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Topic: Saturn Is Killing Me
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CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 21, 2014 09:50 PM
Although I didn't know it until last year, I have been depressed for a long time, but hit "rock bottom" on September 9, 2013. I was hospitalized and felt so uncomfortable that I told myself that I'd never do anything to send me to a hospital again. (I later discovered that transiting Pluto was conjunct my natal Saturn 0°01 on that day.) However, I wonder if the depression will ever end.It has been almost a year since I worked and if it were not for my parents' financial support, I'd probably be without a place to live. (I'm thousands of kilometres away from them, by the way.) My sleep schedule hasn't been regular in 10 months, but it has been especially difficult for me to sleep soundly in the past few months. Perhaps it's because I moved out of my bachelor apartment into a 3-bedroom apartment with 2 other people -- one of whom is an awful energy to be around -- or that my parents are pressuring me to get a job. Either way, I feel like my anti-depressants aren't of much help to me anymore and that the depression is going to get bad again. Transiting Saturn (19°10r Scorpio) will be conjunct my natal Moon (25°32 Scorpio) for quite some time, and when I read about how depression may never fully go away or that it gets worse with age, I seriously question why I should even bother to get past it. Do the stars have any answers -- is there an end in sight? http://i58.tinypic.com/2qnxwd0.jpg Thanks, David IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Knowflake Posts: 1579 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 21, 2014 09:57 PM
Saturn is not your problem. Uranus is. See it opposing your MC and squaring you 10th house ruler. That Uranus has got your baby. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House) Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House) Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1678 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 21, 2014 10:01 PM
all i have to say is nothing is given to us that we cannot handle. your sun/moon square pluto t squaring Mars/Jupiter is painful But you also have alot of good karmic gifts mercury conjunct venus trine jupiter and sextile moon.but your sun square pluto seems to be intense love karma and what you value... you need to shed the karma just feel it and let it pass. once saturn leaves Scorpio you will be fine.
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CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 21, 2014 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by LoadedPistil: Saturn is not your problem. Uranus is. See it opposing your MC and squaring you 10th house ruler. That Uranus has got your baby.
Uranus? I thought Saturn and Pluto were responsible for depression.IP: Logged |
cherful24 Knowflake Posts: 2252 From: chicago, il Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 21, 2014 10:04 PM
yikes. I'm so sorry! I have been the same boat as you have been for a long time but I don't have my family to support me back me up.... so you're so lucky I hope you see the silver lining in that Truthfully what helped me was sleeping a lot. and I mean a lot I used to be very outdoorsy but for a year and a half probably 2, I spent indoors sleeping. I did not take meds as mine was related to situational depression I had several death and several things end in my life. and now that I have recovered from that, how I'm trying to get my energy back and get my happiness back....is that I'm listening to music at 432hz and 528hz there are a lot of options on YouTube . some of them are uplifting, some are for meditation some are for sleeping, etc . they're really great and it's really really helped me IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Knowflake Posts: 1579 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 21, 2014 10:08 PM
It's in your 11th house. Saturn is your 2nd house ruler. That's where your money is. You can't hate Saturn because of some hard and fast rule. When it gets to your natal uranus, that's another matter. I'm surprised you're not here to wallow in misery about relationships. If anything, pluto transiting your natal Saturn is worse than Saturn transiting your natal pluto. Especially since natal Saturn is in the 1st and ruler of the 2nd house. Post another chart with that September date and also December 23, 2015. I was just gonna post about this date and the transits for me. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House) Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House) Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
KingofCups Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 21, 2014 10:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by LoadedPistil: Saturn is not your problem. Uranus is. See it opposing your MC and squaring you 10th house ruler. That Uranus has got your baby.
