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Topic: Marriage Chart Reading - Help needed
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astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 07:10 AM
Can someone help read this chart with regards to marriage placements - Juno , Venus, the type of spouse, when will he get marriage, and if there is a second marriage or affair etc and when..this is a guy's chart by the way. TIAIP: Logged |
astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 08:14 AM
Here is the chart..anyone expert can help
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 6055 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 01, 2013 09:59 AM
Do you know that person, astrolog? A bit of background information would be useful. What were his past relationships like?This chart looks kinda problematic for long-term relationships, let alone marriage. Could possibly point to several marriages or a divorce, or no marriage at all. Reason is that Moon is in conflict with Venus, Mars and Saturn - it won't be easy to feel emotionally satisfied. Venus and Mars oppose Uranus on the 11th/5th house axis - pointing to possible affairs, or a relationship full of space or obstacles (Venus and Mars square Saturn). Maybe his partner won't be very reliable, especially since the DSC ruler Jupiter resides in the 12th of hidden enemies and opposes Neptune, the planet of deceit... I know this is sounding really bad, sorry for the negative interpretation, but a lot of things point to dissatisfying relationships. It doesn't mean he will never be happy or find someone, maybe he just needs change more than other people, and has some baggage to deal with.
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astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 10:08 AM
Hello this.is actually my good friend. He has 2 kids and a wife but has been working overseas for 4 years and argues with his wife quite a bit..disagreements..He has known her since 16 and married her at 27But what you said does not really describe him though..he seems like a really big believer in being loyal and family man..
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Do you know that person, astrolog? A bit of background information would be useful. What were his past relationships like?This chart looks kinda problematic for long-term relationships, let alone marriage. Could possibly point to several marriages or a divorce, or no marriage at all. Reason is that Moon is in conflict with Venus, Mars and Saturn - it won't be easy to feel emotionally satisfied. Venus and Mars oppose Uranus on the 11th/5th house axis - pointing to possible affairs, or a relationship full of space or obstacles (Venus and Mars square Saturn). Maybe his partner won't be very reliable, especially since the DSC ruler Jupiter resides in the 12th of hidden enemies and opposes Neptune, the planet of deceit... I know this is sounding really bad, sorry for the negative interpretation, but a lot of things point to dissatisfying relationships. It doesn't mean he will never be happy or find someone, maybe he just needs change more than other people, and has some baggage to deal with.
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 6055 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 01, 2013 10:11 AM
See, that's why I needed background info.The Uranus oppositions describe the distance and inability to see his family, while the Saturn squares show his frustrations about the situation. Makes total sense.. And I can see how he would be loyal because he has personal planets in loyal signs - Cancer, Taurus and Scorpio! So in his case, the external circumstances are against him. What about his wife? Is she faithful? I think there's a change she might stray but it's not absolute, of course. IP: Logged |
astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 10:18 AM
Yup she is the totally loyal possessive type but always disagress with him. So it can be concluded he is not the disloyal type am i right and wont have an affair nor second marriage
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: See, that's why I needed background info.The Uranus oppositions describe the distance and inability to see his family, while the Saturn squares show his frustrations about the situation. Makes total sense.. And I can see how he would be loyal because he has personal planets in loyal signs - Cancer, Taurus and Scorpio! So in his case, the external circumstances are against him. What about his wife? Is she faithful? I think there's a change she might stray but it's not absolute, of course.
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 6055 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 01, 2013 10:23 AM
I see.Well, to be honest, I still think there's a chance the marriage will dissolve. Because Uranus opposes Venus/Mars, Sagittarius is on the ASC and Jupiter is in Gemini, opposes Neptune. There are many indicators that show multiple marriages or a divorce. It's not set in stone, of course. He may go through some difficult times right now as transiting outer planets are bombarding his chart.. Saturn conjunct natal Uranus, transiting Uranus and Pluto in hard aspect to natal Pluto.. But if his marriage is solid, they'll be fine! IP: Logged |
astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 10:38 AM
I am sure they will be fine since they have been together for so long  Can you read another chart for me? quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: I see.Well, to be honest, I still think there's a chance the marriage will dissolve. Because Uranus opposes Venus/Mars, Sagittarius is on the ASC and Jupiter is in Gemini, opposes Neptune. There are many indicators that show multiple marriages or a divorce. It's not set in stone, of course. He may go through some difficult times right now as transiting outer planets are bombarding his chart.. Saturn conjunct natal Uranus, transiting Uranus and Pluto in hard aspect to natal Pluto.. But if his marriage is solid, they'll be fine!
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 6055 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 01, 2013 10:42 AM
I hope so.Sure, while we're at it, haha. IP: Logged |
astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 10:49 AM
Thanks again Doux. quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: I hope so.Sure, while we're at it, haha.
