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Enlightened
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posted October 22, 2013 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enlightened     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As usual , I'd be happy to do some tarot for you in exchange

Situation: Guy I know through my work, seems we've always had this mutual attraction, although due to circumstances have never acted on anything...although I AM receptive..I'm not sure where he stands?

Question: Does he even want anything with me??
http://rghost.net/49664518

Any insight is most appreciated...thank you!

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posted October 23, 2013 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enlightened     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to be a nudge...but, anyone?

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Hera
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posted October 23, 2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am busy, sorry.

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filleaspirant
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posted October 23, 2013 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

I'm not knowledgeable like Hera, AND I'm still learning... Without taking a closer look, I'd say no, he's not interested, since inconjunction is not considered an aspect between significators as far as I've read.

Am a bit busy and in a hurry right now... Will come back later and say a bit more.

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posted October 23, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, 'm back.

You're Saturn in Scorpio and in his 3rd House. I'd say he likes talking to you. His interest seems to be more friendly than romantic. Also, he probably has someone else in mind, seeing as Miss Venus is in his 5th of romance. You also have a Mr Mercury coming back to you, so an old flame or lover might get in touch with you in 6 units of time (I think it's years, if I'm not mistaken).

Like I said before, doesn't seem he's interested in you in that way. Sorry.

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posted October 23, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enlightened     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Okay, 'm back.

You're Saturn in Scorpio and in his 3rd House. I'd say he likes talking to you. His interest seems to be more friendly than romantic. Also, he probably has someone else in mind, seeing as Miss Venus is in his 5th of romance. You also have a Mr Mercury coming back to you, so an old flame or lover might get in touch with you in 6 units of time (I think it's years, if I'm not mistaken).

Like I said before, doesn't seem he's interested in you in that way. Sorry.


Thanks Flip...Don't take this the wrong way but you say you are still learning right?
I hope you're wrong! LOL
I hope someone else sees something different..Cause if not, oh well....my vibes are WAY off, which usually they are not...

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posted October 23, 2013 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If she's Saturn in Scorpio, then he's the Moon in Gemini. Intriguing, because there's an exact aspect here, but it's quincunx. Potential karma, but major adjustment needed.

Now, it's in the 5H which is clearly indicating there's a romantic (or at least a recreational) focus. Whether that's him, or your perception of him, or simply the emotional focus (the Moon) of the situation - remains to be seen.

I do not like Pluto in the 12H. I never do. There are underhanded powerplays going on in the background here, or even beneath your consciousness. This is a unique, dynamic relationship; there's reciprocity - Saturn in Scorpio, Pluto in Capricorn. He may be thinking you're playing the games, you may think it's him. Either way, it's causing problems.

Venus in the 11H is interesting. Any romanticism is currently being sublimated - or focussed - into friendship. But Mars is in the 8H, so there's another x-factor here. Mars in the 8H is a highly sexual motivation. Whose motivation? Probably yours, dear querent, as it's hanging out with the Sun and the stellium in Scorpio. (In fact so much Scorpio clearly reveals the nature of the question.)

The fact that the Sun is the anaretic degree sounds like you're at your wit's end with this. There's also karma here; the fact so much is in Scorpio and Pluto is alone in the 12H just indicates there's too much going on underneath all of this to get a clear picture.

There's so much Scorpio / 12H / 8H energy here; Pluto opposes Jupiter showing possible excess and obsession; Mars in the 8H is opposite Neptune, confusing, muddling everything. Be careful of what's illusion.

I'd say proceed with caution. You (the Sun) are completely engulfed in the 7H. This issue is 'consuming' you - especially with so much Scorpio energy.

Try and trust your intuition, but stay aware.

That's my best advice.

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imeanj
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posted October 24, 2013 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No offense, but everyone is making this reading too complicated.

You are Saturn he is Moon - no aspects. So unlikely. Looking further no aspects between Saturn does not aspect Mars or Sun. No aspects between Venus and Mars.

There is aspect between Moon and Venus, but its an opposition - so its not the easiest situation. Likewise, like @file I am not convinced that Venus represents you.

