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Topic: Horary question - trying to interpret my own chart
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filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 09:07 AM
Hi, guys!I've been trying to interpret this horary chart, to learn and practice, but also to see how I should act around this crush of mine. From what I'm reading, Venus and 1st house ruler represents the woman and the querent, which is all me. Venus is in Scorpio in the 12th House. Jupiter (Sagittarius ruler, the sign in which 1st House lands) is in Gemini. Jupiter is trining Venus, but in a separating aspect. My take on it would be that my feelings for him are there and positive, but I'm struggling with them for some reason (since Venus is in the 12th, I'm having trouble understanding them and/or expressing them). The Moon, my 2nd ruler, is in House 9, which represents the need to travel to be with him (this seems pretty accurate, since he's living in another city). He's represented by Mars and the 7th house ruler, which is Mercury, since it's falling in Gemini. Mars is in Leo and House 9 of travel and higher education. Mercury is in Scorpio and House 11, of friendship. The Sun, his 2nd ruler, is in Libra and House 11, too. My take on it is that he sees me as a friend and possibly someone he could teach things (he was my supervisor when I was a trainee). Venus and Mars are squaring and separating, which could mean we're not in close contact to one another and are drifting apart... My take on it is that he loves me, as a friend or more, but he's moving on. Am I doing this right??? Any help is appreciated. IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 3326 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted September 30, 2013 10:14 AM
HI!Hopefully somebody will look at for you. I just posted one regarding sale of my house and from what I have studied, the querant shouldn't be the astrologer? And I am finding this to be true. Not only am I brand new at this horay thing, but, since it involves me, I dont think my judgment is going to be as spot on as somebody else having a look will! good luck!!! IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 10:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by hippichick: HI!Hopefully somebody will look at for you. I just posted one regarding sale of my house and from what I have studied, the querant shouldn't be the astrologer? And I am finding this to be true. Not only am I brand new at this horay thing, but, since it involves me, I dont think my judgment is going to be as spot on as somebody else having a look will! good luck!!!
Very valid, but I don't even consider myself an amateur astrologer, lol... I'm just trying out a few ways to interpret things, and I find it easier to learn by applying it to myself. Let's see if I got at least something right. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 10:49 AM
edit - horary chart was invalid.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5594 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 30, 2013 11:18 AM
Hi! I'm practicing too. We can learn together From what I saw in the first chart, Jupiter would actually be your significator because that was the planet of your ASC, in Sag. Since you were asking about a crush, that would be another person so we'd look to the 7th house for verification - ruled by Gemini, hence I would look at where Mercury is in the chart. Mercury is in the 11H in the first degree of Scorpio. From what I know (very little, so please don't get discouraged by my answer!) Mercury isn't aspecting the Moon or the Venus (which are like your co-significators) or Jupiter. So... do you guys not talk much, see each other much? Bear in mind a) I'm a beginner and b) actually interpreting the aspects is extremely foreign to me. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 12:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Hi! I'm practicing too. We can learn together From what I saw in the first chart, Jupiter would actually be your significator because that was the planet of your ASC, in Sag. Since you were asking about a crush, that would be another person so we'd look to the 7th house for verification - ruled by Gemini, hence I would look at where Mercury is in the chart. Mercury is in the 11H in the first degree of Scorpio. From what I know (very little, so please don't get discouraged by my answer!) Mercury isn't aspecting the Moon or the Venus (which are like your co-significators) or Jupiter. So... do you guys not talk much, see each other much? Bear in mind a) I'm a beginner and b) actually interpreting the aspects is extremely foreign to me.
