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deepseablues
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posted September 22, 2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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deepseablues
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posted September 23, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping in hopes of some help

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deepseablues
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posted September 26, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One last bump with fingers crossed

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VestaFlake
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posted September 27, 2014 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestaFlake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a newbie but let's try together. remember your former saturn returns such as 1/4 or 1/2 around your ages 7-8 and 16-17. What happened?

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deepseablues
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posted September 27, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't have a happy childhood/ time growing up... It's probably best if I don't describe the events that happened around those ages...... Or any age. Hence why I am so concerned.
Also those wouldn't have been returns but squares and oppositions....

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posted September 27, 2014 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestaFlake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Saturn puts people in hard situations but its for the good. It is the first grade teacher who lacks compassion but teaches everything perfectly.

So in squares and oppositions I also have many of them. The harder they get the more they have to offer.

May be it's better you post your previous saturn return charts and see the events from the perspective of charts. Or if you think it way too much to share, you can look it up by yourself.

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deepseablues
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posted September 28, 2014 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes they say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, unfortunately I have never agreed with this statement. My difficulties have made me weaker/more depressed. Never feeling stronger, only ever sadder/more tired.

And yes too much to share. Also, I have never had Saturn Return yet, it is only Return when Saturn conjuncts natal Saturn, the squares and oppositions are not Returns, unless I am mistaken.

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seekinglight
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posted September 28, 2014 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seekinglight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am just an amateur, but here's a quick look:

Your chiron and moon have been dragged into the recent and still ongoing cardinal grand cross, which would be a double blow for you emotionally. You probably have already uncovered some of your emotional issues and worked on healing them now.

Natally, with chiron/jupiter conjunction in 7th, there is a potentiality for your partner to heal/wound you or vice versa, or for you or your partner to be a mentor for each other. It'll be important to pick a suitable/matured partner - not physically, but rather emotionally/spiritually matured.

The recent Pluto/Asc transit would have taught you on taking back your power and empowering yourself. There would be moments of powerlessness/being overpowered that would eventually lead you to taking your power back, setting boundaries, and taking charge of your life.

Neptune/saturn conjunction natally gives a disillusionment effect as saturn will burst whatever bubbles of illusions you have and gives a dose of reality. It may give you self doubts or insecurity on you capability of handling your life. There will be times when you need to let go of certain life aspects/things that you have identified in life. It is important to be self grounded and learn to separate the self from any types of outworn identity which include beliefs/relationship/career/possessions/etc.

With transit saturn moving through your 12th house, you'll be uncovering lots of your unresolved issues, so take this time for quiet reflection and contemplation and make the necessary changes. By the time, this hits your Asc and natal saturn, hopefully a new you will be reborn.

I'm sure many are going through challenging times with the current astrological climate. Some see it as an acceleration in our evolution process, take comfort in that you are growing deeper into maturity.

Take things one step at a time. Reflect on the past and make appropriate changes, but don't dwell. Hope for a brighter future, but don't dwell on what's going to happen. Just keep working on what you've got at hand currently, and really celebrate the pain and joy of today. The past is over and tomorrow can wait for later.

Overall I see saturn return as a maturing process, and yours would be a time when you would rediscover yourself and found the courage to take the steering wheel and head off in a new direction.

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deepseablues
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posted September 28, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your insights. A lot of what you have said about current transits is true. Although I don't yet feel empowered after those Pluto transits. And yes my ex partner has wounded me immensely, perhaps I did to him in the end as well although his capacity to feel seems to have been long since destroyed by his own means. In the end he seemed a double personality or even possessed. I no longer recognized the person behind the eyes, and feel I will never love/trust again.

I hope what you say about the Saturn Return is true. I am having a hard time having hope for the next few years as I can't see how anything will get better before the Saturn Return and its seems like a lot of people have unpleasant experiences around this time, not to mention Saturn transiting the 12th doesn't sound like much fun especially for a person who already suffers from life long depression, and I have read the Saturn conjunct Ascendant is the hardest transit so I have been worrying about mine obsessively because I already have Saturn conjunct Asc natally and all those other unpleasant Saturn aspects and feeling like Saturn Return will be a double or triple whammy.

Thanks so much for your time and everything you have written.

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