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Astro keen
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posted February 28, 2014 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Chryseis,

It's good to see you here, as ever giving to all most generously. Would you mind taking in look at a solar return, which started in August 2013? A better understanding of this guy and what lies ahead for him would help enormously. Thank you.

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posted March 01, 2014 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has this Pattern:

T-Trine

Here is a very fortunate Chart Type, one that combines both theoretical and practical talent into a single package. This person’s mind is very organized and, in general, they have strong managerial capabilities. They don’t have to study a subject or situation very long to get the gist of it. More often than not, they take it in at a glance, and immediately get the picture, the forest and the trees. This person could be somewhat of a visionary in this regard. I am not suggesting so much Direct Voice (Words from on High) but both clear and accurate vision.

Working in harmony with their fair mind is a powerful practical sense: knowing what to do about a situation. They not only can size it up, but they can move any plan into action—get things done.

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posted March 01, 2014 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Astro keen, I will give it a go. Sometimes I will read different things off the same chart - so I don't know if I'm coming in from a different angle in a way on different occasions or if its all hogwash.

Having said that, I think from memory, I thought your guy friend's ASC wasn't quite right, but I'm not sure if that was the case. It still feels there is a bit of a modification to be allowed for in the SR here though I would tend to feel its pretty close because of the way planets are lying to the angles. So, I have no idea what I think about it - so I will just read it. Usually I can read particularly to the person without worrying too much where the cusps are because it sort of just comes in anyway. But as per usual, I'm quite inconsistent so I may beg to differ on that at any time.

Was he a Leo? This chart says to me, that his constitution is quite good. He does get bloating though related to yeasts, and he gets quite tired bordering on real fatigue, maybe related to the yeasts. I don't know, he may not have to stay off them, and yes do gooders out there, Armm nart therpost tew diachnose, blah blah blah, but yes, in my estimation, he could do with a break from yeasts - including those in the alcoholic varieties of imbibables (if that's even a word).

The Asc:

Cancer, ruler Moon in 4th conjunct Venus: Ouch, good but almost like a bee sting (which reminds me of the honey idea that kept pressing on me when I was talking about the yeasts)...the bee sting, so what is this about. I don't think it would be an actual bee sting - I've looked around the net, I'm not sure what its about except for Mraz and his idea of beestings to relieve autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis etc - I've heard of that name before too - I wouldn't even advocate it - I just saw it there but I don't know what it is about - there is no other information to me about it.

Anyhow, I'm not making headway on all that other than seeing yellows and thinking I can smell honey.

So I'll try Jupiter: The good constitution, but also lots and lots of reading and some communication with like a developer or a real estate person who is possibly in another country.

Mars: More generosity, and I can see jars of lovely sweets like chocolates and delicious things maybe not so much given but available for guests - but they are not appreciated, no one wants to partake - in any great amount. Also something to do with a bib and feeding someone - can't work out if its an adult who's like a baby, or a big baby.

Mercury: Eye wear, astonishingly well priced, and feeling happy with choices and the final one chosen. Also some muckups with mail going to incorrect addresses etc and some embarrassment involved when the person realizes it is actually their fault after questioning this and that.

Sun: Falling asleep, seems like almost sliding off a ruler to fall asleep. Miserable times for getting home, seems late/dark - is it worth it, they might wonder. Some kind of issue with a crack on the outside of the base of the loo, more dramas to be worried about, not exactly feeling great about different things in the abode - having to make several low key complaints.

Venus: Like a strapping to the knee during activity (so maybe there is some arthritic pain there developing). Also musing over whether they will by paintings from artists etc and talk of what kind of show of interior decorating they might have - but there in a level of insecurity in these chats. Though I do think the cash might be there to do get good stuff - its hard to say there is a degree of idealism and a degree of illusion - but generally achievable with what they are dreaming up.

Moon: BBQs and helping to organise them - is there fundraising maybe - a degree of frustration with it all - is it all worth it they think, and they feel like their freckles increase in the process.

Saturn: Something to do with vegetarianism - so not sure exactly but some drama over that. Also something important with big business as seen in the newspapers/news giving a mixture of trepidation and excitement over potentials/shifts/etc in prices/money value something like that.

Node: Some kind of a project on maybe using reeds like for basket weaving or raw materials/commodities.

Vertex: A concert - retro, not sure if it gets seen, could be Pink Floyd because of the light display (do they even exist now?)

Pluto: Tallying up - its almost like a game. Doing the figures, though missing some details that aren't even thought of - excise duty comes to mind as well as other taxes. Also concerns about fire issues due to the structure of the building - looking into things based on what people are saying buildings down the street needed or something.