I would ask the question - due to the circumstance why has he never acted? No offense, but if a guy is super in to you - he finds a way to work around the circumstance. Likewise, (sorry to be that harsh or blunt), but would you want a guy who doesn't just champion you in that way anyhow? Personally, I want a guy to just be fearless and come after me...

In regards to dignity and debility - he is in triplicity in your sign - i.e. by accident; however, he is also in his detriment. So he can't do anything about it, but it is possible that he likes you. So this seems to fit the situation You are in his detriment, so you are powerless. So overall, it is unlikely that anything will happen.

SIDEBAR: Venus is in term in Sag; Moon is exalted in Taurus. I would say that Venus and Moon would work out - thought it could be possible that the situation is purely sexual. But like I said previously, I am not convinced you are Venus here. B/c the Venus/Moon situation is a very obvious one. I believe in your intuition, but really b/c of this connection - the situation should be a no-brainer.

Regardless, keep us updated please - I'd say in about 3 weeks time, Venus and Moon will oppose each other, and you can will/tell us if we were right or wrong.

Hugs! Thanks for letting us practice on you....

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posted October 24, 2013 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Imeanj,

I agree with you about all the unnecessary work being done. No connection between the ruler of the querant and the quesited means no action at all. I think any other interpretation such as the Moon in 5th and Venus in 11th simply points to the arenas where the question lives and other characteristics of the situation being asked about, but nothing will happen because of the very 1st rule of thumb, no action between the rulers of the subject at hand, no action at all.

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posted October 25, 2013 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enlightened     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. First off thanks to all of you! I find it fascinating that you are able to read these charts!!

Having said that..
INDIGO- You are right in your assumption that this is karmic,asI have always felt that as well. You are also right about the game playing. I can see how both of us may perceive the other is playing games. And yes, I am at my wits end AND consumed by the situation. This thread has made me realize that I need to put it to bed already!!

IMEANJ- You are SO right...Why would I want a guy that wouldn't fight for me anyway? (The circumstance was that we are both attached to others. But you are SO right..if a guy really wants you, they will go for it.

It's odd...a few weeks back I posted a horary that showed that he REALLY wanted me...how can it change so quickly??

Anyway..thanks again, and feel free to leave a tarot inquiry

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posted October 25, 2013 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enlightened     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH and IMEANJ- what did you mean by this:


"Regardless, keep us updated please - I'd say in about 3 weeks time, Venus and Moon will oppose each other, and you can will/tell us if we were right or wrong.

Hugs! Thanks for letting us practice on you....

Does this mean in three weeks time something will happen if anything?

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imeanj
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posted October 25, 2013 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Silliness! If you asked a couple of weeks ago, don't ask again, my dear; it's like tarot. You are your own worse enemy, stop it!

Post the original chart please, and I'll look further.

No tarot for now, will ask later when the need comes up - hugs!

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posted October 26, 2013 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enlightened     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imeanj- here's the original where I asked if he was attracted to me and if anything would happen
http://rghost.net/49261945

Let me know wha you see and thanks!!

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imeanj
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posted October 26, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ says file is deleted....FAIL.

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imeanj
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posted October 26, 2013 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"Regardless, keep us updated please - I'd say in about 3 weeks time, Venus and Moon will oppose each other, and you can will/tell us if we were right or wrong..."

There is a possibility that you are Venus - I feel that you aren't but I don't want to rule it out. So you will know in 3 weeks if you are Venus are not, b/c something will happen between Moon and Venus. Be careful though if it is you, there is a possibility if it is you that the meeting may be only sexual and nothing more, because Venus is a secondary ruler - so often it ends up being a just sex thing when there are aspects.

You really want it to be primary rulers aspecting without interference and with a positive aspect. i.e. opposing is a negative aspect. Moon - is usually feelings/emotions of some sort, though in this chart it is ruling the querent. Likewise, the path of the Moon tells the timeline/storyline of what happens. Sun/Mars/Venus - are secondary, and have more to do with physicality, at times.

Horary gives a lot of information and detail, but is widely interpreted, so accuracy takes a lot of trial and error.

Anyhow, hope that is helpful!

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