posted March 15, 2014 02:51 AM            

Honestly, I'm one of those people who can interpret charts for other people but can't even interpret my own. So I really do need help with this one.

posted March 15, 2014 12:23 PM            

The Saturn-Neptune-Mars T-Square may have something to do with it as well.

"Saturn Square Neptune: The Self Defeatist,
The square indicates inner tensions and frustrations, and it is likely that Neptune will be inhibited from true realisation and will be bound within the unconscious mind by the barrier-forming restrictions of Saturn. This will cause Neptune to be agitatory, stimulating unconscious fears, anxieties, phobias, morbidity and guilt feelings arising from an overactive imagination which lacks suitable channels for a more healthy release. The consequences of this inner pressure and disquiet tend to create feelings of inadequacy, incompetence and inferiority. These may be quite illusory and unrealistic, yet they have a powerful influence on your actions and choices. As time passes and you perpetuate these tendencies, you continue to create negative results, which convinces you that such inferiority beliefs are actually true. You become a self-defeatist, and lack confidence in your own abilities. This negativity can spread until you begin to run away from accepting responsibility or challenges. Denial of any aspect leads to its suppression into the unconscious mind, where it is likely to fester, slowly releasing poisons into the personality within the appropriate level of natural affinity, distorting body, emotions or mind. Such a forced cutting away of part of your nature is never wise, and is as foolish as cutting away an arm because there may be an unsightly mole on it. In accepting your own nature, self-forgiveness is required, and a refusal to compare yourself to any illusory ideal of perfection. Why feel guilty because you are not like an ideal? You never can be, and your real task is just to become yourself, warts and all; and coming to terms with that is a great freedom and liberation in itself. Face those fears of failure. Talents are there within you; they are just hiding out of sight. Find that pot of gold around the corner, and perhaps with a bit of support from others you'll learn how to really use it. All of those inner illusions, guilt trips, inferiority complexes and phobias can dissipate like chimeras in the sky. The self-imposed barriers of Saturn will collapse, and Neptune will flow through, healing you and inspiring you to find a new way."

Source: Planet in aspects,Robert Pelleters

That probably has a lot to do with it. The Mars-Saturn Opposition makes you very critical of others and even more critical of yourself. I have this aspect as well. It becomes hard to get rid of all insecurity even when you know they exist. I feel as though getting over this one sometimes requires a subconscious realization.

Mars Square Neptune gives you a "basic lack self-confidence" and a "fear of rejection."

posted March 15, 2014 12:44 PM            

I do believe my purpose in life is to show the world who I really am--the real and unique me since the apex of the Yod in my chart is Uranus and it's opposing my Sun.

posted March 15, 2014 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Attractive people have better genes. So when searching for a mate we try to find one that we can have viable offspring with.

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Wait.. so the less attractive a person is, the worse genes they have?

posted March 15, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by KingofCups:
I can't help but answer this question. I really hope that that's not what the first post meant because that is very far from the truth. However, people who are more attractive are instinctively perceived to have better genes. That's why we prefer to breed with them. And while it is true that they have good genes as far as looks go, that doesn't mean that they have good genes as far as everything else goes.

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posted March 15, 2014 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Wait.. so the less attractive a person is, the worse genes they have?

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posted March 15, 2014 04:34 PM            

Here's my two cents. I agree with some of the insights into your chart, but what people see is more of a perception of others. Your character is the most important at least in my book.

I used to have an interest in guys closer t my own age, then older guys and then guys my own age again. After all of that, I then started focusing on compatibility as my interest and now I'm seeing more guys that like me the way I am and vice versa.

posted March 15, 2014 05:01 PM            

Sun in 2nd....I have Venus in 2nd...is not the same but still I think it could indicate self esteem issues...as the 2nd house rules that and also our value...and well I thing thats and indication.

Also Venus in virgo, I have asc virgo and moon there...so that's another aspect since virgo is shy and tend to be hard on themselves

posted March 15, 2014 09:10 PM            

I have been very insecure my whole life and when I was in my teens got moved from country to city and was already extremely poor. I was so uncomfortable with the way the rich city girls dressed at school and it made me hate myself more so I got a job and I would buy myself nice clothes etc. I went through a paradigm shift and realized that not only were the things I was emphasizing unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but that trying to fit an image of something that did not truly represent me made it so much worse, and I did not like the people I attracted to me at that time. I have always loved care-free hippies but felt that I couldn't be that because I was too insecure and cared to much about appearances. But then I realized that the people who dressed the way I TRULY preferred also represented qualities that I truly preferred in humans. I started working somewhere unconventional and I absolutely loved how the women I worked with there were happy or at least unconcerned with the way they looked and most don't even wear make-up, it was a really refreshing difference where before I worked with girls who always made it feel like they were competing with each other to look the best. And I also realized that I actually found these people more beautiful, and not only that but real as well. Their true beauty could truly be seen without the insecure mask of make-up and superficiality that so many others wear and it was like their were just glowing to be themselves and not concerned so much with their appearance. And it made me realize that I wanted to be like that. So although I still have a lot of insecurities I am so much happier with myself now that I don't feel I have to waste my time trying to do make-up (I always hated standing in front of the mirror looking at myself for so long anyway and it always felt like such a waste of time) but it was so freeing for me to be able to let go of those false images of what I thought I needed to look like in order to look good to other people. Now I think almost all make-up unless very subtle looks clownish, but I never liked red lipsticks or anything anyway they seem so garish and chemically on the lips. But anyway the moral of the story is I am much happier with my appearance now.

