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vesta
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posted September 03, 2013 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Red shoes, yes I think I do have a sun, Neptune aspect I believe it is a trine though it is wide. Sun is at 5 Aries and Neptune is at 12 sag.

Anyway, you are right my children come first but when it happened I was so hurt that I felt like my kids had stabbed me in the back it was hard for me to even look at them. I know that sounds awful but those were the emotions I had for good or bad. I have forgiven my children I believe and now am trying to deal with the fact that my love is not coming back. I just have to come to terms with it and move on with my life. The hard thing is I may always feel an emptiness in me because I know who my true love is and know that he is not with me. I think the knowing is harder than not knowing.

Anyway looking to the future there looks like a new love will be coming into my life he is a water sign, very kind caring and generous. The king of cups keeps popping up for the future. And I think he will make me happy for the most part and hopefully love me, understand what I have been through and be patient with me.

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posted September 03, 2013 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just did a CC for myself,

1 night of cups the querent
2 the lovers the immediate
3 9 of cups the past
4 king of pentacles immediate past
5 6 of swords. Higher possibilities
6 king of swords immediate future
7 9 of swords rx general factors
8 3 of hearts rx the material
9 temperance hopes and fears
10 6 of cups Outcome
6 of pentacles
King of cups

Now my husband is hounding me about taking depression medication and how if he doesn't see me getting any better he wants to put me back in the hospital for mental treatment.( that is what he did when my soulmate left me to try and keep me away from him) the angel told me to leave and go to him but they held me back and would not let me leave. He thinks it was all in my mind and not real. When I am trying to come to terms with loosing the love of my life. Praying that something or someone will appear and help me cause I just don't know what to do anymore.

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posted September 03, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:
I was thinking last night and I believe that the soulmate who came for me was my one and only. My one true love because looking back there were signs and confirmations. But I think now that he just is not able to overcome the misunderstanding between us and is not coming back for me. To be honest it truly breaks my heart I had more faith in him than that. However I know that the angels are sending a new love into my life one who will be kind and generous. I don't know if he will be a soulmate. I hope he is as I truly want a loving soulmate relationship in my life. It is just really hard to imagine that my true love would just leave me here in pain knowing deep within all I had gone through for him.
I believed in him so much and I feel let down. But have decided to look toward the future with a new love coming into my life hopefully soon.

Just wanted to vent and share, vesta


Vesta, have I understood correctly? The man you refer to as George is the one you believe to be your true love. And you haven't actually met him but have only been informed of him in visions and dreams. If so, please explain what 'misunderstanding' you are referring to.

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vesta
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posted September 03, 2013 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I went into the house to get the baby.
When I should have gone to the car as being prompted to do by the angels. The baby would have been ok for a min or two. And he left before I got back out the door. I guess I thought that maybe he feels that I just don't want him even though that was not true. And so now he doesn't want me.

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redshoes
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posted September 03, 2013 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmm by reading your comments Vesta, i feel it may be a good thing for your true love to be YOU for a while (by looking outward for this i sense you wont attract the healthiest of men)?

Kids stab us all the time and treat us badly, there is no need to even think about forgiving them, its part of being a mother. That is what unconditional love is....it only happens between a mother and her child as far as i know?

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posted September 03, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You're in serious need of mental help, at least your husband is sane enough to realize that.

All what you're seeing and experiencing is nothing but hallucination.

Could you at least think of the people you're hurting in the process of finding " this soulmate" of yours ??

Get real ! and wake up !!!You are taking things so FAR ! Just be grateful for what you have

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posted September 03, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadly, we can resist becoming too real when things are tough in life. I was a bit way this myself, but it was before i became a mother thankfully.

Vesta are you able to get some kind of healing/therapy which would help you to become a little more whole again

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posted September 03, 2013 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshoes:
Sadly, we can resist becoming too real when things are tough in life. I was a bit way this myself, but it was before i became a mother thankfully.

Vesta are you able to get some kind of healing/therapy which would help you to become a little more whole again


Redshoes, this isn't normal nor healthy. She NEEDS help. She's bordering on obsessive

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posted September 03, 2013 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silver,

We can only get help if we admit it to ourselves that we need it

Ya know?

Otherwise, it probably wont happen?

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posted September 03, 2013 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diplopoda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone who focuses alot on spiritual stuff need mental help 😕

I remembered I did a read for vests that said George would bail out with an excuse after feeling awkward. It's not the be all and end all. There's still time. And she shd focus on her own life and childern

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posted September 03, 2013 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshoes:
Silver,

We can only get help if we admit it to ourselves that we need it

Ya know?

Otherwise, it probably wont happen?


It saddens me to see people like this, becoming a victim to their own minds and illusions.
I truly feel sorry for her husband and children

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posted September 03, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Diplopoda:
Everyone who focuses alot on spiritual stuff need mental help 😕

I remembered I did a read for vests that said George would bail out with an excuse after feeling awkward. It's not the be all and end all. There's still time. And she shd focus on her own life and childern


Of course he will ! She isn't even mentally healthy ! I just hope it won't be too late when she does.

