posted January 10, 2014 02:50 AM            

My question is similar to her's… My significator Venus is in the quesited's 9th house, and yet his Significator Mars is in my 12th house. They are squaring but in an applying aspect. My question was asking if he liked me.

Now about reading the horary chart, I was confused if a square meant "No," but upon further reading it seems like it means there's obstacles and it may not be easy achieving the goal.

My other question was wondering how bad it is that he's in my 12th house when it's ruled by Libra anyway, which is the chart ASC.

posted January 10, 2014 11:21 AM            

For instance, if Saturn is found in the first house, or Ascendant, of the horary figure, the Astrologer must instruct his querent that he is facing depressed health conditions, that he is about to pass through a temporary cloud, and that he may meet with a disappointment of some kind.

posted January 10, 2014 11:28 AM            

Venus your signifier is retrograde though...(on top of the Saturn being in the first.)

He may like you, but the goal - relationship - may not happen. Though other signifiers look promising, moon and sun trine for example - the moon is the timeline/path and the last aspect the moon makes is with Saturn...

Not good that he is in the 12th house you want him in the 1st. He is also in detriment in Libra.

I would say he likes you, but that you the relationship you are looking for is not likely to happen at this point. It may take much longer to develop or will happen much later down the line - beyond the scope of this horary.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. LMK how this resonates...Hug!

posted January 10, 2014 12:29 PM            

Since Venus and Mars are applying to an aspect, a relationship would be possible, but since it's a square it will be a difficult situation. I think the sun might represent another guy, so maybe you will reconcile with him, since the moon is applying to a trine with the sun. The North node in your first house is beneficial to you, but you may realize that a relationship with Mr Mars is not what is best for you. I keep getting the feeling maybe he is the ex of a friend, or some other potentially messy situation. Intuitively, something just feels off about the situation.

posted January 11, 2014 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I'm just learning horary so my knowledge is limited, but I did notice a few things. The moon isn't VOC since it will perfect an aspect with Saturn before leaving the sign. Saturn in your 1st house means that there will be obstacles to overcome. Looking at the chart it seems like you are currently in a relationship, or going through a breakup. Possibly feeling torn between whether to stay or go. Since Venus, sun, and Mercury are in the 3rd maybe you were in a relationship that never really got past the friend zone, or maybe there is some connection to siblings. You are retrograde Venus combust the sun, so you are probably very stressed about this situation. Venus can gain strength through dignity, but either way Venus is in a stressful place. This is an applying aspect, so the situation will probably get worse before it resolves itself. His significator in your 12th house suggests there is some secrecy or hidden information. It's possible that one or both of you are already in a relationship since the 12th can also rule affairs. Since you are in his 9th house, is this someone you met at school or church? Your co-significator, the moon, in his 1st house suggests you are the one more interested in having a relationship with him. You should add the Part of Fortune also, which might shed more light on the outcome.

Since Venus and Mars are applying to an aspect, a relationship would be possible, but since it's a square it will be a difficult situation. I think the sun might represent another guy, so maybe you will reconcile with him, since the moon is applying to a trine with the sun. The North node in your first house is beneficial to you, but you may realize that a relationship with Mr Mars is not what is best for you. I keep getting the feeling maybe he is the ex of a friend, or some other potentially messy situation. Intuitively, something just feels off about the situation.

I hope this helps.

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Okay, what's interesting about what you wrote is that we're both going through the same thing - being jilted, screwed over, etc. by different people. Different circumstances for each story but still. Yes, feeling torn whether to stay or go. For me I want to go but it takes me awhile to detach. I'm at the end of my healing process I feel though. For him I think the situation is fresh and he is looking for an escape from it (I found out the day after posting this he is going into the army to be an IT guy! Maybe that's what I didn't know before?) About Mercury in the 3rd, etc, YES! Both of us were in "relationships" that never got past the friend zone, how astute. I know he's not in a relationship, and I'm not but he also doesn't know I'm going through the same thing he is. I find it easy to withhold information from him although I don't do it to be malicious or on purpose. You're right in that I'm probably more interested romantically, but he is interested in getting closer and getting to know me overall. He is someone I met at work but he's very Jesus-y! And yes I was trying to reconcile with the other guy before I met this one, and I gave up and that's what I'm getting over now. Actually, the seedy things one would think about Mars in 12th fit the guy I was trying to reconcile with more than this one. I always felt there was someone else, something messy going on, he was too reserved probably so he didn't have to keep track of any lies or anything. That particular endeavor stressed me out way too much.

posted January 11, 2014 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:

For instance, if Saturn is found in the first house, or Ascendant, of the horary figure, the Astrologer must instruct his querent that he is facing depressed health conditions, that he is about to pass through a temporary cloud, and that he may meet with a disappointment of some kind.

FROM: http://www.thelema.ca/156/Astrology/part5.htm

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Wouldn't you know it that this guy struggles with depression, etc.? We sort of bonded over that among other things.

posted January 11, 2014 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
No void of moon - moon is actually in a good place in Taurus.

Venus your signifier is retrograde though...(on top of the Saturn being in the first.)

He may like you, but the goal - relationship - may not happen. Though other signifiers look promising, moon and sun trine for example - the moon is the timeline/path and the last aspect the moon makes is with Saturn...

Not good that he is in the 12th house you want him in the 1st. He is also in detriment in Libra.

I would say he likes you, but that you the relationship you are looking for is not likely to happen at this point. It may take much longer to develop or will happen much later down the line - beyond the scope of this horary.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. LMK how this resonates...Hug!

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