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beccathelion
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posted August 06, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys. I'll trade somebody a Celtic cross if they could take a look at this chart and tell me what it means. I've tried teaching myself, how to read horary, but... well yeah. I've not succeeded.

I mean, because this is technically "higher learning," it'd be the 9th house? Right. So then I would want to look at the 9th house ruler's relationship to the Moon and first house, since I'm asking the question??

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posted August 06, 2013 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what is your question? Oh I see.
But what does the workshop mean for you? Fun? Work? A chance for education/ learning?
Where do YOU put the emphasis?


Your main significator is Venus (as ruler of 1st house).
And the co-significator is Moon (which is also about the course of the question).


Venus is in Virgo in 11th house.
Venus is in fall - so a weakened position.
At the same time however 18 Virgo is in triplicity (day-chart) and face of Venus.
This should strengthen her position a little bit, though I don`t know if it outweighs the fall-position.
Here it could mean that you are uber-critical with yourself, and that blocks you from something.


Moon is in Leo where it is peregrine, with not much power to act.
It is totally ruled by Sun, and as a matter of fact is conjunct Sun, combust. Which to some people is a negative thing.
I have rather seen it as Moon being totally overwhelmed with the power of the Sun (your hopes and wishes, even strenghtened as Venus is IN 11th house as well).
Can it be that you want to get into that workshop SO much but somehow you feel like you are powerless to make it happen, unless someone lets you in?


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posted August 06, 2013 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will I get into the Workshop?

So, right now it would be academic, but it does have the potential to yield a job after a year. But it's also an exclusive workshop that only takes 10 people out of like... 1000. So it could also be an award/honor? So 10th house?? :/

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posted August 06, 2013 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let?s start with the 9th house symbolism for nwo.

(but yes with Sun-Moon in 10th house the award/ honour thing makes much sense, esp. in Leo)


Mercury rules the 9th house and is int he sign of the Moon - which of course is very positive. Like the workshop itself is interested in getting you there. Or someone there.
However Mercury will make no aspect to Venus nor to Moon, so that would incline the answer rather to a No. At least for now.


Iīd say from this chart the answer is more likely No
But keep in mind I have more experiences in relationship-horaries, than these. So maybe ask for a second opinion there.

EDIT
10th house isnīt too positive either. The ruler is Moon, but it doesn`t aspect your significator Venus.
(if Moon is main significator for the quesited, it cannot be significator for the querent at the same time).

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posted August 06, 2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay! Well, it is what it is. I won't even hear back until late September... maybe something magical will change. But probably not

Thanks for your help. Can I read some cards for you? It'll have to be a bit later today (I'm not near them), but I'd be happy to!

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posted August 06, 2013 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I would be very thankful.

Do you need a question?
Well, can I also have a general one about my love-life for the next 4 weeks?

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posted August 06, 2013 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I would be very thankful.

Do you need a question?
Well, can I also have a general one about my love-life for the next 4 weeks?


Sure, I can do a general. No problem at all Gimme a few hours, and then it'll be up.

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posted August 06, 2013 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

But keep in mind I have more experiences in relationship-horaries, than these. So maybe ask for a second opinion there.


While I think Ceri's completely right, maybe just one more opinion? To cement in the fact that I'm doomed.

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posted August 06, 2013 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beccathelion:

While I think Ceri's completely right, maybe just one more opinion? To cement in the fact that I'm doomed.

Thank you. and you are not doomed.
I could be wrong.
Or something could happen that will change the outcome.

A horary only indicates the outcome if things are going as they are planned now. Maybe you need to do something else, or more, to get in there?

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posted August 06, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you. and you are not doomed.
I could be wrong.
Or something could happen that will change the outcome.

A horary only indicates the outcome if things are going as they are planned now. Maybe you need to do something else, or more, to get in there?


Maybe. Lol. I hope so!!! But hey, the Universe goes how it goes for a reason. If I don't get it, I wasn't supposed to, ya know? C'est la vie

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posted August 12, 2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Well, can I also have a general one about my love-life for the next 4 weeks?

Okay!! I am soooo sorry this took so long to do. I've just been really busy with work and whatnot. I apologize whole-heartedly, but here you go!!!

Current Situation: 8 of Swords
Conflicting/Complimenting factor: the Fool
Reason for Situation: the Magician

Relevant past: 2 of Cups (r)
How you feel about situation: the Emperor
Immediate present: 5 of Pentacles (r)

How you feel about yourself: 6 of Cups (r)
Environment: 10 of Pentacles
Advice: 10 of Wands
Probable future: 3 of Wands (r) with a clarifier of Strength

So what I pick up mostly is a lot of fear. Is there someone in your life, new, that you fancy quite a lot? Like, can see yourself with for a long time... I say that, because there's also a whitewash of small encouragement built into these cards as well. I'm scared, but I want... so MAYBE I should try. The 8 is about the fear of making past mistakes, but crossed with the Fool, you want to try. The Magician says it's because you see something there that you could have; something that appeals to all things in you: rational, emotional, etc.

In the past, something went wrong relationship wise I think. 2 of Cups (r). Did somebody move out or did the split feel like a divorce? This is affecting how you feel about things now. While the more playful, desirous side of you wants to go be the Fool, fear and self-preservation have you taking a more tradition approach. The Emperor. Rules to be followed. Maybe even the Rules for dating? I feel like there are lists involved.
The 5 of Pentacles (r) also suggests to me, though, that you're again getting tired of being left outside of the magic that is relationships. I don't mean your garden variety; we're talking the forever kind. So there's a real push and pull between fear and desire, which I honestly think is a good thing. A little bit of caution before the leap is never bad, and honestly, what are our past mistakes if not blueprints for the next round?

The 6 reversed tells me you still aren't ready to bear your soul yet. Playing it a little close to the chest in all regards, which is okay, but you should know that the environment and advice are both 10 cards. And both wonderful ones at that. The environment now is offering up security and promise. A bank bond for the future that is sure to bring prosperity and comfort... something good. The advice is to just overthrow and push through this last trial. This last slice of doubt that you have. It's not the 10 of Swords, which asks you to abandon the fear completely; the wands ask you to work through it actively. Feel it as it happens and talk yourself through it. Push onward.

The outcome is the 3 of Wands (r) which says to me in the next month you aren't going to meet your future spouse and KNOW right off the bat. No wedding planning or plans to move in. But Strength tells me to stick with it. This person, that I think there might be. Just because the surface doesn't offer a guarantee, doesn't mean the nougat center won't.

Hope this helps. At the very least, even if there isn't a person in your sights right now, I think this is saying be open to one. There are 4 majors in this spread; they show up when we have a debt to pay and a lesson to learn to help us grow karmically both in this life and the next. I say, embrace this time with open arms. Good luck, and again, I am soooo sorry this took so long. I was going on a lot of job interviews (I think I got one!! Yay!!) and I was just not in a good place to read. Hope this helps and lots of love <3

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posted August 12, 2013 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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