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 6055 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 01, 2013 10:54 AM
You're welcome.Mind giving me some details about this person? So far looks like it's someone who values relationships a lot and has a lot to learn from them. I'd say it's a pretty reliable person. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 6055 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 01, 2013 10:56 AM
On second thought.. they have Sun in a T-square with Uranus and Jupiter - that indicates a great need for freedom. They probably don't like feeling trapped in any way.IP: Logged |
astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 11:12 AM
Its my best friend. She really needs relationships to feel complete but somehow keeps meeting the wrong person..and she is stupid enough to spend money (alot) on them even though they are financially better off than her..which is a bit strange. And is always being made used of in terms of money are any where in the chart that indicate that and how can she help it? She is always in dilemma she always wants a boyfriend but when she actually thinks she gets one she is afraid to commit. She is afraid she will not marry because of her Saturn conjunct Juno hence my Juno question earlier in  Can you see these in her chart and what else? quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: You're welcome.Mind giving me some details about this person? So far looks like it's someone who values relationships a lot and has a lot to learn from them. I'd say it's a pretty reliable person.
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astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 11:31 AM
Let me know if you can see any of what i said in the chart thanks doux you are such a dear 
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: On second thought.. they have Sun in a T-square with Uranus and Jupiter - that indicates a great need for freedom. They probably don't like feeling trapped in any way.
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 6055 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 01, 2013 11:49 AM
All right, so the giving too much in relationships is Venus (ruler of the 8th) in Cancer (a nurturing sign) opposite Mars in Capricorn (ruler of the DSC) - she basically "uses" her resources way too much (opposition) in relationships (connected to the 7th house ruler). And of course, her Moon in Taurus (natural provider) is in the 8th of shared resources and makes easy aspects to both Venus and Mars - which makes it "natural" for her to use her resources on her intimate partners. Venus also rules her ASC so she's quite a giver (Libra ASC /Moons or Venuses often get taken advantage of).She needs to use her discriminating skills more and maybe get advice if she can't see a situation clearly (Mercury opposite Neptune can have foggy thinking sometimes). The fact that she wants a relationships but is afraid to commit makes perfect sense - her Sun makes hard aspects to freedom-loving planets - Uranus and Jupiter - and it's also in Gemini! But one very important thing also is that her South Node is in the 1st house - she is naturally afraid of losing her independence and become someone's "possession". The North Node shows where we should be going and what can make us satisfied in this life - her happens to be in the 7th (obviously opposite the SN) so relationships are attractive to her, for sure. There's no doubt that she needs a partner to express her full potential. So she needs to learn how to balance "self" VS "other" and independence VS commitment. It's probably not as difficult as it may seem, but there are challenges on the way because it's unknown territory to her, she's kinda scared of it. If she meets someone who puts planets in her 7th and conjuncts her NN, she may change her mind about commitment.  Hope this helps! And you're welcome. =) IP: Logged |
astrolog Knowflake Posts: 195 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 01, 2013 11:49 PM
Doux based on the chart, what kind of partner will she marry and at what age? Juno conjunction Saturn usually grants a fairly late marriage am I right? quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: All right, so the giving too much in relationships is Venus (ruler of the 8th) in Cancer (a nurturing sign) opposite Mars in Capricorn (ruler of the DSC) - she basically "uses" her resources way too much (opposition) in relationships (connected to the 7th house ruler). And of course, her Moon in Taurus (natural provider) is in the 8th of shared resources and makes easy aspects to both Venus and Mars - which makes it "natural" for her to use her resources on her intimate partners. Venus also rules her ASC so she's quite a giver (Libra ASC /Moons or Venuses often get taken advantage of).She needs to use her discriminating skills more and maybe get advice if she can't see a situation clearly (Mercury opposite Neptune can have foggy thinking sometimes). The fact that she wants a relationships but is afraid to commit makes perfect sense - her Sun makes hard aspects to freedom-loving planets - Uranus and Jupiter - and it's also in Gemini! But one very important thing also is that her South Node is in the 1st house - she is naturally afraid of losing her independence and become someone's "possession". The North Node shows where we should be going and what can make us satisfied in this life - her happens to be in the 7th (obviously opposite the SN) so relationships are attractive to her, for sure. There's no doubt that she needs a partner to express her full potential. So she needs to learn how to balance "self" VS "other" and independence VS commitment. It's probably not as difficult as it may seem, but there are challenges on the way because it's unknown territory to her, she's kinda scared of it. If she meets someone who puts planets in her 7th and conjuncts her NN, she may change her mind about commitment.  Hope this helps! And you're welcome. =)
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