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Alabaster437
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posted November 26, 2013 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alabaster437     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In this horary, I asked whether my friend and his fiancee would break up.

His fiancee is a very toxic sort of person, sort of like a snake in the grass, wanting to cause trouble all of the time. My friend is now taking on some of those behaviors and it's wearing on our group of friends. It's problematic all around, I suppose.

So this is what I've gathered: He would be Saturn (7H) and she would be Venus, the fifth from his house. She's on his cusp, so I'd take that as signifying the relationship. However, their aspect is separating, but I'm not sure what that would mean in this case.

I am the Moon and I'm separating from both of their significators, which I take to represent my current course of action (removing myself from them).

Another of my questions is regarding the dignities... I am in her fall. He is in her detriment and in my fall. She is in his domicile and in my detriment. For the most part, there are negative feelings all around, right? I plan to look this up a little more.

What do you all think?

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Alabaster437
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posted November 26, 2013 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alabaster437     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so as far as the receptions go... and this is really simplistic and could even be wrong lol. I think it's clear that I do not like her (Moon in Venus' fall). At this time, he doesn't even like me (Saturn in Moon's fall) and she really doesn't like me (Venus in Moon's detriment). Venus is in Saturn's sign, so she loves him, which is good actually. I thought that she didn't really. However, he's in her detriment, which is weird. Does that mean that he doesn't return her feelings?

Actually, he's on her seventh and she is on his first. Would this reinforce that she's the more invested one in this relationship?

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Jessica2407
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posted November 27, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a third party horary chart.

So you are asking to counsel your friend? or are you asking on her behalf?

He is Mars imo, not saturn..

I'm much inclined to say that you are saturn, and your friend co-significator is the moon but am not sure.

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Alabaster437
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posted November 27, 2013 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alabaster437     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jess

Tbh, I was a bit wary casting the horary bc I am a third party. I'd like to counsel him, but he's past that point. I suppose my intentions were to figure out how I should proceed, especially if the relationship continues or doesn't.

I'm also unsure about the significators =/

What's your reasoning for Mars?

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Jessica2407
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posted November 27, 2013 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Alabaster437:
Hey Jess

Tbh, I was a bit wary casting the horary bc I am a third party. I'd like to counsel him, but he's past that point. I suppose my intentions were to figure out how I should proceed, especially if the relationship continues or doesn't.

I'm also unsure about the significators =/

What's your reasoning for Mars?


hey there

Okay, I got mixed up with who is your friend. so your friend is male right? he would be your 11th ruler, 7th from the 11th house would be scorp, ruler mars. now am not sure whether to take your significator as the 1st house ruler or the 7th house ruler, that is why I asked your intentions when you constructed this chart.I still think your friend's co-sig is moon, she is mars...

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filleaspirant
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posted November 27, 2013 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Jessica, Alabaster...

You're Moon, as you're the querent, 1st house.
Your friend is Venus, as he's signified by the ruler of the 11th.
His girlfriend is Mars, as she's signified by his 7th house / your 5th.
Whoever reads the chart is Saturn, as 7th is the house of the astrologer.

Hope this helps you somehow.

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