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peacefulclouds
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posted June 16, 2014 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Preferably with someone I haven't read for recently

I will exchange if you pick a topic and read it in-depth. I will return you with an in-depth reading as well. Please state which ones you're answering, then leave your question.

1. Current work: Am I doing the right thing by doing these jobs (as if 'will these benefit my future')?

2. A choice between two options (not romance): Who will win, PSHR or JKWJK?

3. Do you see a permanent move abroad (or work travel) for me in the future by career or otherwise?

4. What do you see in my lovelife in near future (maybe within this year) ? - andstuff

Thank you

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posted June 16, 2014 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-edit-
you read for me recently lol my bad.. I forgot

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posted June 16, 2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you can pick one non-romance topic if you'd like, Karka, and I'll read you a non-romance related topic if you'd like, so we read with fresh energy

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posted June 16, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peacefulclouds:
you can pick one non-romance topic if you'd like, Karka, and I'll read you a non-romance related topic if you'd like, so we read with fresh energy

Yes! I was planning on asking on a non-romance one.

Ok I will begin to give you a in-depth reading.

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posted June 16, 2014 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey peacefulclouds

I can do no.4 in xchange for my Q that sounds exactly the same

I will do a Celtic Cross for you, only could I have your initials (or name if you don't mind) and hair colour?

cheers x

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posted June 16, 2014 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK karka!

Hi andstuff

I can give you my last name initial 'T' and my hair colour is jet black.

before the in depth, I will give you a mini reading first to see if we connect.

My initial feeling is you were hurt fairly recently, but I'm not sure if it is a 'new' hurt- were you waiting for someone? disappointment more or less but by a familiar person (not new fling or new date).

I want to say you're single, but I don't feel you're completely single. edit - not like you have flings, more like your mind is not ready for a relationship for some reason, it's blocked.
If these resonates, I will do a complete forecast.

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posted June 16, 2014 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey thanks yeah that kind of makes sense

the person is far from new indeed. and maybe there are still traces of a connection, spiritually at least

will do yours within 30 mins

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posted June 16, 2014 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, but if it only 'kinda make sense' take my forecast with a heavy dose of salt :P

OK andstuff:

Within this year I feel like you will meet (or have met?) someone you find attractive. Honestly I am not good at giving details such as eye colour, but I can give you the feeling I got - what's your impression of that person.

You will find them attractive right off the bat but not in 'oh wow dreamy' way, more like 'how interesting/cute' and you get along well, with some (good) tension/friendly banter.

But unfortunately it will be a slow moving relationship, i feel. That person will already have someone else in mind, but not quite committed. It will be your choice to move on to find someone else (will be next year), or ride it out and just enjoy the moments until they make up their mind.

Do you get anxious or obsessed easily though? I suggest you avoid this person if you do. Otherwise, it's alright.

I see 'real' relationship starting next year (march? may?). However I cannot tell if it's with this person or someone else :I

but I see naturalness/calmness around it. Like no rush at all.

If it's not with this person, I feel like you will have to meet this person first before you find that long-term one. Like a jumping stone if you will.

I will return when I feel more things, but that's the gist.

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posted June 16, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, here goes the celtic cross

before anything, just wanted to say my forte is reading emotional energies, since i am some kind of a natural born empath, so i think i mostly get emotional imprints if anything

SO what I believe I got is this

Your current state of mind seems conflicted. You used to feel very much on your own, irrespective of whether you were really on your own or if people were around you. This state of self-screening-off kind of made you face the ugliness/imperfection both within yourself and outside as well. Most people around you seem to pursue petty intersts, sometimes with little respect/consideration towards you. At the same time you cherish this dream / idealised image of love, so it feels like you're the only one who could make it happen under the circustances, you really don't want to be like everyone else, treating people like tools and commodities, even though often you lose hope there could be another way. You're also scared your dreams might one day crumble, because they are all you've got.

So, this retreat/solitude is quite funny in nature too, you seem to be hiding and wishing to be found/discovered at the same time.

