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toptops
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posted December 16, 2013 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear All,

I am considering for some time the + and - of a major decision that I could take.

It concerns my personal life and has to do with my EX. But not just one of those insignificant exes we meet, briefly interact with and than forget all about. The man in question is one I spent 8+years with and left app 3 years ago (beginning of my Saturn return) for reasons that now after I have grown up, goten way more mature and wise and just recently made it alive although changed to the core from my Saturn return don't seem significant enough.

I am thinking about marrying him, having kids together and spending our lives together. It is one of Those decisions that needs to be taken.

For the past approximately 3 years I have gone through a lot of life events and men and am currently so different from who I was back than. We never lost contact with him, kept in touch, the attraction is alive, the feelings too although we both have been in and out of one night stands and "relationships" those past years. Heck I have not requested and he has not initiated the return of the keys to my place where we used to live together.

So now I am trying to decide what is really important and if the things that actually matter in the long term are ok and basically put my life back on track the way it should be.

So, because I probably bored you with yet the other "love question" somebody has long story short - I casted a chart asking - Should I ask V back?

Below are the Horary chart, the Sinastry chart, the Davison chart and the Composite chart, birth times as to my knowledge are accurate.

If you feel like it and can give me some input I will really be very indebted to your kindess!

HORARY

SINASTRY
edited

DAVISON
edited

COMPOSITE
edited

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Tofu addict
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posted December 16, 2013 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you check the date of the Horary Chart ?

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toptops
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posted December 16, 2013 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhh, am I an idiot or yes.

Dear Tofu I just corrected it! Thank you!

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imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Tofu is already on it, so I defer to her.

But overall, it's not that anything should or should not be done, but that there are a lot of oppositions, etc. in the chart. So the overall feeling in the chart are of possibilities but with difficulties in those possibilities.

Likewise, the Sun is his second signifier, as Mercury even though there is conjunction you are combust...

Anyhow, good luck and a hug to you!

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toptops
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posted December 16, 2013 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imeanj:
@Tofu is already on it, so I defer to her.

But overall, it's not that anything should or should not be done, but that there are a lot of oppositions, etc. in the chart. So the overall feeling in the chart are of possibilities but with difficulties in those possibilities.

Likewise, the Sun is his second signifier, as Mercury even though there is conjunction you are combust...

Anyhow, good luck and a hug to you!


Dear Imeanj,

thank you for stepping in!

I am both trying to get some clarity from you=the experienced ones and to learn something at the same time.

So, I googled combustion, read through some info and have the following questions/remarks:
- The tighter the combustion (fundamentally whatever aspect) the stronger, right? Here it is app 7 from 8,50 degrees.
- Some posts mentioned mercury and venus were not that affected although there was no explanation why. What do you know about this?
- Fundamentally mercury=me being combust equals me being week and uneffective around him. So does it mean I am hesitant in asking him, or feel uneasy and weak and quilty? Because if it does you can bet I am all of the above. Orrr it means than the answer I will get will be Thanks but no thanks?
- If I got it correctly my significators are mercury and secondary moon, for him - Jupiter and Sun. Does it mean something at all that my sgnificators conjuct with the AC - DC axis?
- Does Jupiter being in a house the cusp of which is in cancer=moon mean something?

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toptops
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posted December 16, 2013 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 16, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There we go.
You are Mercury, detriment and on a critical degree, so you donít feel in a strong position and weakened. Also you are represented by the Moon , and Venus, and Venus going R in 5 days time, so not that strong because of that . Ascendant also on a critical degree.
He is Jupiter R, in exaltation, and Sun as Co- significator.

No aspects between the main significators, although there is a reception between them in Ruler-Term.
His house looks interesting, first of all with Jupiter as a ruler, R, sometimes that can mean that if you already had a relationship with that person, he is coming back. Sagittarius is a double bodied sign, so i wonder if he is single ,Mercury is in there as well what also can indicate other female interests.
The Moon is very active here, is your co-significator. The aspects are oppositions towards his Sun and Mercury. It means contact, but also tension and conflict.
I see more negatives in this chart than positives. It could be a disappointment.

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toptops
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posted December 16, 2013 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tofu addict:
There we go.
You are Mercury, detriment and on a critical degree, so you donít feel in a strong position and weakened. Also you are represented by the Moon , and Venus, and Venus going R in 5 days time, so not that strong because of that . Ascendant also on a critical degree.
He is Jupiter R, in exaltation, and Sun as Co- significator.

No aspects between the main significators, although there is a reception between them in Ruler-Term.
His house looks interesting, first of all with Jupiter as a ruler, R, sometimes that can mean that if you already had a relationship with that person, he is coming back. Sagittarius is a double bodied sign, so i wonder if he is single ,Mercury is in there as well what also can indicate other female interests.
The Moon is very active here, is your co-significator. The aspects are oppositions towards his Sun and Mercury. It means contact, but also tension and conflict.
I see more negatives in this chart than positives. It could be a disappointment.


Dear Tofu,

thank you for the insight!

My feedback: we are both in relationships, although how serious those are is a matter of debate. Neither one of us is sure regarding anything.

From what you and Imeanj have seen in the chart it doesn't really clearly "tells me" something for sure but rather points to opportunities mixed with a bunch of difficalties, tension and frustration.

Overall you both see it as rather negative.

Once again THANK YOU BOTH for the time and efforts!

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imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I'd say the answer for the horary says that IF something were to happen, it be difficult, but I feel that horary is not completely set in stone either. So, go figure.

BUT I had a look at the composite and from the pattern aspects as well as the further information, I'd still say this is perhaps not the best relationship for you anyhow. You don't have a love stellium and also the T-square is not the best. Grand cross are already a bit difficult, so to have only three wheels instead of four will always make things wonky. You know that deep down inside, its like its almost there...

<3

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