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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 29, 2014 11:17 AM
Hi KarkaQueen! You seem really experienced at reading horary charts beyond a simple yes/no and I was hoping you could take a look at this chart and give me your opinion. I have been studying this chart for weeks and I've really had to dig to see what's going on here. Would you mind helping me out? I could do an exchange with you: synastry, composite if you'd like. The question was, "Will D and I get married?" When I first started learning horary, I cast this chart and seeing I didn't see any aspects between his and my main sigs, I automatically took it as a "no." However, the more I've learned, the more I have realized you can look to other indicators as well: POF, NN, Juno and Part of Marriage (particularly for marriage questions.) So here's what I ultimately see: I'm mercury and he's jupiter. We are both dignified: he in essential dignity being in exaltation and me being in accidental dignity by sitting in an angular house (my 10th.) that leads me to believe we are both receiving eachother as well since I am in his sign of exaltation and he falls in my 10th (strongest angular house.) That actually puts me in his 4th so I am in an angular house of his as well (2nd strongest.) Now neptune is conjunct the DSC and I've read you can use planets conjunct the ASC and DSC to better describe the quester or quiested. The moon is making an applying opposition to neptune. If we look at my 4th house, "End of matters" you see it's ruled by jupiter which is exalted in my 11th (house of wishes and gains.) if we look at the 4th house from the 7th, we see that it is ruled by mercury in which I sit (as well as him if you make the sun his co-sig.) What's very interesting is that you also find the Part of Marriage in this house which happens to fall exactly conjunct Royal Star Sirius (a good omen I've read.) Looking at the NN, we see it's ruled by venus which is domicile and making an applying trine to the moon. It is also parallel Juno! The POF is ruled by mars, which although is in detriment, is making an applying square to mercury and applying quincux to venus (ruler of the NN.) I should also add that the sun is parallel jupiter and making a very weak parallel to mercury by 1 degree and 9 minutes. So what do you think? Can you help me out- this chart seems very difficult to get a concrete answer! Thanks so much 💙 [IMG]http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag47/tgem1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6c06c9d 0.jpg[/IMG] IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 29, 2014 01:01 PM
I'll look at it later IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 29, 2014 01:27 PM
Thank you thank you!!IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 29, 2014 05:30 PM
The ascendant is in early degrees so its undecided at the moment Moon symbolizes time and its in 12th house in Virgo opposite NeptuneIs there a lot of confusion and feelings being hidden at this time? Neptune and Moon really blurs it and the time is indefinite and hard to really put in practical means.. decisiveness is the word You two probably have a profound psychic and astral connection and are spiritually close but like most of the time this doesn't translate well in the physical realm. DSC ruler conjunct DSC so that's really good, excellent for partnership! Since you're Mercury (Gem) and square Mars there is a lot of nervous energy in you and if you do get married, you will be the one to propose. Trine Neptune you understand the spiritual connection and find him to be the idealized partner. Jupiter sq Uranus he may act on his own terms and kind of ignore what you're saying, Overall I will say yes, but it will take some time and clearing things up. A lot of confusion up in the air right now!
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 29, 2014 06:47 PM
Ahhh you are awesome!!! And very right..by the way. Yes, we do have a very profound astral/psychic connection and it DOES NOT manifest very well in the physical! There is definitely some hidden feelings that absolutely need to be expressed in order for us to get anywhere! I totally see what you're saying about the moon being cadent and the time being unknown. I noticed the early ASC as well, but since it was greater than 3 degrees..I thought maybe it was safe to read..especially since I didn't see any other strictures. Good observation about DSC ruler conjunct DSC...I was so busy looking at other stuff that I breezed right over that one LOL. Yes, I think the world of him and find him the idealized partner...I'm almost 100% convinced he's my TF. So as you can see in the chart, yes I'm the one with all the nervous energy because I am aware of it and he's ...well....let's just say "still working on things." Anyway, thanks so much for the help! Can I offer you an exchange like a synastry or composite? IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 29, 2014 06:52 PM
Sure thing
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 29, 2014 07:33 PM
Ok, what am I looking at here? A composite with someone in particular?IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 29, 2014 07:39 PM
Its me and a friend, he's a male and he's really obsessed with me.. lol.. but I'm close to him tooIP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 29, 2014 08:26 PM
Just saw your reply..been drinking a glass of wine and just hit a wall LOL. Eyes are strained from reading so I'll do it first thing in the AM when I am fresh...don't wanna miss anything obvious 😊IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 30, 2014 09:00 AM