So the next stage for you will be all about working - on yourself perhaps or on becoming something better than what you are, not to get ready for love, but rather because there is no other way, quite obsessed you will be too. At any rate, the reason I am mentioning this is because this is the future represented by 8 pents - lord of prudence=labour. BUT the outcome is 4 wands aka Lord of Perfected Work, so somehow once that stage reaches an end, you will settle down with someone, perhaps even as much as move in together rather quickly. Mellow joy seems to be the overall mood =)

in the crown position I got the Queen of Swords so I don't know... I'd say it's best to be level-headed, be strategic about landing this relationship and making it happen. Or else perhaps your intelligence will be the most attractive thing about you in this particular case.

I dunno... please do tell me if you wish me to pull extra cards to clarify anything.

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posted June 16, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
+ thanks for doing mine

are you saying "this person" will choose someone over me??? how is that a jumping stone? not to say i have never really had anyone chosen over me, so i have no idea what it's even like

calmness.... i am quite fiery/passionate, so i want crazy stuff/was made for crazy stuff, not cooking together or whatever.... anyway this scares me very much

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posted June 16, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:

Your current state of mind seems conflicted. You used to feel very much on your own, irrespective of whether you were really on your own or if people were around you. This state of self-screening-off kind of made you face the ugliness/imperfection both within yourself and outside as well.

wow, that's... very accurate.

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Most people around you seem to pursue petty intersts, sometimes with little respect/consideration towards you. At the same time you cherish this dream / idealised image of love, so it feels like you're the only one who could make it happen under the circustances, you really don't want to be like everyone else, treating people like tools and commodities, even though often you lose hope there could be another way. You're also scared your dreams might one day crumble, because they are all you've got. So, this retreat/solitude is quite funny in nature too, you seem to be hiding and wishing to be found/discovered at the same time.

I was wondering 'treating people like tools and commodities', do you mean I treat people like that, or I resent people that do?
I think deep down I do want idealized love- and i resent myself for it. It's very accurate about the wishing to be found.
Sometimes I feel as if it's better to be alone, though I know deep down I want to meet someone, but I couldn't really see myself 'meeting' anyone, despite my bursting social life.

quote:
So the next stage for you will be all about working - on yourself perhaps or on becoming something better than what you are, not to get ready for love, but rather because there is no other way, quite obsessed you will be too. At any rate, the reason I am mentioning this is because this is the future represented by 8 pents - lord of prudence=labour. BUT the outcome is 4 wands aka Lord of Perfected Work, so somehow once that stage reaches an end, you will settle down with someone, perhaps even as much as move in together rather quickly. Mellow joy seems to be the overall mood =)

I have been working like crazy, and I am enjoying it. A distraction but a good one nonetheless. I am returning to my old, lone but comfortable self. I do think of the past once in a while (romance wise) and felt a pang of bittersweetness. But as long as I have work, I will be fine...

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in the crown position I got the Queen of Swords so I don't know... I'd say it's best to be level-headed, be strategic about landing this relationship and making it happen. Or else perhaps your intelligence will be the most attractive thing about you in this particular case.

I work in a very competitive industry right now that requires flexibility, communication skill and chaotic/adaptable politics, so brainworks sound right. I am not a looker, so hope that is a good thing (attractive intelligence? haha). That's one of the main reasons I get friendzoned a lot *lol*

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I dunno... please do tell me if you wish me to pull extra cards to clarify anything.

Honestly, it's very in-line with my gut feeling, a 'mellow joy' like you said. I hope, perhaps in the future, I will experience it, even if it's a short while I admit it is not the centre of my life, but still very important... like you said, I guess it is a kind of unrealized dream to experience such thing. Thank you. If you need me to try read you other things, let me know.

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posted June 16, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can do #1
I have no idea if we exchanged lately...

my question is: Why did he contact me...and choose not to say anything ( i said hello twice)...was it his wife? It was one of them! I hung up. He didn't call back and I didn't call him back. Why did he call, is he going to again...Did his friend tell me that about his wife on purpose (because of him)...she's finding inner peace...what's going on...