Neptune: Children or is it still that big baby thing, I'm not sure. No, they are star constellations - the big dipper (ursa major) and others. Its a prophecy. Again, I have no idea, sorry. Its complex, there are global things but also there is something more personal like they will be entering great halls that are lined with something - seems a bit masonic in nature - like a secret/mystery/magic lining the halls - perhaps pertaining to astronomical factors - so quite possibly the seven stars are depicted somehow in this great hall and it echoes, right down into their very being - because it is stratified and constructed magically - literally feeling a hallowed awe type of sensation.

Chiron: shoes that are well made and don't put any extra pressure on bunion prone regions - a deep earthy russetty red almost, with a beige lining and little perforations over the outer as decoration, and maybe even a Sherwood forest green pair (if that's a colour, lol). Terrible moments of stuff like a case falling open and all the contents spilling for all to see. Rushing around and possible almost spraining an ankle. There is a slight out of sync feeling with where the person will be - its very alchemical and pagan in nature - it seems like a sacrifice is to be made so as to align the person to a place regularly attended. I have never believed in sacrifice so this is a revelation to me. Ok so here goes, it seems like you have to count back to the vernal equinox, though that hasn't as yet happened for this SR atm. Ok so the right ascension at the vernal equinox was originally in aries but now it is in Pisces. So I think the 'precession' is what the counting back is about. Yes so something to do with the vernal equinox - there is something that can be better aligned - as to the sacrifice - it might just be about foregoing something - so sorry its totally confusing to me - I'm sure it could be clearer but is probably not supposed to be, anyway I have no idea.

Uranus: Paying for papers from far away - works out to be quite an expense - maybe sizing up properties - like to do with wish lists.

I didn't do the houses, but I think there could be some speculating on investing in what most likely looks to be property.


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Chryseis
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posted March 01, 2014 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry EllynIvx, I was typing whilst you posted, good insight of yours there

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Ellynlvx
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posted March 01, 2014 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen things you've written, and been very impressed by them, as well as by the helpful nature you have shown.

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Astro keen
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posted March 01, 2014 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
It has this Pattern:

T-Trine

Here is a very fortunate Chart Type, one that combines both theoretical and practical talent into a single package. This person’s mind is very organized and, in general, they have strong managerial capabilities. They don’t have to study a subject or situation very long to get the gist of it. More often than not, they take it in at a glance, and immediately get the picture, the forest and the trees. This person could be somewhat of a visionary in this regard. I am not suggesting so much Direct Voice (Words from on High) but both clear and accurate vision.

Working in harmony with their fair mind is a powerful practical sense: knowing what to do about a situation. They not only can size it up, but they can move any plan into action—get things done.


Ellynlvx, thank you. Yes, he has a very keen mind and thinks in a logical, organised manner. I like the rest - I wonder if it would also apply to me, because interestingly enough, my solar return for the same period is awash with grand trines. These did not occur the year before and will not the year after, so perhaps it is this year that sees high activity in these mental abilities. I'll post a thumbnail of mine here, as soon as I find it!

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posted March 01, 2014 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I had the information for the reading, I could just give you all the pertinent Patterns.

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Ellynlvx
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posted March 01, 2014 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cause I'm not a Solar Return person per se; I just recognized the Pattern, hinged on that Angular Jupiter.

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Astro keen
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posted March 01, 2014 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hello Astro keen, I will give it a go. Sometimes I will read different things off the same chart - so I don't know if I'm coming in from a different angle in a way on different occasions or if its all hogwash.

Good to hear from you Chryseis and thank you. No hogwash here and you can see why below.

Having said that, I think from memory, I thought your guy friend's ASC wasn't quite right, but I'm not sure if that was the case. It still feels there is a bit of a modification to be allowed for in the SR here though I would tend to feel its pretty close because of the way planets are lying to the angles. So, I have no idea what I think about it - so I will just read it. Usually I can read particularly to the person without worrying too much where the cusps are because it sort of just comes in anyway. But as per usual, I'm quite inconsistent so I may beg to differ on that at any time.

I changed the birth time to an earlier one from the one that I'd posted earlier. Although, it wasn't quite as early as the one you had suggested - as it turned out, that wouldn't have been possible - but it was almost an hour and half earlier. This was confirmed by a psychic friend. Incidentally, with this new birth time his ASC and my Sun fall at the same degree - it was an eureka moment, so I settled for it. We now have an Asc/Sun DW.

I find that the close aspects in our charts are immensely reassuring - it is these, rightly or wrongly, that makes me think that I shouldn't doubt as much. Particularly as my intuition seems to tells me contradictory things. This basically means I am confused.