Whoah!!! Well I guess! Look at all those Pluto contacts- no wonder! And you have ALL hard Saturn aspects as well! Alright what really stuck me was your double grand trine in earth and fire! Very nice-makes for some wonderful compatibility but then you throw in the 3 t-squares to shake things up and keep it interesting!! I've never seen that before! This relationship couldn't possibly be boring??!! So interesting to see you have Eros and karma both on the ASC and Lust conjunct Pluto! How do people see you when you're together??!! It's even in Scorpio- do people think you make a sexy couple? Do you give off intense vibes with eachother when you're together? DSC ruler venus in the 8th with mars in the 7th- venus/mars mdpt. Quincunx Eros!! Are you sure this guy is just a "friend"??!! LOL throw the venus opposite Pluto and mars square moon- dear Lord- there's some serious passion in this relationship whether it's sexually or otherwise. You desire to be together, feel energized together. Heavy Pluto and Saturn contacts tells me this is definitely a soulmate relationship and neptune, mercury and Pallas all making tight hard aspects to the IC shows me there would be strong telepathic connection between you...not to mention a tight mercury/neptune square. Psyche square NN in the 12th would also confirm that. Sun and venus contacts to neptune show a very dreamy/possibly romantic/idealized relationship between you but, yes it can make for some illusion and miscommunication between you two...that could be exacerbated by some heavy arguements if there isn't clear communication between you two with that mars in the 7th. BTW you also have a Cinderella linkage with Juno sextile that Chiron/vesta/psyche stellium-wow!!! This screams soulmates to me- what the nature of your relationship? I would love to see the synastry if you can post it..if possible add some soulmate asteroids just to see: union, Amor valentine, Isis and Osiris. (Add these to the composite too.) Do you see that your karma on the ASC is exactly at 0 degrees exactly quincunx Uranus in the 5th with Juno In the 11th? The quincunx is considered a karmic degree and at 0 degrees with Uranus it particularly shows me a VERY FATED relationship that has some kind of purpose! IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 30, 2014 03:26 PM
It's def not boring!! Well, I'm attached to him and I really like him a lot, he is attached to me too but he is much more spiritually immature and he wants more romantic/sexual involvement. I have a boyfriend and I kind of wished I had a male friend that I was attached to without the sex, you know? I love him a lot but I can't let my feelings grow into romantic/sexual... if I wasn't with my boyfriend then maybe I would!! I really like him though It won't let me post the Synastry ~_~
Here's the Composite with the asteroids added I will copy the aspects the Synastry makes instead lol IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 30, 2014 03:36 PM
His Saturn conjunct my ASC and my Neptune His Pluto-NN (5th) conjunct my Uranus-Persephone (1h) His Jupiter on my Osiris His Mars on my Isis His Siva on my Venus-Valentine (5th) His Venus on my Mars His Uranus on my Amor His Sun on my Mercury His NN squares my Moon His Juno on my Psyche-Chiron His Venus is on my Vesta His Vesta is on my Inannen His Mars-Psyche is my Ceres His Eros on my Pluto His Neptune square my Mars His Mars square my Sun His Moon trine my Moon His Pallas is on my ASC, sq my Moon His Saturn sq my Moon His eros inconjunct my Vesta His Ishtar conjunct my SunThe midpoints are interesting, my Moon/Pluto is hit my his luminary His Venus/Pluto is hit by my Sun (squ) IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 30, 2014 03:41 PM
You have two additional soulmate pairings here: Siva sextile Kaali and Amor quincunx valentine!What are your feelings for him? Are there sparks on your side? IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 30, 2014 03:46 PM
His Pluto-NN (5th) conjunct my Uranus-Persephone (1h) (Soulmate pairing strong) His Venus on my Mars (Soulmate pairing) His Juno on my Psyche-Chiron (Strong Cinderella linkage)MmmmmHmmmmm..... Oops, forgot this one: His NN squares my Moon (Marriage aspect) IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 30, 2014 04:18 PM
omg! We have the Pluto-Persephone ... I totally forgot that was a pairing. Ha! Yeah there's some sparks, he's cute and I have an attraction to him in some ways. I don't want to act on them though LOL and I'm ok with being friends. Sorry I'm a little embarrassed cuz it may seem I'm being a jerk to my boyfriend lol Thanks for the reading tgem IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4733 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted June 30, 2014 04:57 PM
Ha tgem, we also have Moon sq Pluto!!IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 30, 2014 05:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: omg! We have the Pluto-Persephone ... I totally forgot that was a pairing. Ha! Yeah there's some sparks, he's cute and I have an attraction to him in some ways. I don't want to act on them though LOL and I'm ok with being friends. Sorry I'm a little embarrassed cuz it may seem I'm being a jerk to my boyfriend lol Thanks for the reading tgem
No no, I didn't take it that way at all..totally cool about your BF. I do think this guy is meant to be in life though..never know what may come down the road. Thanks to you as well❤
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