I find myself defensive...also curious and also waiting for something...an attack or being used or an apology/reason why he did everything...I swear this **** it never gonna die down...it's been a year of no communication from him so thats good but now he called (or her but someone from his phone did), his friend stops me, and now my energy is fixated on his.........what's his next move in his life...working it out with her, him trying to come into my life for any reason, or is he just being a dick and just trying to screw with me

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posted June 16, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
+ thanks for doing mine

are you saying "this person" will choose someone over me??? how is that a jumping stone? not to say i have never really had anyone chosen over me, so i have no idea what it's even like

calmness.... i am quite fiery/passionate, so i want crazy stuff/was made for crazy stuff, not cooking together or whatever.... anyway this scares me very much


No no, the calmness does not mean it's a calm as in 'family' or cooking calm, just like you wont get anxiety out of it? Like it felt good/natural.
Unless by 'crazy stuff' mean you love anxiety, then perhaps my reading was not great for you *lol*

I dont see family life- at least not that far. 'real' relationship in my reading means a committed one. And by calm/natural is like, you don't even have to label it, you kinda just go into it without saying.

No, I don't know if he will chose someone over you, like I said he will be just undecided, and you might leave him first (unless you want to stay and enjoy what's the relationship has to offer at that state)

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posted June 16, 2014 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i meant you're afraid you might start treating people like tools, not that you are doing it now

oh my god i'm so glad i make sense, cheers for letting me know =) i don't read cards much these days, so i really just keep rolling with whatever skills i inherited / was given

re: not looking/wishing to be found, check this out http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/b3/0f/f0/b30ff04aabfbb9f828b5a7e6968dcce6.jpg

this is the image i got - oh did i say i used deviant moon? gosh, i realised i forgot to ask if you're cool with it, i have found this deck to be a bit too prying

anyway, this masked dude is a bit of a twisted perspective on the classic rider iconography, he is hiding behind bars but has a lamp, and yet wears a mask.

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Originally posted by peacefulclouds:
No no, the calmness does not mean it's a calm as in 'family' or cooking calm, just like you wont get anxiety out of it? Like it felt good/natural.
Unless by 'crazy stuff' mean you love anxiety, then perhaps my reading was not great for you *lol*

I dont see family life- at least not that far. 'real' relationship in my reading means a committed one. And by calm/natural is like, you don't even have to label it, you kinda just go into it without saying.

No, I don't know if he will chose someone over you, like I said he will be just undecided, and you might leave him first (unless you want to stay and enjoy what's the relationship has to offer at that state)


hmm, my bad. i confused anxiety and intensity =) so i want the latter, and of the former i kind of have had enough.

apart from being a natural born empath i suppose i am a natural born paranoid, so i tend to expect the worst/most painful =)

anyway, thanks very much for doing this for me and for letting me do yours, was a pleasure

still let me know if i could perhaps pull any extra follow-up cards

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posted June 16, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cherful24:
I can do #1
I have no idea if we exchanged lately...

my question is: Why did he contact me...and choose not to say anything ( i said hello twice)...was it his wife? It was one of them! I hung up. He didn't call back and I didn't call him back. Why did he call, is he going to again...Did his friend tell me that about his wife on purpose (because of him)...she's finding inner peace...what's going on...

I find myself defensive...also curious and also waiting for something...an attack or being used or an apology/reason why he did everything...I swear this **** it never gonna die down...it's been a year of no communication from him so thats good but now he called (or her but someone from his phone did), his friend stops me, and now my energy is fixated on his.........what's his next move in his life...working it out with her, him trying to come into my life for any reason, or is he just being a dick and just trying to screw with me


Hi cherful24

I read your question but I am not sure what you're actually asking, so I will just type what I felt

First.. to answer your question I have a feeling it was him calling you, but I felt anger from him? It was not premeditated- he was just angry? But when he heard your voice, he couldn't speak up, or simply had nothing to say. Thus the silence.