Was he a Leo? This chart says to me, that his constitution is quite good. He does get bloating though related to yeasts, and he gets quite tired bordering on real fatigue, maybe related to the yeasts. I don't know, he may not have to stay off them, and yes do gooders out there, Armm nart therpost tew diachnose, blah blah blah, but yes, in my estimation, he could do with a break from yeasts - including those in the alcoholic varieties of imbibables (if that's even a word).

Yes, he's a Leo and very fit. And he doesn't like bread which ties in with the 'yeast' issue.

The Asc:
Cancer, ruler Moon in 4th conjunct Venus: Ouch, good but almost like a bee sting (which reminds me of the honey idea that kept pressing on me when I was talking about the yeasts)...the bee sting, so what is this about. I don't think it would be an actual bee sting - I've looked around the net, I'm not sure what its about except for Mraz and his idea of beestings to relieve autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis etc - I've heard of that name before too - I wouldn't even advocate it - I just saw it there but I don't know what it is about - there is no other information to me about it.

It is so interesting that you should pick up on bee stings - excellent evidence that you have an authentic link. It was a while ago he mentioned he'd read an article on the health benefits of bee stings.

So I'll try Jupiter: The good constitution, but also lots and lots of reading and some communication with like a developer or a real estate person who is possibly in another country.

Very likely. He is interested in buying a property in another country.

Mars: More generosity, and I can see jars of lovely sweets like chocolates and delicious things maybe not so much given but available for guests - but they are not appreciated, no one wants to partake - in any great amount. Also something to do with a bib and feeding someone - can't work out if its an adult who's like a baby, or a big baby.

Could this be referring to a niece who's come to live with him whilst she gets onto her feet?

Mercury: Eye wear, astonishingly well priced, and feeling happy with choices and the final one chosen. Also some muckups with mail going to incorrect addresses etc and some embarrassment involved when the person realizes it is actually their fault after questioning this and that.

Yes, this rings true. He wears glasses and only remarked the other day that the post in his country is most unreliable.

Sun: Falling asleep, seems like almost sliding off a ruler to fall asleep. Miserable times for getting home, seems late/dark - is it worth it, they might wonder. Some kind of issue with a crack on the outside of the base of the loo, more dramas to be worried about, not exactly feeling great about different things in the abode - having to make several low key complaints.

True again. He works very late and is never home in day time and often wonders if this work is worth it. Not happy with his rented flat.

The other impressions you had for Venus, Saturn. Uranus etc all ring true.

Neptune: Children or is it still that big baby thing, I'm not sure. No, they are star constellations - the big dipper (ursa major) and others. Its a prophecy. Again, I have no idea, sorry. Its complex, there are global things but also there is something more personal like they will be entering great halls that are lined with something - seems a bit masonic in nature - like a secret/mystery/magic lining the halls - perhaps pertaining to astronomical factors - so quite possibly the seven stars are depicted somehow in this great hall and it echoes, right down into their very being - because it is stratified and constructed magically - literally feeling a hallowed awe type of sensation.

This sounds intriguing but I don't think I understand it!

Chiron: shoes that are well made and don't put any extra pressure on bunion prone regions - a deep earthy russetty red almost, with a beige lining and little perforations over the outer as decoration, and maybe even a Sherwood forest green pair (if that's a colour, lol).

Wow! He has a brown pair exactly as you describe.

There is a slight out of sync feeling with where the person will be - its very alchemical and pagan in nature - it seems like a sacrifice is to be made so as to align the person to a place regularly attended. I have never believed in sacrifice so this is a revelation to me. Ok so here goes, it seems like you have to count back to the vernal equinox, though that hasn't as yet happened for this SR atm.

This again sounds very interesting!

Chryseis, you have come up with very accurate impressions. It is as if you are given images from one of those modern films that expect you to weave the story together. I wondered if the chart reveals anything about relationships or how these might turn out or what his attitudes towards relationships might be like. Does the conjunction of Moon and Venus in the 4th imply anything here or do the 5th and the 7th house reveal something perhaps?

In an attempt to show my appreciation in some small way, could I read angel cards for you? I have Angel messages and Angle romance cards, in case you are interested.

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posted March 01, 2014 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't get a lot of relationship feel but more about speculation on a purchase, so yes, the 5th can be about speculation and being in Libra there's money involved.

With the mutual reception of Saturn in 5th Scorpio and Pluto in 7th Capricorn, there is a level of partnership commitment but it tends to feel like it is more about serving own purposes which is a little anathema to the ideal of partnership.

