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Spritualjourney
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posted April 14, 2014 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spritualjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from the Q you asked in Hanna's thread...

I'm getting that the situation will go where you want it to go...how back/awkward you want to make it. You are in control here...you definitely have the upper hand. I'm getting it's best for you to acknowledge him at the wedding, in a very non-attached way and then remain detached. He enjoys knowing he can get a reaction from you and it feeds his ego. Let him go in all senses...you got what you needed from that relationship...you no longer need him in your life and he is in fact 'toxic'. It is to your benefit to not spend anymore time or energy thinking/worrying about him...he's part of the past, leave him there. Do not let his presence in your extended family ruin your interaction with them. He's now an insignificant part of your life.

Hope this resonate.

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cherful24
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posted April 14, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yep he's a toxic piece of crap. this is just becoming a joke. There has to be a life lesson learned on this with me and him or whatever. I don't know but we have Saturn conjunct Sun or the other way around whatever it is that means life lessons. this is not pleasant.

I'm just tired of this. I want my life to be happy and successful. this whole thing is becoming an embarrassment.

anyway thanks for the reading!

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cherful24
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posted April 14, 2014 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see it being a potential of becoming friends

so I don't necessarily see him right now being anything more than a coworker that's where his mind is.

you're very pleasing to the eye to him so I don't know that means he's attracted to you, also attracted by your personality and your laughter

but I can't say right now he's thinking romantic so he can have to develop more

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Spritualjourney
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posted April 14, 2014 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spritualjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Cherful.

The lesson is in how you handle relationships that have 'wronged' you. You need to learn to forgive and let go...really let go, to the point when you think of them no emotions arise, you are neutral. It's partially about boundaries too, learning to set your own boundaries and learning how to not let people cross them. There maybe more lessons too, but this is what's coming out strong. Until you've learned this you will keep having people in your life that will 'teach' these to you.

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cherful24
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posted April 14, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally see what you're saying and I would agree with that

so yeah I've had him and a couple of other mishaps with men but this was the one that was a really bad he did so much wrong to me

Here's a spiritual question.....what happens to him what happened to these damn people who do horrible things to someone to make them learn a lesson?? if everything is predestined ....so I have this lesson to learn from him ....that means his behavior and actions were predestined..... so how does that work, how can Karma say..... this person can come into your life and do bad things to you so you can learn boundaries Exedra but how is that fair to the other person if karma is going to punish that person when he was just doing what he was predestined to do.

but, the world of karma says you'll get what you give . if he was abusive he should also be getting abused.

but you know what that's not at all how it works. in reality that would not be correct because the abusers will always be the abuser, they will never be abused.

maybe he has another life lesson and karma will pay him a visit but definitely that's not fair. it's an eye for an eye. if you abuse someone and you should get abused if you stole from someone then someone should steal from you Exedra

the more I learn about spirituality, the more I believe that its crap. life happens and we deal with it. it's a simple as that.

that's my outtake!

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venuscorpio86
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posted April 14, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you can find happiness Cherful! Everyone deserves happiness! Men are awful sometimes! Never had a really great experience myself....it taking a mental toll and also on my self-esteem....

spiritual would you like to do a quick exchange? Or are you done with exchanges for now? I always love your readings

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Spritualjourney
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posted April 14, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spritualjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
I totally see what you're saying and I would agree with that

so yeah I've had him and a couple of other mishaps with men but this was the one that was a really bad he did so much wrong to me

Here's a spiritual question.....what happens to him what happened to these damn people who do horrible things to someone to make them learn a lesson?? if everything is predestined ....so I have this lesson to learn from him ....that means his behavior and actions were predestined..... so how does that work, how can Karma say..... this person can come into your life and do bad things to you so you can learn boundaries Exedra but how is that fair to the other person if karma is going to punish that person when he was just doing what he was predestined to do.

but, the world of karma says you'll get what you give . if he was abusive he should also be getting abused.

but you know what that's not at all how it works. in reality that would not be correct because the abusers will always be the abuser, they will never be abused.

maybe he has another life lesson and karma will pay him a visit but definitely that's not fair. it's an eye for an eye. if you abuse someone and you should get abused if you stole from someone then someone should steal from you Exedra

the more I learn about spirituality, the more I believe that its crap. life happens and we deal with it. it's a simple as that.

that's my outtake!


I'm sorry you feel that way. There are many levels of spirituality...you don't have to go meditate for 5 hours each day and eat only vegan...for me it's about not taking things personal, letting things go, seeing the good/positive/love, learning to accept and being grateful. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion/view of how things works/are. My understanding of how karma works is not necessarily an eye for an eye. It's about the energy that's created in consequence to an action. Thoughts also create karma...negative thoughts, thoughts of hatred...these all contribute, sometimes just as strong as an action itself. For me, the premise behind spirituality is to see beyond the ego and connect with the good in people, their soul, their love, all part of the oneness. Being 'good' creates karma too....loving thoughts and loving actions.


Also, just because he may appear to not be getting his karmic dues doesn't mean he isn't or won't. The point is don't get worked up focusing your energy and thoughts on why HE isn't being punished, focus on YOU. Focusing on why he's isn't being punished...those thoughts are creating bad energy and wishing bads thoughts onto others in itself creates more bad karma for you.

Also, what we go through in our lives is not just about karma, it's about life lessons too, those you need to learn to grow and elevate to a better place. It's hard as hell going through these lessons...but so satisfying when you look back and realise you've made it and it wasn't so bad. Then when faced with same/similar scenario you find yourself handling it much better, easier.

Also, just food for thought, since you do believe in the 'eye for an eye' than maybe what you're experiencing now may be karmic events you did in past lives? Maybe this is your time to 'be punished'? (I'm just playing devil's advocate here).

When I first started with my spirituality, I was filled with hatred, a feeling of injustice, pain but decided I'd had enough feeling that way... with years and years of battling and working on this, I can say I'm finally at a place where I'm more grounded, balanced and in peace. I look back now and am actually grateful to those people that came into my life to help me learn those lessons. It has brought me to where I am today (at the time I wished them every bad thought possible). I've noticed growth within my self, this weekend being a perfect example for me. Years ago, if I had discovered that someone had cheated on me and our relationship had ended, I'd still be in bed crying...probably for a few months and I'd always hold onto that negativity, store it inside and develop trust issues in my next relationship...go over scenarios, putting myself through so much pain and anguish. Yes, I had my weekend of pain, felt sorry for myself, the usual, but I'm back on my feet, life is amazing and ain't nobody going to interfere with my happiness.

Anyways, it's your choice whether you believe or don't believe in being 'spiritual'....but try some various readings/exercising on letting go. I sense a lot of anger and resentment from you and it's only doing you harm. Forgive Cherful, you're a beautiful soul, let yourself shine.

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Spritualjourney
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posted April 14, 2014 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spritualjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by venuscorpio86:
I hope you can find happiness Cherful! Everyone deserves happiness! Men are awful sometimes! Never had a really great experience myself....it taking a mental toll and also on my self-esteem....

spiritual would you like to do a quick exchange? Or are you done with exchanges for now? I always love your readings



Thank you Venus I'm really tired now, it's late where I am. You can leave your Q if you'd like I'll try to give you a reading tomorrow

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venuscorpio86
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posted April 14, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will him and I reconcile? How is he feeling about me???

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