I only share the story because it seems like it is bothering you that appearances mean so much n(if it makes you late and stuff) but maybe you would be happier with your looks if you realized that not everyone thinks you look better for wearing make-up and that others are probably not even paying as much attention to your appearance as you think (cause they are probably too concerned with their own haha).

posted March 15, 2014 09:15 PM            

I pick my friends based on the way they look. How terrible would it be if i had friends who i considered unattractive? I would be very sad if one of my friends felt i was unattractive--i would assume they are not my real friend and dont truly appreciate me.

posted March 15, 2014 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
If someome walks into a room, cant you usually tell what kind of personality they will have just by looking at these things?

I pick my friends based on the way they look. How terrible would it be if i had friends who i considered unattractive? I would be very sad if one of my friends felt i was unattractive--i would assume they are not my real friend and dont truly appreciate me.

Basically you will look attractive to the people who will get along with you. How terrible would it be if u had a friend you felt was unattractive?---you would feel somewhat uncomfortable being around them, and maybe like you couldnt even look at their face. I would argue that this is due to the person's personality rather than the way they look. We do not realize it but your personality literally Makes the way that you look. Body language and facial expression goes a looong way in making you look like the person you do trust me when i say this

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I have an aspect in my chart that causes my body language to not convey my true feelings. Have you ever considered this? This is why I seriously resent when people try to pigeon hole me according to my looks. We are all so complex and constantly shifting so to try and say you know how someone is by the way they dress or even their body language is not accurate.

And I do NOT judge my friends on the way they look, I judge on how they make me feel and how their energy feels. I have friends who society would not consider the most attractive but I think they have beautiful souls.

posted March 15, 2014 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by KingofCups:
Idk if this is just me or if this applies to other guys too, but I feel as though a lot of girls get ready to impress/compete with other girls more often than to impress guys. As in, most guys don't take too much notice to a misplaced hair or slightly bad makeup. Tbh, I hate it when girls overdo their makeup. I would much rather they not put any on than overdo it. Basically, if you look beautiful, then you look beautiful. You don't have to do anything extra. And as someone said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If a guy doesn't see as you as beautiful, then it's not the end of the world. But it's when a guy who sees you when you're not trying, a guy who sees you for who you are, who thinks you're beautiful no matter what who is truly worth getting ready for.

The saying goes, you must learn to love yourself before you are truly able to love another. So be you, love you, and someone else will love you just the same. Don't worry about it too much.

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Yes I do agree with this. I have a hard time with a lot of women because I can not stand how they compete with each other. I want nothing to do with that. My mind does is not conveyed through how I look, my mind is so complex, my looks are simple. And it's funny cause most women act like they hate me more now that I refuse to play that competition game with them. Or they accept me as I do them.

posted March 15, 2014 10:33 PM            

To take an astrological outlook on it, what if someone's Ascendant and the rest of them were incompatible? Then the world sees them as completely different than what they really are.

To address RAS's theory, I don't think that it's totally wrong. There's actually a lot of truth to it. HOWEVER, we don't take into account their physical appearance as much as we do their body language and modes of expression. This is because no one has control over what they look like.

I'll give an example of a gorgeous girl in my class. She is definitely beautiful, and physically speaking, I am attracted to her, but beyond that I'm not, because our personalities clash. And another example is a girl who I don't find physically attractive but whose personality makes me want to be around her. So, he's right in that if you don't like the way a person expresses his/herself, then you won't find yourself attracted to them. But he's not entirely correct when he says that you have to find your friends attractive. I don't think that my friends are ugly, but I don't think that they're attractive either.

posted March 16, 2014 01:23 AM            

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Originally posted by KingofCups:
I actually really like it when girls don't play that game. But then again, I really like to aggravate people who partake in competitions like that

To take an astrological outlook on it, what if someone's Ascendant and the rest of them were incompatible? Then the world sees them as completely different than what they really are.

To address RAS's theory, I don't think that it's totally wrong. There's actually a lot of truth to it. HOWEVER, we don't take into account their physical appearance as much as we do their body language and modes of expression. This is because no one has control over what they look like.

I'll give an example of a gorgeous girl in my class. She is definitely beautiful, and physically speaking, I am attracted to her, but beyond that I'm not, because our personalities clash. And another example is a girl who I don't find physically attractive but whose personality makes me want to be around her. So, he's right in that if you don't like the way a person expresses his/herself, then you won't find yourself attracted to them. But he's not entirely correct when he says that you have to find your friends attractive. I don't think that my friends are ugly, but I don't think that they're attractive either.

Going back to the Ascendant vs inner-self thing, when someone walks into a room, you see their Ascendant, not their inner-self, and depending on how quickly they open up, it might take a long time beyond that to figure out how someone really is.

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posted March 16, 2014 12:43 PM            

And when i have sun conjunct venus with someone i always think theyre beautiful...from when they were a baby in the crib to now, and even till old age. I think my grandma is beautiful and adorable.