I found it difficult to read the chart - like when someone is standing in front of something and all you can get is bits that you can glimpse, under the arms and at the sides etc. So I take it that there is a barrier on a lot and maybe I have assumed in some spots as well.

The Neptune paragraph: I don't know what that is about either. There was an impression of the big dipper constellation, but that it was also inherent in a great hall where the person will probably enter. The great hall had masonry mysteries, and there is a prophecy inherent there - so I googled around and found stuff about Isaac Newton and Freemasonry - but I'm not exactly sure where the great hall is - and maybe its a quest.

Thank you Astro keen, I would like a reading. I love readings from others. I would love if possibe two small readings. One, could you do an Angel message for me on asking "What is the message for me regarding the next 6 months?". Secondly, an Angel Romance reading just as it comes to you.

Thank you so much, sorry I can't enlighten myself or you any further on the SR. I find I can only read what is available to me - and sometimes its absolutely nebulous

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posted March 02, 2014 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for all your effort Chryseis. It may be that I need to turn to my own intuition rather than seek answers in charts. If you get an intuitive feel for something that relates to me, then always let me know,

It would be a pleasure to read for you. Thank you for asking. Here's what I got.

Angel messages:
Fiona
"Now that you've asked the Angels for help, be open to receiving divine guidance and assistance. You deserve heaven's help!

I am so happy that you asked for help from God and the Angels. I'm here to ask you to be open to our help. Sometimes I watch you struggle with situations that could easily be resolved if you would let me help you. I wait for you to give me any signal - of prayer or a thought of HELP! - so that I can become involved in the solution.

I am very glad to assist you. Because, you see, at other times, you have blocked me from doing so. You believed that you didn't deserve any help or that making necessary life changes was too threatening. Remember that I'm here to help you to ease your mind. I need you to trust my guidance.

Notice the strong and repetitious impressions that come to you through your thoughts, feelings and visions. They are real messages from God - through me, to you. We won't let you fail in any way. You are fully supported by heaven as you follow your divine guidance."

Romance Angels Message:

"Let go of control issues - allow this situation to unfold naturally.
The romance angels have heard your prayers about your love life. Now it's up to you to allow their help to manifest by stepping out of their way. By trying to control other people, or external circumstances, you only frustrate yourself and slow down your answered prayer. There are plenty of times in life that call for you to take charge, but this isn't one of them.

Of course, it's fine to have your preferences, practice visualisations, and hold intentions. Definitely ask the angels for your desires. This card is a reminder, however, that your prayer may be answered differently from what you had in mind. Be open to all possibilities and trust in God's infinite wisdom and compassionate love.

Control issues are based upon fears that others (including God) won't live up to your expectations. This is also called 'outlining', where you hand the universe a script of how you want it and everyone to behave. Outlining could cause you to overlook an even more beautiful way in which your prayers may be answered.

So, please call upon the romance Angels to elevate your levels of trust so that you can enjoy the creative avenues by which true love comes to you."

Two complimentary but general messages and I hope these help.

p.s. Could you tell me if you lost someone close to you whom you still grieve? I ask because a card fell out when I was shuffling and I wondered it it had some meaning for you.

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posted March 02, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Astro keen, yes I will be sure to pass on any insights. At the moment, I'm getting a lot of stand out coincidences so I'm watching for how things unfold - I don't have anything more to tell than what I have already.

Thank you so much for the reading, I've never used Angel cards, very profound - and good to meditate on.

Well, no one has died but there could be a couple of things to do with that grief and loss thing. I had planned to move interstate. I had sold my house, quit my job, and everything was going fairly smoothly. Then with only a few weeks before I was going to skidaddle, I became very unwell with a virus and it took me several weeks to get over. During that time I had kind of an epiphany that I wouldn't be able to relocate and when I finally realised it fully, I went through this tremendous grief over the loss of not being able to continue with my plans -I was initially devastated, but in hindsight it is best anyway as I realise I was going way out on a limb with some of my wacky ideas.

Most significantly, all this was going on whilst Venus was carrying on, retrograding and all the rest of it through Capricorn in my 12th house. Natally, I have Venus on my 8th cusp quincunx Saturn in my 2nd. I've been pretty much in solitary confinement but thank god Venus enters my 1st house in just over a week.

So yes there was a definite sense that I was grieving for the self that was going to do a heap of what seemed to be fab things and I guess I felt it was like a last bid for freedom. Ok, so I was running away to join the proverbial circus, what of it, haha. Anyway, I got cosmically tackled and I still have carpet burn on my cheek - chuckle

And I can't read anything much for myself at all. Well that is...maybe I can't read for anyone, after all that SR reading probably didn't say much - but I did my best. I need to focus on themes rather than specifics. Thanks again.

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