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Topic: Horay : Will this relationship last or is this just another mirage
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lilithpluto
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posted October 27, 2013 05:43 AM
  
Dear kind souls.. I'm curious.. will this relationship last or is this just a mirage?   IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 27, 2013 01:45 PM
Well, although your rulers aren't aspecting at all, I thought if you're asking about it lasting to look at Saturn or the house of. Moon (your co-ruler) is squaring Saturn, and Mars is sextiling Saturn. So... off of a hunch (and I'm a beginner so don't take mine to heart) I think he is willing to make it last, if he's feeling it, but there's some issues with you having faith in the relationship or trusting it.IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted October 27, 2013 04:45 PM
^ @hanna - don't make stuff up, sweets! You are Aries/Mars - he is Libra/Venus. Mars and it does sextile Sun in 3 counts. However, often when there are secondary signifiers involved it suggests more sexual based encounters. I have lots to do - but if someone (ahem - @hanna) were to look more I would consider where planets are and their placement in each sign. i.e. Dignity and Debility. Good luck! Look here: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 27, 2013 04:49 PM
I didn't make anything up, I just didn't know how to justify it as in put it into a chronological explanation.IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted October 27, 2013 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I didn't make anything up, I just didn't know how to justify it as in put it into a chronological explanation.
You don't need to look at saturn and moon here...about it lasting. You want to look at the primary signifiers and then secondary signifiers, always. Looking at the chart as a whole is tertiary. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 27, 2013 08:17 PM
Wow... It's so nice to wake up n see replies to my thread! Thank you hana, imeanj!Let me digest.. Just woke up IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted October 28, 2013 12:48 AM
@hannaI see now. Was it b/c of @ww's chart? Saturn does keep people together etc. in astrology. But I don't know that I would look to it here first. Though, it could be argued that Saturn is a signifier - because it is present in the 7th house (or 1st house) - so that it ends up representing quested (or querent). It's location in certain houses can give clues to the situation, but be careful of giving it too much significance - the way it does in a regular chart... Sorry, if I came off harsh, that was not my intention. Hugs! -- Sun is also present in the 7th House here as well... IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 28, 2013 03:37 AM
Saturn in the 7th house of a horary compromises the judgement of the astrologer but not the querent unless the latter relies on the opinions of others.Mercury is still in retrograde. OP might change her idea once it is back to normal  IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 28, 2013 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by imeanj:
You are Aries/Mars - he is Libra/Venus. Mars and it does sextile Sun in 3 counts. However, often when there are secondary signifiers involved it suggests more sexual based encounters.
This is exactly what iQ said when i asked him to look into our synastry and composite charts - this relationship will start off steamy and sexual first. sorry for the delay in feedback.. I am tied up at work..  IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 28, 2013 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Well, although your rulers aren't aspecting at all, I thought if you're asking about it lasting to look at Saturn or the house of. Moon (your co-ruler) is squaring Saturn, and Mars is sextiling Saturn. So... off of a hunch (and I'm a beginner so don't take mine to heart) I think he is willing to make it last, if he's feeling it, but there's some issues with you having faith in the relationship or trusting it.
Don't worry about it. I am just happy that you are willing to look into the chart. I'll be happy if he will make it last.. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 28, 2013 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by imeanj:
@hannaI see now. Was it b/c of @ww's chart? Saturn does keep people together etc. in astrology. But I don't know that I would look to it here first. Though, it could be argued that Saturn is a signifier - because it is present in the 7th house (or 1st house) - so that it ends up representing quested (or querent). It's location in certain houses can give clues to the situation, but be careful of giving it too much significance - the way it does in a regular chart... Sorry, if I came off harsh, that was not my intention. Hugs! -- Sun is also present in the 7th House here as well...
eh... simple layman terms for this lost girl? What does it mean to have sun in 7th house? IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 28, 2013 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Saturn in the 7th house of a horary compromises the judgement of the astrologer but not the querent unless the latter relies on the opinions of others.Mercury is still in retrograde. OP might change her idea once it is back to normal
You mean I might change my trust in the relationship? Hmmmm.... IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 28, 2013 07:49 AM
Yes.The title of this thread and on which you created a horary chart is 'will this relationship last..' The position of Saturn gives a clue to the validity and honesty of the question asked. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 28, 2013 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by imeanj:
@hannaI see now. Was it b/c of @ww's chart? Saturn does keep people together etc. in astrology. But I don't know that I would look to it here first. Though, it could be argued that Saturn is a signifier - because it is present in the 7th house (or 1st house) - so that it ends up representing quested (or querent). It's location in certain houses can give clues to the situation, but be careful of giving it too much significance - the way it does in a regular chart... Sorry, if I came off harsh, that was not my intention. Hugs! -- Sun is also present in the 7th House here as well...
Because of that, but also just the fact that Saturn is astrological glue in general. But it's good it's in the 7th house, right? Does it show he's serious about a relationship?  IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 28, 2013 11:44 AM
Saturn in the 7th house in a horary is not the same as Saturn in the 7th house natal. The former is one of the strictures against judgement. Either the horary artist has made a mistake while creating the chart or the question asked is not honest or phrased wrongly or doesn't reflect the reality of things OR that the querent (if s/he is the horary artist) is biased thus rendering the chart invalid.IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 29, 2013 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Saturn in the 7th house in a horary is not the same as Saturn in the 7th house natal. The former is one of the strictures against judgement. Either the horary artist has made a mistake while creating the chart or the question asked is not honest or phrased wrongly or doesn't reflect the reality of things OR that the querent (if s/he is the horary artist) is biased thus rendering the chart invalid.
So this chart can't b used? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 29, 2013 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
So this chart can't b used?
May I ask you how you truly feel about this relationship lilith? YOU.Not how HE makes you feel. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 29, 2013 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
May I ask you how you truly feel about this relationship lilith? YOU.Not how HE makes you feel.
Fun, its nice to be adored but I don't really have much confidence in in the relationship. He isn't my first option but we get along well. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 31, 2013 01:10 AM
There you go.Saturn is telling you to re-evaluate if YOU really want this relationship to last. IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted October 31, 2013 01:25 AM
*sorry to butt inJessica - Will you do a card reading for me? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 31, 2013 01:42 AM
^ Sure dear I'll try my best to do it by this evening. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted October 31, 2013 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
There you go.Saturn is telling you to re-evaluate if YOU really want this relationship to last.
Thank you for e advice. IP: Logged |
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