posted May 09, 2014 08:28 PM            

again, if this question seems odd to you or u dont believe in this stuff don't bother.

i'll let anyone do it and i'll give that person(s) a detailed 14-card exchange.. i won't be "slightly" lazy either because I will really appreciate it.

posted May 10, 2014 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by crys:
Hi you want to know what the spirits want from you?

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posted May 10, 2014 01:47 PM            

This isn't tarot, it's playing cards.

I didn't want to pry too much because I believe if you do, you can open the door for things that have no place in your life, but I did ask if any of them meant to harm you. Got a resounding no. I pulled 5 Clubs, Jack Clubs and 7 Spades. Basically, what that's telling is that they feel threatened (in their position? by you? I don't know) but they're actually usually friendly, they just didn't like the direction things were going. Had you ever been in contact with them? I get a sense that you've been pressuring them to tell you things they don't want you to know. They'll lash out if you continue, but they don't want to.

posted May 10, 2014 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Hi

This isn't tarot, it's playing cards.

I didn't want to pry too much because I believe if you do, you can open the door for things that have no place in your life, but I did ask if any of them meant to harm you. Got a resounding no. I pulled 5 Clubs, Jack Clubs and 7 Spades. Basically, what that's telling is that they feel threatened (in their position? by you? I don't know) but they're actually usually friendly, they just didn't like the direction things were going. Had you ever been in contact with them? I get a sense that you've been pressuring them to tell you things they don't want you to know. They'll lash out if you continue, but they don't want to.

Hope this helped.

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Thanks !
So where did the other one come from? I don't know that one. I'd like to see what that one was ! (if that relates to prying for more information and opening up, then u dont have to)

posted May 10, 2014 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Thanks !
So where did the other one come from? I don't know that one. I'd like to see what that one was ! (if that relates to prying for more information and opening up, then u dont have to)

I felt violated and sad afterwards.. I'm too embarrassed to tell you afterwards but I guess you can tell from your intuition and/or tarot.. that was a kind of harsh punishment

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I got a hot flash when I was shuffling, but I didn't really look further because I was trying to concentrate on the cards and getting the clearest answer.

I'm going to try and ask about the one you didn't know before, but I've never done this type of reading before, so let me know if anything I say doesn't make any sense, ok?

Where did this spirit you didn't know before come from? 8 Spades, Ace Clubs, King Clubs
Like I said earlier, he does not mean you harm. He's a friend to the other spirit but feels older? Definitely stronger in his state than the one you knew already. He was being protective over his friend and I think he come over because you've put the heat on the first spirit. You need to pay attention to the things you are doing, because this spirit was locked up somewhere and either he lived and/or died in a lot of pain, or he has known a lot of pain in his afterlife. He's not vengeful, but you don't want to mess with him because he can turn vengeful. Lastly, AC + KC traditionally means photograph, so you might have seen him in a picture somewhere. Or you might be able to picture him. I was getting strongly as I was shuffling "don't distract me, don't distract me" in a very put off tone. I can't advise you enough to not prob into these two more than you already have. They don't feel threatening, but they kind of want to be left alone for now.

posted May 10, 2014 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I got a hot flash when I was shuffling, but I didn't really look further because I was trying to concentrate on the cards and getting the clearest answer.

I'm going to try and ask about the one you didn't know before, but I've never done this type of reading before, so let me know if anything I say doesn't make any sense, ok?

Where did this spirit you didn't know before come from? 8 Spades, Ace Clubs, King Clubs
Like I said earlier, he does not mean you harm. He's a friend to the other spirit but feels older? Definitely stronger in his state than the one you knew already. He was being protective over his friend and I think he come over because you've put the heat on the first spirit. You need to pay attention to the things you are doing, because this spirit was locked up somewhere and either he lived and/or died in a lot of pain, or he has known a lot of pain in his afterlife. He's not vengeful, but you don't want to mess with him because he can turn vengeful. Lastly, AC + KC traditionally means photograph, so you might have seen him in a picture somewhere. Or you might be able to picture him. I was getting strongly as I was shuffling "don't distract me, don't distract me" in a very put off tone. I can't advise you enough to not prob into these two more than you already have. They don't feel threatening, but they kind of want to be left alone for now.

Let me know if this made sense. :-/

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Actually, that makes a lot of sense! No wonder! I've been putting two and two together -- I've been picturing his father more than the spirit (who I recently saw a painting of, his presence is def stronger as well). But I was def communicating with the spirit (where I guess, his father was watching me do and "helping" him).

During the attack the other one joined in too but felt considerably weaker and more tired to do it.. If I really known what was going on.. I would've stopped.

But it still doesn't take away from the vileness and the viciousness of what they did imo. Even if they're usually friendly (his father's spirit was more violent and ardent than he was..)

But why out of all this choices why did they have to chose the worst one?

*sighs*

(yes I realize ur not a medium ghost psych doctor, yes I will do your spread soon when I'm done venting lol)

posted May 10, 2014 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:

Actually, that makes a lot of sense! No wonder! I've been putting two and two together -- I've been picturing his father more than the spirit (who I recently saw a painting of, his presence is def stronger as well). But I was def communicating with the spirit (where I guess, his father was watching me do and "helping" him).

During the attack the other one joined in too but felt considerably weaker and more tired to do it.. If I really known what was going on.. I would've stopped.

But it still doesn't take away from the vileness and the viciousness of what they did imo. Even if they're usually friendly (his father's spirit was more violent and ardent than he was..)

But why out of all this choices why did they have to chose the worst one?

*sighs*

(yes I realize ur not a medium ghost psych doctor, yes I will do your spread soon when I'm done venting lol)

What does "don't distract me" mean? As in don't bother me or something?

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He was more violent and vile because he knew and knows more violence and vileness.

Karka, seriously now. Don't pry further and leave them be. The first spirit will come to you when he feels like it, don't go after him. The second one should be back to his usual place and not come back at all, IF you take the focus of your attention and curiosity away from them. I get that they've left you with more questions than answers, but you can't bombard a spirit with questions they don't want to answer. They will lash out and I think the next attack will be even more unpleasant.

It's okay, I can wait on my reading. This felt like a pressing matter and I wanted to help.

I have no idea what "don't distract me" means, I hoped that you would. My guides don't speak that way to me, so I can only surmise this was the stronger spirit. At most I get whispers because full sentences will freak me out, and this was not only a full sentence, it was a strong voice dismissing me. I didn't feel threatened though. I think he wants to be left to do what he likes to do, which is to be back where he was. I am not going to look into where that is, btw.

posted May 10, 2014 04:33 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
He was more violent and vile because he knew and knows more violence and vileness.

Karka, seriously now. Don't pry further and leave them be. The first spirit will come to you when he feels like it, don't go after him. The second one should be back to his usual place and not come back at all, IF you take the focus of your attention and curiosity away from them. I get that they've left you with more questions than answers, but you can't bombard a spirit with questions they don't want to answer. They will lash out and I think the next attack will be even more unpleasant.

It's okay, I can wait on my reading. This felt like a pressing matter and I wanted to help.

I have no idea what "don't distract me" means, I hoped that you would. My guides don't speak that way to me, so I can only surmise this was the stronger spirit. At most I get whispers because full sentences will freak me out, and this was not only a full sentence, it was a strong voice dismissing me. I didn't feel threatened though. I think he wants to be left to do what he likes to do, which is to be back where he was. I am not going to look into where that is, btw.

Can I suggest something? Channel a family member you feel a connection to and ask them to guide these others spirits into where they want to be. You really should not have any more contact with them.

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I just found out the second spirit has a lot of Scorponic energy.. no wonder.
Yes I feel my ties have not completely severed (though its going away) but I feel the more curious I'm getting the more they're energetically responding even though I'm actively trying to block out THEM.

Yeah I'm not naive as much as I use to be (even though I'm 15 far from mature) *shudder*

yeah I bombarded them because I'm kind of use to channeling spirits and asking them a lot of questions and them being ok or more clear in their emotions. I havent channeled that spirit in two days..

Anyways i'm getting a unsettling vibe again talking about that second spirit i'm going to stop.

posted May 10, 2014 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I just found out the second spirit has a lot of Scorponic energy.. no wonder.
Yes I feel my ties have not completely severed (though its going away) but I feel the more curious I'm getting the more they're energetically responding even though I'm actively trying to block out THEM.

Yeah I'm not naive as much as I use to be (even though I'm 15 far from mature) *shudder*

yeah I bombarded them because I'm kind of use to channeling spirits and asking them a lot of questions and them being ok or more clear in their emotions. I havent channeled that spirit in two days..

Anyways i'm getting a unsettling vibe again talking about that second spirit i'm going to stop.

( I talk to my grandmother spirit sometimes and she has the sweetest most calmest energy, she calmed me down after the attack and felt bad for me, for some reason the 1st spirit was somewhat trying to reassure me too even though he did his part even tho it was less intense)

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I think the second spirit is a pained soul. (See? These are my guides, they don't tell me to do stuff or stop doing stuff, they just whisper me little things like "pained soul".)

The ties aren't severed completely because the first spirit likes you. He doesn't like you probing. Let him come to you, though. He will eventually. Don't block him either. Ask your grandmother to help you with them, to tell them you didn't mean any offense and you won't pressure them anymore. And to tell them you want distance from them at the moment.

You're only 15? You need to ward yourself off from bad and tortured spirits. If you're channelling the good ones, you'll call the attention of the bad ones eventually. Promise me you'll be careful with this and look into protection. Just do, okay? You need to take care of yourself and shield yourself before you talk to every spirit out there. You'll hurt yourself if you don't.

posted May 10, 2014 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I think the second spirit is a pained soul. (See? These are my guides, they don't tell me to do stuff or stop doing stuff, they just whisper me little things like "pained soul".)

The ties aren't severed completely because the first spirit likes you. He doesn't like you probing. Let him come to you, though. He will eventually. Don't block him either. Ask your grandmother to help you with them, to tell them you didn't mean any offense and you won't pressure them anymore. And to tell them you want distance from them at the moment.

You're only 15? You need to ward yourself off from bad and tortured spirits. If you're channelling the good ones, you'll call the attention of the bad ones eventually. Promise me you'll be careful with this and look into protection. Just do, okay? You need to take care of yourself and shield yourself before you talk to every spirit out there. You'll hurt yourself if you don't.

Sorry if I sound patronizing or like a mother hen. I take these things very seriously and you should too. And by seriously I mean that I know I can be hurt if I let just any spirit in.

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I understand. I know this too. I need to be more careful though as I'm still a rookie.

posted May 10, 2014 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I understand. I know this too. I need to be more careful though as I'm still a rookie.

I see. I like him too. Well ok I'll follow ur advice.

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You're young. When I was about your age, a lady stopped me on the street and warned me off of spirits and playing with them. Told me to not use ouija boards or a glass to communicate with them. I had only played with the glass twice at the time and I never did it again after that. She was very... incisive that I should not bother them.

posted May 10, 2014 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I think it's because you open yourself to whatever is out there. Not very good, unless you're prepare for what's out there.

You should forgive both of them and really, really let them be.

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You're a sweet , wise woman.

posted May 10, 2014 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
You're a sweet , wise woman.

Anyways, I have a feeling to tell you what kind of "assault' it was. (I'm over it now, though thanks to your advice). Or do you already have a feeling of what it was ?

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Nah. I'm just too chicken sh*t to explore these things.

posted May 10, 2014 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Nah. I'm just too chicken sh*t to explore these things.

I have an idea, because of it's somehow related to shame. At least I feel it is...

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posted May 11, 2014 12:06 AM            

Look into protection at ALL times OK??

There are some great books on Amazon.....

The Art of Psychic Protection: http://www.amazon.com/The-Psychic-Protection-Judy-Hall/dp/1578630266

posted May 11, 2014 06:29 AM            

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Originally posted by lotus_flower:

Just want to also chime in (if that is OK) and say to Karka, PLEASE be careful!!! And when you receive warnings, or experiences like these, they are warnings--respect and heed them!!! <3

Look into protection at ALL times OK??

There are some great books on Amazon.....

The Art of Psychic Protection: http://www.amazon.com/The-Psychic-Protection-Judy-Hall/dp/1578630266

Psychic Shield: http://www.amazon. com/Psychic-Shield-Personal-Handbook-Protection/dp/1569755353/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1399781120&sr=1-3&keywords=psychic+protection

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