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peacefulclouds
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posted May 01, 2014 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello there, I'm a bit numb so I decided to just cast my last horary regarding a situation (that I think is already final, since last night event changed stuff), if anyone would like to help me/correct my analysation I would be very grateful... thank you. At least I can learn something from this stupid situation once and for all.

The question is related to the finality of the situation, but I heard the phrasing has to always be a yes/no (with answer gearing to yes) so with that in mind, the q is "Will we reconcile ever again/will he continue to reach out?"
(my heart wants a yes but my well-being/sanity STRONGLY wishes for a no, haha )

Querent is jupiter, quesited is mercury. They have a separating aspect, which means a situation that has already passed. Note mercury is combust, so whatever positive reception etc wouldn't materialize.

since quesited has a girlfriend, I put venus as her significator. Could it be something else (moon)? I am not sure if they're going steady but they knew each other before dating, so might be steady, even if new.

Reception wise...
Jupiter is in 7th house also cancer, so querent is deeply invested emotionally to the quesited. (true)

Question #1: what does it mean when jupiter is exalted + received by moon (my co-significator) ? does it explain the state of mind of the querent in positive way?

It is also received by mercury by term and face- not strong dignity but probably friendly enough aspect. Probably just showed that despite what happened, quesited doesn't dislike the querent.

Moon, querent's co-sig in gemini and in mercury's dignity + triplicity. This means querent's emotion/feelings are received/understood by the quesited or warmly thought (triplicity) but mercury is combust so nothing will come out from it.

Mercury- the quesited, is in Venus's dignity in taurus. This shows they're together, and she is fond of him (which is true). Mercury also in moon's exalted + triplicity and face, so the querent (me) is still emotionally very attached to him (true).

Venus - his girlfriend, is in pisces. While of course this doesnt mean I love her, it actually show that I am fond of his girlfriend (she was nice and kind, as far as I know) and she is quite friendly to me. She is exalted, so shows she's doing well. But strangely she is in mercury's detriment and fall, which in my opinion is very strange. In this case Question #2: Could be that her significator is not venus? Because it seems weird that she is being received so badly. Also she is not aspecting to mercury, so maybe there's other consideration- like Saturn? But he is not cheating on her, so maybe not (though it's aspecting him and in his 5th house...) How about Mars?
Venus in the quesited's 10th house makes sense in tis case (social status) because she is the only girlfriend so far that he introduces to his colleagues/he finds sensible.

The Sun: His desire is in venus's sign so they're pretty much desiring each other. The sun also is in moon's exaltation, triplicity and face... This makes me think maybe moon is the girlfriend's significator? Or this just shows how deeply attached i am to him, huh.

Mars.. im not sure what it signifies but it squares me, so there's hidden enemy? It is separating though, so maybe it will pass. Question #3: What does mars signify in this case?

So despite the positivity of receptions etc, seems like the verdict is that there'll be no reconciliation, since mercury is combust, most of the significators involved are also peregrine (moon, sun, mercury) and the aspects are separating which indicate the matter is closing/the decision has been made.

How off the mark am I? Any thoughts and answers will be appreciated.

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 01, 2014 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post the very first chart asking about this?
You're in the 7th house, so you're the most interested in this union.
The sun is the translation of light between you. Sextiles require a bit of work. Need to see the moon on that 1st chart

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peacefulclouds
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posted May 01, 2014 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no first chart- what I mean last horary is that after this I wont be asking about this anymore. I casted the above chart after new events unfolded (last night).

if you meant the very first one after our arguments months ago in january (which maybe doesn't work anymore because so many things has happened):

(what happened after that horary was, after 3 months he did reach out for reconciliation (friendship), but it ended up as another break but this time I was the one who ended it. then we met again last night after again he reached out but things has changed, which is why I casted the current one to make sure no more attempt of reconciliation might be made.)

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 01, 2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup! That's what I meant. Will post this evening.

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Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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posted May 01, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At a glance, it's not over in either chart.

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peacefulclouds
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posted May 01, 2014 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that.. sucks. how do you gather that? I thought not aspecting means it's over?

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posted May 01, 2014 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, ma'am. When moon leaves the sign, that's the end of the story and there's. Collection of light between you. He's resisting with that opposition. You're not. You're trining. ::shrug::

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Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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peacefulclouds
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posted May 01, 2014 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you mean to saturn? (merc oppose saturn and jupiter trine saturn) does that mean i will be the one who will to attempt the reconcilliate? but saturn is not in neither dignities :I so saturn is not interested...
also saturn in jupiters detriment

thanks for your help btw

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posted May 01, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're thinking too much.

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peacefulclouds
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posted May 01, 2014 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just trying to learn, since ultimately whether things will or will not happen depends on the individuals in the end, but interested in learning the nuances anyway and what's better than a horary you're actually invested in (negatively or positively)?

since in another forum, they always expound it to me that horary is complex and therefore all things must be considered to get a clearer picture before making judgment (thats why horary services can be pretty expensive depending on accuracy!) so... would love insight/wisdom from those who are more well-versed/experienced like you.

Yes I am thinking too much but aren't we all in this forum

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