I feel like you're obsessing because what I felt is you're seeking to fix the past- or at least find a way to fix -you-, by living through people from your past. I don't feel any unbreakable connection or 'fated' meet, I actually felt some warning.. was it a toxic relationship? Anyway the connection between you three are not soul-based, it's more... insecurity, very human. I feel a lot of insecurity surrounding this.

It will die down, but, you have to pull yourself from it. But I have a feeling deep down you want to actually interact directly with him, like getting some confirmations, but I am not too sure what confirmation.

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posted June 16, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm extremely disappointed. Something came up. great, now its ruined.

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posted June 16, 2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw not about you or any malaise directed towards anyone here. I just ruined something..again

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posted June 16, 2014 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
i meant you're afraid you might start treating people like tools, not that you are doing it now

oh my god i'm so glad i make sense, cheers for letting me know =) i don't read cards much these days, so i really just keep rolling with whatever skills i inherited / was given
this is the image i got - oh did i say i used deviant moon? gosh, i realised i forgot to ask if you're cool with it, i have found this deck to be a bit too prying
anyway, this masked dude is a bit of a twisted perspective on the classic rider iconography, he is hiding behind bars but has a lamp, and yet wears a mask.
hmm, my bad. i confused anxiety and intensity =) so i want the latter, and of the former i kind of have had enough.
apart from being a natural born empath i suppose i am a natural born paranoid, so i tend to expect the worst/most painful =)
anyway, thanks very much for doing this for me and for letting me do yours, was a pleasure
still let me know if i could perhaps pull any extra follow-up cards



haha, that card really resonates :P ah well, we will see what happens. I love the art by the way. Thank you, it was the most accurate (aside from the chart reading) read about my love-mindset.
I think you were scared because I described your initial meeting quite 'peaceful' and slow-moving, but sometimes fire doesn't go with a sudden blaze.
But, like my initial mini-reading, I felt like you have a block when it comes to relationship (hence the single/notsingle)- do you prefer things to be short rather than long term? Or you tend to end things first?

I am not sure what cards to be pulled, maybe what kind of person i will end up with? lol I have no idea..

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posted June 16, 2014 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peacefulclouds:

haha, that card really resonates :P ah well, we will see what happens. I love the art by the way.
I think you were scared because I described your initial meeting quite 'peaceful' and slow-moving, but sometimes fire doesn't go with a sudden blaze.
But, like my initial mini-reading, I felt like you have a block when it comes to relationship (hence the single/notsingle)- do you prefer things to be short rather than long term? Or you tend to end things first?

i don't know what i prefer anymore, it's a really long story. anyway this boy and me were in love, but he got wasted by toxic lifestyle and i couldn't really help him bc of my pride and some other things. long story short, i haven't cared about anyone since and have had like zero desires for anyone or anything.

this connection was mental, we felt so mutually congruent i am still unconvinced it will ever be possible for me again. yeah, also karma, eros conjunct psyche in pisces, the whole package.

my parents have been together since they were 20, so i think the kind of image i have in my head is something not even long-term, but actually permanent. i am scared witless of things ending. esp if i have to survive another ending like this one.

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posted June 16, 2014 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Andstuff: That explains the block. I think, the intensity vs permanence might elude you for sometime.

I share your sentiment- though I may seem like seeking 'calmness' but I do not wish to build a family, I just want companionship, though I had my share of intense relationships that always end in tears. Intensity is rarely permanent, I find, even if they are bittersweet and smouldering.

My reading stated about the guy as a stepping stone- perhaps your attraction to him will serve as 'breaking the ice', so to speak, maybe like sampling what other type of relationship out there, instead of subconsciously seeking for the similar intensity...

I hope time will tell and will be by your side let me know if you want a reading in teh future

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posted June 16, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s not “are u doing the right things”……it’s more of you have to do these things…I really feel you’re going to be a career orientated women, like have power and control…be successful in whatever u do…like you’ll be at the top. You’re work is very admirable. You seem to do A LOT of variety…maybe more than what your job actually entails…like cross work from other sectors/departments, etc. I would personable be tired, but you seem to have a lot of energy in your work and drive.

