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Topic: Why is he so jealous ???
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 09:22 AM
My boyfriend is physically perfect. Beautiful blond hair, captivating gray eyes and an incredibly tall and fit body. He has a very bubbly personality and is pretty popular. On top of all of that, he comes from a well-off family so if I say his jealousy stems from insecurity, that's kinda hard to believe specially when he radiates infinite confidence and girls seem to keep following him around like herds of sheep. I don't understand why but he gets jealous so easily. He is possessive of me and I told him that I don't like it. He said he can't help it and it's instinctive. Honestly, I don't know how to ease him. He has no reason to be jealous, I should be the one who suspects and not him ! Can someone plz take a look at his chart and tell what aspects/placements could explain this ??? IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 14, 2013 09:36 AM
Just because you see him perfect and everything that doesn't mean HE sees HIMSELF like that. Those insecurities come from Mercury Rx in 1st house. And in Virgo? Screams PERFECTION.Jealousy and possesiveness= Mars square Pluto. I myself have Venus square Pluto and I am exactly like your bf. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 09:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Just because you see him perfect and everything that doesn't mean HE sees HIMSELF like that. Those insecurities come from Mercury Rx in 1st house. And in Virgo? Screams PERFECTION.Jealousy and possesiveness= Mars square Pluto. I myself have Venus square Pluto and I am exactly like your bf.
I can see the thing with mercury but his Pluto does not aspect his Mars at all. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 14, 2013 09:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: I can see the thing with mercury but his Pluto does not aspect his Mars at all.
You are right. But do you know what unaspected planets do? Nothing. They make the person LOST and feeling empty. In your boyfriend's case is even worse, thing he should start to control. You are just a pawn on his chessboard. You are not guilty for his behaviour but you can help him fix the problem. With patience and everything. What the synastry and composite say about you two?
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redshoes Knowflake Posts: 777 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 14, 2013 09:46 AM
Venus Pluto sextile can cause obsessionsIP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 09:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: You are right. But do you know what unaspected planets do? Nothing. They make the person LOST and feeling empty. In your boyfriend's case is even worse, thing he should start to control. You are just a pawn on his chessboard. You are not guilty for his behaviour but you can help him fix the problem. With patience and everything. What the synastry and composite say about you two?
All of his planets are aspected as far as I can see. here is our synastry if u want to take a look. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 09:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by redshoes: Venus Pluto sextile can cause obsessions
But shouldn't Venus-Uranus Sextile balance that out ?
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Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 14, 2013 10:02 AM
Karmic relationship. Better friends than lovers. Hard planets over your 4th house? in Rx motion? You will never marry or make house with him. Unless you like the idea of living a hell.IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Karmic relationship. Better friends than lovers. Hard planets over your 4th house? in Rx motion? You will never marry or make house with him. Unless you like the idea of living a hell.
oh god....that's terrifying IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:10 AM
Does our composite hint at the same ??? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4358 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:10 AM
He has a lot of mars aspects, one which is a tight conjunction with his IC that falls in your 4th/5th. He is quarrelsome and possibly enjoys bickering. Sorry I don't feel jealousy here..IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4358 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:14 AM
well ya, too much mars. composite sun in scorp.comp mars in 7th..moon opp mars..boy..one hot compositeIP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 14, 2013 10:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: Does our composite hint at the same ???
Mars in 7th house in COMPOSITE? God forbid! If you marry this man you are DOOMED to live in a abusive domestic enviroment. Ruler, Neptune falls in 5th. Saturn is there and Uranus. This is an unconventional, karmic romance. NN in 4th house shows again karma. Be careful. I personally don't like the composite. I don't like your bf's behaviour. And you don't deserve this. No woman deserve that. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:18 AM
OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!! Guys you're scaring the hell of me !! is our relationship truly THAT terrible ?! IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4358 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!! Guys you're scaring the hell of me !! is our relationship truly THAT terrible ?!
no,don't panic Take a deep breath Silver. Only YOU can judge if your relationship is truly that terrible. But the red flags are there. I don't feel that your bf is jealous though. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 14, 2013 10:26 AM
Silver, post your natal chart. I want to see what kind of person you are. If you are the person I hope you are, maybe you do have a chance with this guy.IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: no,don't panic Take a deep breath Silver. Only YOU can judge if your relationship is truly that terrible. But the red flags are there. I don't feel that your bf is jealous though. Mars on the IC may indicate a disruptive home. He may have been brought up by parents that fight constantly. Can you possibly validate those things with him?
ok. I will but he seems so serious about me..he said that I was everything he dreamt of and the sexual chemistry between us is off the roof. I'm truly scared now, I don't know what to believe anymore. I had an almost perfect synastry with my ex but it turned out to be the worst and most painful one I ever had. His natal chart looks overly good to me and he seems romantically trustworthy. Jess, how does he appear to you ? Do you think he will abuse/hurt me ??? I dated Virgos before and they are the furthest thing from violent as far as I have seen IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Silver, post your natal chart. I want to see what kind of person you are. If you are the person I hope you are, maybe you do have a chance with this guy.
