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Topic: Horary Chart help.. Did I get her pregnant?
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TheYellowKid
Newflake Posts: 12
From: Sirius
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 20, 2013 10:54 PM
  
So I have been doing a lot of study on astrology specifically natal and just memorizing everything, I have not gotten into Horary study but I understand the concept. Planets, houses and essential dignities have been my focus of study for the last few weeks and soon I am going to work with the aspects and more detail on the signs themselves and just build on all that.
So I have a situation I am in were a girl I was talking to told me she was pregnant. She said it is between me and another guy. She say's its real close and she has no clue whose it could be. So Now I gotta sit here and not know if I am going to be a father or not and I would like to know so I can plan accordingly. Any information, readings, tips, tricks any and everything would be of great help and I would have much gratitude and appreciation for those that help me in my study and personal life. I am a strong believer in Astrology so I take this serious. Again I just want to thank beforehand those that take time out there day to help.  Houses (Reg.)
Asc. Pieces 7° 7'20"
2 Aries 24°18'31"
3 Taurus 26°16' 6"
IC Gemini 17° 4'59"
5 Cancer 5°37'24"
6 Cancer 29° 4'24"
Desc.Virgo 7° 7'20"
8 Libra 24°18'31"
9 Scorpio 26°16' 6"
MC Sagg 17° 4'59"
11 Cap 5°37'24"
12 Cap 29° 4'24" IP: Logged |
Hera
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From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 21, 2013 12:22 AM
Hello, YellowKid, and WELCOME TO LINDALAND!!!!  I am very sorry about the situation you are in. It's not an easy one. The chart you raised is quite a complex one, but let's see what we can get out of it, okay? First of all, you are Jupiter, exalted in Cancer (of good character, noble, I think you are ready to do the right thing by the child as well as the mother), in the 5th house. It seems this is heavily on your mind and I think you aren't entirely displeased with the prospect of being a father. Of course, the circumstances could have been better, no argument there. The woman is Mercury peregrine in Libra but placed in her house, angular. Mercury doesn't have essential dignity like you do (let's say she might not be of such noble character) but she has accidental dignity and also POF in her house, so she pretty much holds the cards here. She is just separating from a square to you, suggesting about 1 time frame ago there was contact between you. I believe this was when you two slept together, which might have been about a week ago? Or she told you the news 1 time unit ago (1 hour or a day). The reception between you two is cordial, I would think, you're both in each other's Terms and she's also in your Face. Neither is in love with the other, it's more like FWB situation. Mercury in Libra is quite a bit of a flirt. She indeed has other suitors/romantic interests. One of them is Sun, under her rulership and in her house. She has this one wrapped around her finger but she doesn't care much about him (she's in his Fall) and despite the fact that Fortune is conjunct him, he is of not much interest to us as he is unaspected. He is just sitting there but is not involved in the story. There's also Mars, whom at first I completely disregarded but I think this is the other potential candidate. Mercury as you can see is separating from a sextile to Mars, which happened 3 time units ago. She's been with Mars before you. The reception between them is quite interesting, she somewhat hates or resents him, while he is indifferent to her. I am guessing the indifference is what upset her, because he is also placed in her derivative 12th house (her blind spot). Now, the baby. Baby is Saturn in the 8th house, in Scorpio, in Via Combusta. This is quite unfortunate. There is something not right with this baby and I don't mean just the paternity uncertainty. 2 years ago when I raised a similar chart for the baby my fiancee announced me he was having with another woman, the baby was also peregrine in the 8th house. She claims she miscarried but I think the baby never existed (but in that chart, baby was intercepted in the 8th - this baby here is not). I think the baby does exist but he/she is either sick, or I don't think she will carry the pregnancy to term. This woman is really excited about the baby (Mercury is exalted by Saturn=the baby). You did not take the news all that well, since you are in Saturn's detriment (I think you do like and want kids but under different circumstances) and same thing with Mr. Mars. However, out of the two of you, you'd be more likely to recognize the kid and be there in his/her life because you are in a supportive trine to Saturn, while Mars is squaring the kid, even though you're both separating at this point. So. Who does Saturn belong to??? Let's see: under rulership of Mars, in triplicity of Mars, in your Term and in Mars's face. 3 to 1 and especially the rulership points to the baby being Mars's. He had intercourse with her before you did, but he is a proud guy and I think doesn't want to do with either the baby or the mother. Okay, what next? We look at the Moon. Oddly, the Moon was almost, ALMOST, void of course. But not quite yet, as the Moon makes one final aspect which I think is the outcome of the situation - an opposition to the mother, Mercury. Given Saturn's afflicted position in the sign of all things hidden, in the house of death and in Via Combusta (as well as Pluto the planet of death positioned in the mother's derivative house of children), the opposition before Moon goes VOC (=nothing will come of this), means she will most likely either miscarry or terminate the pregnancy herself. I personally don't think she will get an abortion because she is excited to be pregnant. But I don't think the kid will be born. This is my take on this. I am sorry if I didn't give you the news you wanted to hear. My heart goes out to you and I hope the situation will be resolved to your highest good. Blessings to you!  ------------------
This girl is on FIRE LOVE, because what else is worth living for, and dying for?! Sandpaper kisses on a cheek or a chin
That is the way for a day to begin.