I think I have to disagree here. His/her problems started in September 2013 when Uranus was at 11 Aries. It's still not on his/her IC yet, so I feel like if it were problems, it would be problems to come, not problems that have already come. However, Idk if it is problematic. Uranus can bring a lot of surprises, but I don't think it's always a bad thing. Plus, Uranus usually doesn't have a lasting impact. It's something that comes and goes. I think that the impact of Saturn and Pluto's transits would be more lasting. Uranus coming onto the IC might take away from the career, but it's possible that it gives his/her core self the jump start it needs to get going again. Definitely feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. IP: Logged |
CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 21, 2014 10:22 PM
@AtheneGoddess: Wait it out? I don't know if I can deal with it for another year and a half.@Cherful24: Music at 432hz -- interesting! I'll look into it. Thanks! @LoadedPistil: September 9, 2013 http://i61.tinypic.com/99qjno.jpg December 23, 2015 http://i61.tinypic.com/1jucm8.jpg IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1678 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 21, 2014 10:23 PM
You cant rush saturn and everything is in divine timing. if you want to eliminate the pain connect to your divinity and it will not have anymore power over you.IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Knowflake Posts: 1579 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 21, 2014 10:24 PM
Uranus problems don't come and go for somebody with Uranus in 1st. Like he said, PLUTO was conj his natal Saturn. This is not a tSaturn problem. We may have to agree to disagree here and that's fine! I'm sure your advice will be valuable. --------- I cannot recommend any supplements since your on SSRIs or antidepressant or MAOIs or anything. These supplements are not herbs. They're hormones and amino acid- nothing homeopathic or holistic. It's medicine the FDA was nice enough to let us have over the counter. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House) Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House) Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Knowflake Posts: 1579 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 21, 2014 10:28 PM
I'm sorry. I meant Dec 23 2014. I've been screwing up the year all day. Sun conj uranus is fantastic with mercury venus conj at the same time, but you need help this year, not next. So sorry. Please repost ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House) Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House) Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 21, 2014 10:33 PM
That's okay. Here you go:December 23, 2014 http://i62.tinypic.com/jziddd.jpg IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Knowflake Posts: 1579 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 21, 2014 10:47 PM
Now, doesn't this look like a breath of fresh air?! Saturn enters Sagittarius away from anything important for you (and me). Pluto is separating from your natal Saturn. You'll be entering a Venus return, your 10th house ruler. tMoon in 1st with Sun in 1st makes you highly focused on self, like you should be. Transit Jupiter retro will mean not such luck with love matters, but that's ok because your focus won't be there and you won't care. tJupiter will also square natal jupiter, ruler of your ascendant, so you'll have to focus on self. No choice here. Hard aspects to Jupiter are not bad. The planet being activated is great!!I can't wait til Christmas either cus all this gravy is gonna be in my 7th!!!! ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House) Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House) Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
redshoes Knowflake Posts: 991 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 22, 2014 07:31 AM
Yes Saturn is making you feel down as it has been transiting your Moon and Pluto..not easy at allIP: Logged |
KingofCups Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 22, 2014 08:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by LoadedPistil: Uranus problems don't come and go for somebody with Uranus in 1st. Like he said, PLUTO was conj his natal Saturn. This is not a tSaturn problem. We may have to agree to disagree here and that's fine! I'm sure your advice will be valuable.
Almost all of his planets are in the First though. I realize that Uranus can cause problems, but I have trouble as seeing it consistently as a malefic. I don't think that Pluto was on his nSaturn when he started having trouble though, and even if it was, it was separating. Saturn, on the other hand, was right on his nPluto. I'm not saying that tPluto didn't have anything to do with it, but I feel as though tSaturn definitely had a part, especially in enacting depression. So, I think what it is is that tPluto Conjunct nSaturn started off the bad times, but tSaturn Conjunct nPluto has kept it going. IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Knowflake Posts: 1579 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 22, 2014 10:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by KingofCups: Almost all of his planets are in the First though. I realize that Uranus can cause problems, but I have trouble as seeing it consistently as a malefic.I don't think that Pluto was on his nSaturn when he started having trouble though, and even if it was, it was separating. Saturn, on the other hand, was right on his nPluto. I'm not saying that tPluto didn't have anything to do with it, but I feel as though tSaturn definitely had a part, especially in enacting depression. So, I think what it is is that tPluto Conjunct nSaturn started off the bad times, but tSaturn Conjunct nPluto has kept it going.
Yup. Agree to disagree. Because I also have a Scorpio moon. Mars retro conjunct natal Saturn caused my relationship problems. Saturn is my 7th house ruler, so since his problems are financial and not with friends, Saturn is off my list in the whodunit. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House) Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House) Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |