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fauxcoat
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posted April 24, 2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LostTaurus
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posted April 24, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both your Mars and your Sun are in your 8th house - the house of other peoples' money, sex, spirituality, emotion....and transformation. Mars is the planet of anger, sex, passion (read: aggression). Honestly? You may rub them the wrong way, and they may not even quite realize why.

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posted April 24, 2014 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I am not aggressive....at all. That is the issue I am having. They are the ones who are aggressive with me. I could be sitting there doing nothing and people will come over and start acting up towards me. My mars is in libra and I have no fight in me at all so I just take it but it surprises me that people who I thought I was on good terms with start acting up towards me/talking about me.

What is it that I am doing wrong and how can I make things better?

If I have all the planets in the 8th house, does this mean I rub people the wrong way all the time? In any circumstance? How can I even go on if I do this to people and I don't know it? I will spend my life irritating people and they will act up towards me and I will feel hurt. That is no way to live.

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posted April 24, 2014 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I think you bring out the aggression in them. It almost feels like a 'cull the weak' mentality at work - like they see you as "easy prey". Take a Krav Maga class; find something to help you balance out your yin and yang in a healthy way. It will go a LOONG way in helping you feel stronger in yourself, and will balance the energy that makes them feel, right now, like it's okay to randomly treat you that way. It's not.

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posted April 24, 2014 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus (asc ruler)) above your chart, plus your 2nd ruler Saturn in Leo in 7th house. Saturn in Leo is weak..debilitated. He's in your 7th house of partnerships and open enemies. Saturn is also your 12th house ruler of secret/hidden enemies and it's in your 7th house of partnerships/open enemies plus it's debilitated (read about saturn in leo, saturn in 7th house, etc).

It happens a lot to me, especially in public. I get both negative and positive attention, but wish I could get none. While in my early 20's people would comment out
Loud their dislike for me, or something.

I have both Saturn and Uranus above my chart near 9th/10th houses and I'm Aqua rising. Also Saturn influences my 7th house because it squares my Sun and Mercury which are both in my 7th house (Virgo). I also have Venus in Libra in the 8th house trine Uranus..I just noticed you have Venus there as well

Hope that helps a bit

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posted April 24, 2014 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it mean that Saturn is in my 12th and 7th house. Saturn rules Capricorn and Capricorns get what they want. Why is it that I get hurt...something I don't want.

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posted April 24, 2014 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed your Saturn squares your Neptune in 9th (house of philosophy, belief systems) as well - that can lend a self-defeatist attitude to your other tough placements.

Ultimately, I believe our placements are the way they are in order to present challenges and teach us lessons. It's up to us whether we rise to those challenges and confront those lessons or not. That said, you're perfectly capable of rising to every one of them, and learning the lessons as they come your way. The power lay within you.

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posted April 25, 2014 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn actually trines my Neptune in the 10th house.

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posted April 25, 2014 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HAA! You're right. I was looking at the wrong placement - I should pay better attention, sorry about that. That's a good thing for you though. What I said about having the power within still stands. You're better and stronger than you give yourself credit for. Until you acknowledge it, no one else will.

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posted April 25, 2014 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello fauxcoat!
I am sorry for this. Even tough I am a newby in here, just wanted to share my thoughts.
You have 6 planets in 8th, well, everything important that happends in your life it has place on the emotional level rather than the active/action level.
A moon in 8th house(esp in libra) means that the person doesn't feel good when personal confrontation crop up and wants to evade, with mars
is your will challenged? by other people, parteners

saturn in 7th house doesn't help either for people instantly merge with you and to have bubbly, easy-going relationship with them( saturn in 1st house talking here) but it helps you in the long run to establish commited partenrships , if badly aspected brings not only troubles in love but ofc with the enemies

what caught my attention here, was chiron in 3rd house...chiron is where the wounds appear, you have it in the house of communication, probably that is why you are deeply wounded by what other ppl say to you ( do you have any siblings?) it also could indicate harsh criticism from parents/siblings, ever since you were little?/ or the longing of having siblings( to protect you)
here's what I found abb it:
Criticism may stem from a lot of areas in your life and personality. It can be about a way in which you chose to express yourself or a certain action you performed. The criticism can be either intentional or unintentional, but it will be there and you will need to cope with it. Your reaction might be either submissive or aggressive. You may either take it to heart and become hurt or you might become too shy to speak out. You might even have trouble expressing yourself and so any reaction you may have may take some time to manifest.

also, It occured my mind that your chiron squares/opposites your planets in 8th, esp venus..
chiron square venus is a heavy karmic debt, someone with this aspect had a lot of male incarnations,(or viceversa) and now it is obliged to have a female one...high sensitivity comes from your anima that is new with the whole situation, and has to cope with harshness of life, not having the same strength as before, and this can cause deep wounds

what I see postive is an unstressed jupiter, I think it trines the sun? it is a VERY lucky position,
and pluto?
it can highten the power you posses, and brings material benefits

sorry If I am way-off,
but a packed 8th house ..all these planets in the house of scorp, it means you will crash in many ways, just to get up stronger, you have a powerful personality, work with your self and forget the rest ( you might as well be surounded by idiots)
^^ best of luck

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posted April 25, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Taurus - no worries. I frequently describe placements that are in other houses or signs all the time - and I is my own chart! I appreciate your insight.