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr
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imeanj
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posted September 21, 2013 01:10 AM
Sorry for your troubles, Yellowkid. Hera, that was an amazing analysis. IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted September 21, 2013 01:54 AM
Holy everything Hera! That is freaking amazing, you so need to teach me how to read like that. Kid- you should update us when things finally unfold. But that's a pretty crapy situation to be in. IP: Logged |
venuscorpio86
Knowflake Posts: 575
From: salem,or usa
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted September 21, 2013 02:43 AM
Amazing Hera!Would it be possible to get a horary readging from you? You did an awesome job! IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2013 10:44 AM
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Lioness
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posted September 21, 2013 11:08 AM
Welcome yellow kid. I hope things will get better for you.. Hera that was an amazing reading.
Great job!!!! IP: Logged |
Hera
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From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 21, 2013 12:30 PM
Thanks guys! I hope to hear from YellowKid too, would prefer not to jump to conclusions until then. Littlecloud, thank you so much! Horary is very interesting once you get the hang of it and I am always surprised at the amount of info you can get from a chart, related or unrelated to the question. If you want to learn, go for it! I think it is a valuable tool, to say the least, it never lies but interpreting the symbols accurately can be challenging at times.
Venuscorpio, thank you! I guess you can post the chart, if I won't "connect" to it or it doesn't speak to me (it has happened before), I am sure others will give you answers.
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Twirl
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From: Europe
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 21, 2013 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Holy everything Hera! That is freaking amazing
^ That's along the lines what I wanted to say 
Sorry, about your situation yellow. Hope it will work our for you 
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tgem
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posted September 22, 2013 08:42 AM
Welcome Yellowkid, please keep us updated on your situation- a very tough one but all things happen for a reason. We're here for you.@Hera, what more can I add? When I finished reading your interpretation, my jaw was on the floor...amazing! Great job IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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From: pluto
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 22, 2013 09:11 AM
Wow... Awesome, hera!  IP: Logged |
TheYellowKid
Newflake Posts: 12
From: Sirius
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 22, 2013 02:59 PM
Hey before I dive into some details I want to thank everyone for the welcome and especially Hera for the reading. It really was a big learning experience and such a cool interpretation. Horary is defiantly something I will be putting time in to study. Like I never imagined all the detail you pulled of the chart was possible, very beautiful skill there you have. How long did it take you Hera to get to this level of interpretation? Just to let everyone know yea the situation may be a little sticky but I see the positive in any situation so it really dose not affect me in a negative manner. I can be in a negative environment but I will perceive it as positive because at the end of the day its mind over matter. Now for the juicy stuff quote:
Jupiter, exalted in Cancer
-Before I cast the question I was literally studying about conception times implantation and all that type of stuff for hours trying to come to a conclusion. It was very much so heavily on my mind. I was doing some studying on astrology and I was looking at horary videos then it finally came to my mind that I could cast a chart. I would love to have children yes, but like you said not in these circumstances and particularly with this woman. quote:
She is just separating from a square to you
-We did not sleep together at this time but I am assuming the square had to do with a stupid argument we got in and therefore we did not talk to each other for over a week. 2 days ago we started talking and I was trying to keep the peace and we were on talking terms again. I have known about the pregnancy for about a month. A day ago she did tell me some news that made this chart happen. She told me the due date the doctor gave her, march 15 2014. I know that is just an guestament based of the last day of her cycle so I was digging for information and there is a window of time it could have happened. After having this information she used a conception calculator and ever since then I have been trying to figure out who is the father by my own understanding. quote:
Neither is in love with the other, it's more like FWB situation
-I agree we never were in a relationship it was like we would be cool than some argument or disagreement would happen than we would not speak for months than we would see each other and the cycle just repeats very much so love/hate type of thing. When we first met I honestly thought she was a great match for me but I was in no rush for a relationship. As time went on I seen she really was not the person I thought she was. So because of this I especially never jumped into a relationship with her. quote:
Mercury in Libra is quite a bit of a flirt. She indeed has other suitors/romantic interests
- Yea I would not be surprised at all, but I don't have much info to confirm that other than mars. quote:
Mercury as you can see is separating from a sextile to Mars, which happened 3 time units ago. She's been with Mars before you. The reception between them is quite interesting, she somewhat hates or resents him, while he is indifferent to her
- Okay so this here is very deep and very true. Although I do not know all their history I can tell you what she has told me. First with me and her I've known her for over a year almost 2 now and it was very much on and disappear for months and months off. After a long time we hung out and hooked up and that last time on june14/13 has put me in this situation. She claims she slept with him before her cycle and me after(from what she told me the last day was june8/13) and that's why she says its close. Now she has told me that they had a regular thing going on, they would see each other often and they had intercourse regularly. At first she told me she was ending her ordeal with him and that's why she came and messed with me. Later I actually find out that she was in some type of triangle. She started talking to him and eventually she starts getting calls and stuff from some other girl that he apparently got pregnant. She says she never knew this when they began talking. She told me the other girl with mars kid is due in Nov. From what she tells me the other guy has been around more like buying her vitamins, diapers exc. I do not live near her so I barely see her even when we are on talking terms. The other day she claims she was not talking to him and I told her that she needs to talk to him and be ready for either scenario. Next day she said she went over to his place an he gave her diapers and then she went to see her mom about 100 miles away . She told me she prefers for the child to be mines because she thinks It would be a better environment for the child. Makes me wonder if I'm being strung along for her to get back at him or something. She is the type of person that would start a argument just to talk if we were not, it has happened before. quote:
Now, the baby. Baby is Saturn in the 8th house, in Scorpio, in Via Combusta.