Totally! I was actually inspired by your post, you know. I didn't know you had to use ASC as your significator... that actually makes sense. He moved to another city, and we email each other once every six months or so. Since there's no aspect between the main significators, I shouldn't use his co-significators to read anything, right? I mean, if I apply the same to his co-significators (Mars and Sun), only Mars is aspecting with Jupiter, in a very weak and separating way... could this mean that I'm clinging to something I know has gone away? You did great, you were actually spot on in your interpretation, so don't get discouraged yourself! We don't see each other and we've only spoken a handful of times this year. I'm off to apply this technique to the second chart. Let me know what you think, Hanna! IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 12:50 PM
Applying Hanna's orientations to the 2nd chart:My significator is Saturn (ASC in Capricorn), with only Venus as my co-significator. His significator is Moon (7th house in Cancer), his co-significators are Sun and Mars. Moon-Saturn are squaring in a separating orb. The question I made was "is he falling for me?" Rationally, I'd interpret this as a resounding "no". The aspect is squaring and separating. My gut feeling, however, tells me to interpret this as a changing agent, because the aspect is moving away from a challenging square into something yet unknown. Change is associated with Uranus, and Uranus is trining with Moon and inconjunting with Saturn... change for the both of us? Or am I reading too much into it? I'm reading too much into it. Let's see everyone else's take on it. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5594 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 30, 2013 12:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: Applying Hanna's orientations to the 2nd chart:My significator is Saturn (ASC in Capricorn), with only Venus as my co-significator. His significator is Moon (7th house in Cancer), his co-significators are Sun and Mars. Moon-Saturn are squaring in a separating orb. The question I made was "is he falling for me?" Rationally, I'd interpret this as a resounding "no". The aspect is squaring and separating. My gut feeling, however, tells me to interpret this as a changing agent, because the aspect is moving away from a challenging square into something yet unknown. Change is associated with Uranus, and Uranus is trining with Moon and inconjunting with Saturn... change for the both of us? Or am I reading too much into it? I'm reading too much into it. Let's see everyone else's take on it.
Actually.. from what I've learned so far, your second chart would be invalid because your ASC is 0 degrees. When it's set very early like that (between 0-4) or late (hmm... I think 24 or later) it indicates it's not the right time to ask the question. Especially since Capricorn is ruling your first (although Saturn isn't in there, so that's good) IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 01:08 PM
OMG, so confusing! Where are you reading all of this, Hanna? Your takes on it seem a lot more accurate from what I'm using to apply... IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5594 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 30, 2013 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: OMG, so confusing! Where are you reading all of this, Hanna? Your takes on it seem a lot more accurate from what I'm using to apply...
I've been discussing learning horary from a traditional astrologer on a Tarot oriented website (aeclectictarot.net or tarotforum.net) his name is Minderwiz, he's REALLY knowledgable and thorough. So are my questions about horary Also this site has helped a lot http://www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 01:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I've been discussing learning horary from a traditional astrologer on a Tarot oriented website (aeclectictarot.net or tarotforum.net) his name is Minderwiz, he's REALLY knowledgable and thorough. So are my questions about horary Also this site has helped a lot http://www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html
I'm googling and reading all this. *-* I want to be of help at least somewhere around here. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 5594 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 30, 2013 01:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: I'm googling and reading all this. *-* I want to be of help at least somewhere around here.
Yay! I get confused with all the significators, and house placements. But the 1st house seems like an easy place to start IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 02:22 PM
I'm finding this a bit harder to grasp, but I'm nothing if not persistent I generated another chart and this one seems valid (Asc is neither 0-3 or 27-30). I also tweaked the question to "is he in love with me?" So ASC in Aquarius is me, so my significator is Saturn. He's represented by the DESC, which falls in Leo, so his significator is the Sun. Sun-Saturn have an applying semisextile in a close orb going on. Using my co-significator, Venus, we see it's octiling in an applying orb to him (Sun). Both are weak aspects, so can we interpret this as a flimsy "yes"? IP: Logged |
Alabaster437 Knowflake Posts: 599 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 30, 2013 02:31 PM
Hey there!I'm interested in helping you out, but could you tell me what the question was for the first chart? The first chart is the one we should examine, especially if the questions are the same/similar because the others would then be invalid Also a noob IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 03:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Alabaster437: Hey there!I'm interested in helping you out, but could you tell me what the question was for the first chart? The first chart is the one we should examine, especially if the questions are the same/similar because the others would then be invalid Also a noob
Hey there, yourself! All newbies are welcomed, as we can all learn together! First question was "is V in love with me?" The second one is invalid (ASC in 0º)... the third one was also "is G in love with me?" IP: Logged |
Alabaster437 Knowflake Posts: 599 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 30, 2013 03:15 PM
Ok, are V and G two different people?IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 30, 2013 03:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Alabaster437: Ok, are V and G two different people?
Yes, very much so... Couldn't be more different, actually. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 01, 2013 07:52 AM
Bump for anyone who wants to join in the discussionIP: Logged |