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posted April 25, 2014 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Empress - we have similar charts. I feel too that I get negative and positive attention, it is more negative as of late, and I wish that I could just blend in and not have all this worry stemming from other people. Thanks so much for your help.

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posted April 25, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ starlitroad - wow, that was a pretty accurate view of my chart. Yes, I have a sibling and my relationship with him is poor - he cause me a lot of pain. My entire family causes me a lot of pain.

I think something must have happened in another life time for me to have all this strife against me in this one. The sad thing is I don't have any defense mechanisms to deal with the strife.

Unfortunately for me, my Jupiter is retrograde natally so I don't reap much rewards from Jupiter. Pluto is in a powerful position, but I do not feel that I have any power and even if I were to gain power, I would never use it or show it off as I wouldn't want others to feel intimidated by me. I have a horrible chart that shows a lot of stress and strife and no ability to stand up for myself in this lifetime.

Thank you so much for your help; what great insight.

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posted April 25, 2014 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again fauxcoat!^^
there is no such thing as a difficult chart. I admit I had the same opinion, but the afflictions push you forward..I've seen some charts with 17-20 squares, but ppl just would not give up. That is what you have to do! And I mean you to relly on pluto, to be a powerful person for yourself, not to intimidate people,but for you to be your best friend. If you feel like family is not responding than try to connect with friends, ..there is always a way out, you need healthy relationships..there stil are good people.
As for jup retrograde..don't know how that is activated..perhaps you feel unlucky and you are a worrier planner? Retrograde planets do not denny happyiness,love or luck in this case..
they delay them, but that doesn't mean that good things will never come
So try to remember that people are strugglin everywhere,ok? And you need to get strong. If u become your best friend there is no chance that harshness and criticism wil hurt you bcz you will know how important you are.Try and think. Is that criticism really necessary? Does it help me as a person in any way? If it poisonous, I think you know you have to take it to the trash-can, If people criticise your choices, let's say (it's just an example) - they criticise your best-friend who has a negative influence, etc.. than you don't need to take it to the heart, you know, try to be honest and to listen to your inner self. What is it good, what is it posionous.
It is fortunate to be able to talk to you, u have most of your planets in the house of the other, and I have enough planets in the house of the individual.I can share my opinion on how to concentrate on you ( without being selfish, and mean to your family). Listen if you ever want to talk abb anything, I will be here, ok?
I mean it

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posted April 26, 2014 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would be great! I could definitely use the help. Life has been very difficult for a long while. Thank you for your guidance!

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posted April 26, 2014 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be glad to listen. No need to thank me^^ I am just a newbie with no astrolgycal experience but I can always listen and share some thoughts with you

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posted April 26, 2014 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the cause of criticism from others due to chiron? Why are others so critical of me when they themselves are no angels? It is like they want to point their fingers at me but all the while they are the ones who are really behaving badly...not me. The criticism is definitely difficult to take so what you said is very accurate. Is there anything in my chart that would indicate ways I can deal with the chiron problem?

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posted April 27, 2014 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello!!^^
well, again I am just making some assumptions, hope not really far-fetched, but what I think you must first focus is on your emotions (moon) your moon is in libra, so maybe if you get support from a significant other, that can help you with kindness and love, it should be easier to deal with. But firstly it has to come from you. watch what aspects you have with the moon? are they hard aspects?

I just tought, if your emotions are on the positive, your core( sun) will heal. Because a wound, is not a physical wound, is an emotional one, oh and I'd focus on mercury too. Too much on negative thinking, can sink you to depression. You have mercury in virgo, u tend to get very critical of yourself and perhaps of others too...but don't forget, virgo is dignified in here, you have a lot of capacities that other ppl don't. Focus, endurance, detail-oriented. Why not orient all you have positive in life, and shift -focus on that.
I always beging with the basics. I am firstly here. I have a mother. A roof. My all organs are all right,( No. I am not going to do a - what I am thankfull for list, but think what if one of these basics will be lacking??- life would not be double harder?)
detail-orient yourself on the good aspects there are, ok?
that would be my advice. emotions plus mind

And let people talk. You know something?
Let them talk anything they want. Them talking bad and criticising with no ground, says it ALL abb themeselves, not about you!

I wish you to find your own way in this. Please start looking at life with positive eyes. not google-glas-pink-magic, but you weren't here just for the suffering!
I wish you all the best!

IF u wanna talk, I am still here
(sorry for the late reply, I had some issues going on)

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