-Now I know there is a baby I went to a doc app with her and herd the heart beat and everything. She is currently said to be 15 weeks and 1 day as of today. quote:
This woman is really excited about the baby (Mercury is exalted by Saturn=the baby)
- She told me way before that she has never been pregnant and did not think she could get pregnant, this was something always in the back of my mind. Abortion is totally something she would never do as she is a very religious type of person. quote:
You did not take the news all that well, since you are in Saturn's detriment (I think you do like and want kids but under different circumstances) and same thing with Mr. Mars. However, out of the two of you, you'd be more likely to recognize the kid and be there in his/her life because you are in a supportive trine to Saturn, while Mars is squaring the kid, even though you're both separating at this point
-At first I really did not take it well. She was not a person I would long term want to be romantically involved in, like I said we had a love/hate type of thing. All I could think of is the duality the child would be in because my and her paradigms are tremendously different. I am the spiritual metaphysical type of person that does lots of personal research. She is more of the religious person with general knowledge the victim of life type, not that it's bad we are all different and here for different reasons. Personally I would not at all want my child raised in the church. I understand I create my reality so in time I became ok with the situation and I knew there would be a lot of work on my hands and luckily I know exactly what I need to do. quote:
So. Who does Saturn belong to??? Let's see: under rulership of Mars, in triplicity of Mars, in your Term and in Mars's face. 3 to 1 and especially the rulership points to the baby being Mars's. He had intercourse with her before you did, but he is a proud guy and I think doesn't want to do with either the baby or the mother.
- In this situation and time frame he most defiantly had intercourse with her before me. quote:
Okay, what next? We look at the Moon. Oddly, the Moon was almost, ALMOST, void of course. But not quite yet, as the Moon makes one final aspect which I think is the outcome of the situation - an opposition to the mother, Mercury. Given Saturn's afflicted position in the sign of all things hidden, in the house of death and in Via Combusta (as well as Pluto the planet of death positioned in the mother's derivative house of children), the opposition before Moon goes VOC (=nothing will come of this), means she will most likely either miscarry or terminate the pregnancy herself. I personally don't think she will get an abortion because she is excited to be pregnant. But I don't think the kid will be born
-Very interesting and I will keep you all updated on the outcome. I think I gave more detail on everything you interpreted if I left anything out let me know and I can touch on it. Thanks again Hera for all the information you have brought to light. Like I said this was a big learning experience and it is amazing at how much information you were able to pick up on through this chart. Astrology is truly a tool of great enlightenment and I am very thankful it is something of great interest to me. This is the first Horary question I have ever asked. IP: Logged |
Hera
Moderator Posts: 8216
From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 24, 2013 02:08 AM
YellowKid, thank you so much for the feedback! I will comment more a little later. ------------------
This girl is on FIRE LOVE, because what else is worth living for, and dying for?! Sandpaper kisses on a cheek or a chin
That is the way for a day to begin.
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr
I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! IP: Logged |
TheYellowKid
Newflake Posts: 12
From: Sirius
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 31, 2013 12:26 AM
@Hera ..Hey I am just curious as to why exactly does the planet Saturn represent the baby. I am new with horary, and I would like to know for future reference. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted October 31, 2013 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by TheYellowKid:
@Hera ..Hey I am just curious as to why exactly does the planet Saturn represent the baby. I am new with horary, and I would like to know for future reference.
It's because Saturn rules her 5th house (you count 5 from the 7th house, which is ruled by Mercury .. the sign of Virgo) IP: Logged | |
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