can furnish. at some point you just realise arriving at a denouement is not the point




True, but it can get old after a while of having to deal with the same stuff even with completely different people, lol.

quote:
Originally posted by beccathelion:
So I asked what can be done to make it work, and if it is done, what will the outcome be:

Again, thanks a lot!. Really apreciate the clarification and the extra reading. I guess there isn't much left to be done, then.

Thank you all for the input.

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