It seems you have to have your “hands in every pot”. You’ll have to work ur way to the very top and u will get there, it’s destined, and this is the reason why, why you’ll be so successful…because u have done every duty, type of work that was required.

I feel fate always comes into your work….like you’ll never be without a career, may a “job” for a short time, but it will always heighten you for a better one….like it all happened for a reason. Even if you thought…ok, I don’t want to have this type of responsibility anymore……..it wouldn’t matter because no matter what job you get or in what sector…this will always happen to you, you’ll always end of with more the load, a variety of experience.

I don’t know if you’ll own your own company or be a C-level executive, but a high position in life, good employment and status seems to be the lot you were given in life.


And you reading for me: Yes I think there is a lot of unanswered questions I want to ask, and correct his view of thinking….I don’t want to correct me but I do want to correct his outlook and get him to understand why he was in the wrong for doing that and he had no right to walk out without dealing with the mess he caused, like a tornado does…destructs and leaves. And I know it was him that called, and then he’s friend stops me and tells me about what’s going on with him and his wife….and I’m left all got up in this again, like okay what does he want from me? Did he call to say he’s sorry, use me…getting me to feel sorry for him, is he leaving her, like wtf...why still bring me into this especially after the letter I wrote…and yes, at that point is when I’d take that opp to interact and let him know this has all be caused because he acted like a tornado…created a mess and left without trying to fix it.

PS Remember me when you get to the top…lol

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posted June 16, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Andstuff: That explains the block. I think, the intensity vs permanence might elude you for sometime.

I share your sentiment- though I may seem like seeking 'calmness' but I do not wish to build a family, I just want companionship, though I had my share of intense relationships that always end in tears. Intensity is rarely permanent, I find, even if they are bittersweet and smouldering.

My reading stated about the guy as a stepping stone- perhaps your attraction to him will serve as 'breaking the ice', so to speak, maybe like sampling what other type of relationship out there, instead of subconsciously seeking for the similar intensity...

I hope time will tell and will be by your side let me know if you want a reading in teh future


well, i'd rather have beautiful experiences before i get wrinkles or some other **** . everyone seems lame/not cool.

well you see that's the problem with me, i don't want another type of relationship. i want the same melting into the other, spiritualised kind of thing. other things than this don't qualify as love/good enough for me. it scares me i could ever start wanting relationshipe everyone i know is in, this healthy/earthly/normal thing [by earthly i mean just that, unspiritualised, not taking me where god is along with the angels =)]. i could be in one any moment if i wanted it, there has been enough rubbish interested in me that could fit in with these unpretentious requirements.

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posted June 16, 2014 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
andstuff: yeah, but that's what I mean, there's other types out there that can be very spiritualized but does not have to be as destructive ...

...But of course, it is hard to describe I had my fair share of relationships, from with an older woman, a junkie younger woman, a soldier and even with a much, much older man. they all very intense physically and/or spiritually or even surprised me one after another on how different they were- my reactions to them- the emotional or physical intensity- end up 'breaking' me in many ways that I had to recuperate. but none of them were the same. It's hard to describe, but there are different flavours of intensity - and different ways to have that mind-melding experience. However, an open-mind is needed, to expand spirituality, need different/variety of challenges.

But, that's just my experience, of course everyone is different just saying that maybe approach it with more open mind and you will be rewarded with different but equally interesting experience.

I wish you luck!

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posted June 16, 2014 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cherful: wow, well that is a very accurate read of my work life. Jack of all trades maybe- and it's true I never fell short on finacne because work always comes since I can do many things, and I am decent enough in what I do- or flexible enough on what I have to learn do. You are right currently I am doing work that I HAVE to do. "It all happened for a reason" is exactly how it is... because things continues almost as if it was scripted. *lol*

Career has never been a problem for me. Lovelife however, always in shambles lol.

I will remember you once I 'made' it on top I guess lol. Thanks.

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posted June 16, 2014 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So can I still do a spot or all like I originally planned?

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