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posted September 03, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
It saddens me to see people like this, becoming a victim to their own minds and illusions.
I truly feel sorry for her husband and children

whats husband and children compared to spiritual hunger? should it be put on the shelf to make them comfy? how fair would that be? just saying that is hardly a reason to do anything.


Vesta, what I think is you might wanna re-consider what exactly is going on? Plus I got completely lost, have you met G? Has he met you? Does he know you exist? Is there really no way you can seek him out? let's break it into small questions perhaps? here goes no.1: why are you so fixated? why do you believe G crucial to your happiness?

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posted September 03, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only reason you are being so insensitive is because you have never lost such a great love and known the true pain it brings it is devastating.

I admit that I need someone to talk to about how I feel and try to heal and become whole again. I love my children and need them in my life

You have no idea what it feel like and the thing you should remember is karma will come back to kick you in the but next time you are suffering from something be it in this life or the next you are going to run into insensitive people like yourself.

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posted September 03, 2013 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Andstuff,

No, that was when we were supposed to meet. I had been having dreams about him coming for the past 7 years and felt the longing for him I believe that is why I went through death and rebirth. To clear away the old and make room for him in my heart. Though, death and rebirth is very painful at times when clearing things out and coming to find out that the person you trusted was deceiving you. As far as G goes I am not so much fixated as hurt by his actions because I have put so much faith in him and waiting for such a long time for him. I don't know if he is crucial to my happiness but it feel like a part of me is missing without him.

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posted September 03, 2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, now imagine he is not as perceptive as you, has had no visions or anything. he probably doesn't even know he needs you. surely he cannot be blamed for not coming for you?

he's only a man, right? even if he feels the longing, how on earth would he know what to look for to deal with it?

do you want to talk? because I don't mind, let's try this, I'll be asking you questions and you'll be answering, maybe you'll be able to work out a solution for yourself?

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posted September 03, 2013 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you have never met George Vesta???

What was that stuff about you leaving your baby in the car for a couple of mins and him leaving?

Trying to help here, but it all seems rather *blurred*

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posted September 03, 2013 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes as i said above too andstuff...

*he is just a man*

men sometimes dont know how to be soulmates...the biggest connections i have had in my life are with my self and child

men are more errmm *earthy*

as a rule?

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posted September 03, 2013 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:
When I went into the house to get the baby.
When I should have gone to the car as being prompted to do by the angels. The baby would have been ok for a min or two. And he left before I got back out the door. I guess I thought that maybe he feels that I just don't want him even though that was not true. And so now he doesn't want me.

This ^^^ *he left* ~ ?

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posted September 03, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I never met him yet that was when we were supposed to meet.

My baby and daughter who was supposed to be watching the baby were in the house .

I got up from the chair on porch to go to car but heard baby cry. So I went inside to baby to see what was wrong and saw daughter left him alone. I picked him up walked over to window and looked outside at car. Heard angels say they are here go to the car. Then it hit me who was here I put baby down went to the door and as I was about to turn the knob he left. Remember that when soulmates meet for the first time there is lost of confusion going on it is a shock and when angels are talking in your ear it sets off inner ear balance making you dizzy. So I had all that going on and trying to get to him at same time.

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posted September 03, 2013 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if someone were to tell you it is
a part of you that is missing, that you
are meant to heal and make whole first,
could you work around that?

The danger is if you carry on this way,you
could become deluded for a long time....i am
not judging you here, but it could go on and
on for a long time. Becoming whole takes us
to a place of not needing to reach outwards for
love

Would you like to try and aim for that?

I have been doing that for some time and i
feel its beginning to work

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posted September 03, 2013 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I no I need to heal from this and try to get past it but I was deluding myself into thinking he would come back and just came to the realization today that he is not coming back. So it was like a knife to my heart but what I needed in order to heal and put it behind me as best I can.

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posted September 03, 2013 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i say deluded because when we are not
feeling whole, we can become vulnerable
and go on to have the *eternal search*
the part missing that makes us whole. I
dont actually believe anyone can do that
for us, especially a man! i tried it a
few times

didnt work

but i am now not needy for a soulmate
as i know i am whole and healthy and have
become more real

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posted September 03, 2013 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
vesta

i had a close friend who is a very accomplished
astrologer. she said she had never seen a chart so hellbent on finding a soulmate, so
for me it has been a huge challenge to become
whole and real...but it can be done

men are men...you know? different from women and often not very aware of the soulmate thing

i notice you typed the word *deluding* myself....you are becoming real already

well done!

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posted September 03, 2013 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I was feeling the need to move on in my life and was thinking about going back to school overseas.
So I could get a job and leave husband then all the sudden soulmate shows up and throws everything off balance. I would have been fine it we had been together or if he had just not come at all it would have been better than him showing up and then leaving me ripping my heart out and leaving me to pick up the pieces.

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