ok. IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 907 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 14, 2013 10:37 AM
i didn't look to see if these things were mentioned already or not, but in his natal the moon is hidden in the 12th, so it won't express itself as positively as most leo moons. that could mean instead of the romantic, doting partner a leo moon should be, you’d get the 'uglier' side at times, which could be jealousy/ego coming out. leo moons have a LOT of pride and unless you are fulfilling that need for him that might be the simplest explanation. Leo moon in the 12th is akin to hiding the sunshine and that can make these people even more feisty/angry and repressed about stuff. remember that although leo influened people seem arrogant/proud it covers deeper insecurities they have. Also, with all the virgo he’s likely very uptight and prone to repressing some emotional things, especially since your ASC is likely mirroring the faults he sees in himself, your ASC that close to his sun, and his planets in your 12th is magnifying his own issues (imagined or real). he also has saturn in the 5th, which restricts fun and might also influence why he tries to possess you; saturn restricts things, and in the 5th, it might manifest as restrictions on romance somehow. I don’t like the synastry much and the composite moon in 1st opp. mars in 7th – problematic for sure, not at all good for long-lasting happiness and romance. Perhaps a good partner for now but be cautious of forever :-)IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 14, 2013 10:38 AM
Moon in Libra in 1st house. You are a sensitive person. In Libra, you hate conflicts and they scare you. You prefer peace and serenity in relationship with you and others. Aries on the 7th house may show otherwise but you are the Moon, the first house, the Libra, what you TRULY are. Your 4th house does not look good. Your childhood and family home werent good at all. Dysfunctional and your relationship with your parents is the opposite of what your Moon needs. You attracted this guy in base of what you lived at home. Its NOT your fault, its simply karma. You have issues that must be dealt with. You are NOT strong enough to live a life with this guy in the same way you lived with your family. You will end up having a breakdown psychologically with too many violence around you.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4358 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:39 AM
^ I can understand your concerns Silver. I can't help thinking of those cards you pulled which you posted in TTLG. I think it's telling you to listen to your intuition, to your inner voice. Don't be scared. I know you are a very intuitive person.It's not surprising that the sexual attraction is intense considering all the mars aspects. To me he comes across as quarrelsome as in loving to 'win' a fight or wanting to win at all costs. BUT I don't know what kind of human being he is and what kind of bond you two share with each other. So my advice to you, is take things easy, learn to know him better. BUT do not let him boss over you, and NEVER allow him to raise his voice or shout at you and ever raise a finger on you. Not saying that he will. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: ^ I can understand your concerns Silver. I can't help thinking of those cards you pulled which you posted in TTLG. I think it's telling you to listen to your intuition, to your inner voice. Don't be scared. I know you are a very intuitive person.It's not surprising that the sexual attraction is intense considering all the mars aspects. To me he comes across as quarrelsome as in loving to 'win' a fight or wanting to win at all costs. BUT I don't know what kind of human being he is and what kind of bond you two share with each other. So my advice to you, is take things easy, learn to know him better. BUT do not let him boss over you, and NEVER allow him to raise his voice or shout at you and ever raise a finger on you. Not saying that he will.
Thank you Jess you eased me. I was truly shocked by the replies. I know we do argue a lot and both of us have his and hers own set of personal issues but I hoped that he will be different. For this entire year, I've been going from one karmic relationship to another, pain upon pain and I'm fed up. I want something secure and stable but it seems it won't be happening this time either Do you think we are better off as friends ??
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Moon in Libra in 1st house. You are a sensitive person. In Libra, you hate conflicts and they scare you. You prefer peace and serenity in relationship with you and others. Aries on the 7th house may show otherwise but you are the Moon, the first house, the Libra, what you TRULY are. Your 4th house does not look good. Your childhood and family home werent good at all. Dysfunctional and your relationship with your parents is the opposite of what your Moon needs. You attracted this guy in base of what you lived at home. Its NOT your fault, its simply karma. You have issues that must be dealt with. You are NOT strong enough to live a life with this guy in the same way you lived with your family. You will end up having a breakdown psychologically with too many violence around you.
thanks Rosa for everything. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1238 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 10:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: i didn't look to see if these things were mentioned already or not, but in his natal the moon is hidden in the 12th, so it won't express itself as positively as most leo moons. that could mean instead of the romantic, doting partner a leo moon should be, you’d get the 'uglier' side at times, which could be jealousy/ego coming out. leo moons have a LOT of pride and unless you are fulfilling that need for him that might be the simplest explanation. Leo moon in the 12th is akin to hiding the sunshine and that can make these people even more feisty/angry and repressed about stuff. remember that although leo influened people seem arrogant/proud it covers deeper insecurities they have. Also, with all the virgo he’s likely very uptight and prone to repressing some emotional things, especially since your ASC is likely mirroring the faults he sees in himself, your ASC that close to his sun, and his planets in your 12th is magnifying his own issues (imagined or real). he also has saturn in the 5th, which restricts fun and might also influence why he tries to possess you; saturn restricts things, and in the 5th, it might manifest as restrictions on romance somehow. I don’t like the synastry much and the composite moon in 1st opp. mars in 7th – problematic for sure, not at all good for long-lasting happiness and romance. Perhaps a good partner for now but be cautious of forever :-)
He did bring up marriage, more than once and I tried to evade the issue. Thanks for the advice
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4358 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 14, 2013 11:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: Thank you Jess you eased me. I was truly shocked by the replies. I know we do argue a lot and both of us have his and hers own set of personal issues but I hoped that he will be different. For this entire year, I've been going from one karmic relationship to another, pain upon pain and I'm fed up. I want something secure and stable but it seems it won't be happening this time either Do you think we are better off as friends ??
I don't think that you guys can be just friends unless it's friends with benefits A word of caution : Don't dwell in the hope that a guy will change his ways as the relationship proceed its course. Guys don't change not a guy like that, he won't. He will expect you to do the changing to accommodate him. So if you want this to work, you better make it crystal clear to him that you will not change. There is a huge difference between changing and compromising. There is a dynamics of give and take in a relationship that highlights differences in character and opinions but at the end of the day the 2 individuals involved should truly care for each other in order to off set disagreements that could turn into huge conflicts. IP: Logged |