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Topic: Let's talk about love...
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ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 21, 2014 07:37 PM
From a really young age, I have loved the idea of love. My parents met when they were 15 and 17 and have been inseparable since. I've always hoped that my relationship would mirror theirs (because I really admire their resilience and ability to stick with eachother), but I find that more often than not, I am stuck in the friendZone - despite the loyalty.What usually happens is that the person comes back to say that they have made a mistake by letting me go, but because it's been so long... They are non factors and past situations that WILL NOT go back to. With that said, everyone is just getting engaged, getting married, having babies; and I'm yet to have someone really take things seriously with me and SACRIFICE. I'm frustrated. * From my natal, are their specific aspects that PUSH me into the friendZone (almost automatically?) * Can you tell from my natal what types of guys that I am attracted to, or I am likely to attract? * Around what age will I meet someone and start a significant relationship? IP: Logged |
moonstarr77 Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 21, 2014 09:25 PM
I think you would do better posting these in one of the 'astrology' forums. you will get better responses. this board is for reading cards and such things, not many chart readings here. just letting you know.IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 22, 2014 03:38 AM
Thanks MoonStar77! I read the summaries and thought I posted to the right place IP: Logged |
ungumuda Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 22, 2014 07:28 AM
Hei Ikja, I couldn't see your chart since I'm on my phone, but if I recall correctly we share some similar placements: scorpio rising, Gemini sun, venus taurus? correct? I never been in serious relationship either. In natal I have Saturn squares venus. I read that delayed marriage or something like that. IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 22, 2014 08:46 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ungumuda: Hei Ikja, I couldn't see your chart since I'm on my phone, but if I recall correctly we share some similar placements: scorpio rising, Gemini sun, venus taurus? correct? I never been in serious relationship either. In natal I have Saturn squares venus. I read that delayed marriage or something like that. [/QUOTEYes you are correct I have pluto opposite venus. Funnily enough, I have saturn trine venus. What annoys me the most is that I think that as a Gemini, we are naturally on the look out for the other missing twin or for real connections. However, when this desire is put alongside more challenging natal aspects... It's so disheartening! IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 22, 2014 09:26 PM
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ungumuda Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 22, 2014 09:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by ikja:
Yes you are correct I have pluto opposite venus. Funnily enough, I have saturn trine venus. What annoys me the most is that I think that as a Gemini, we are naturally on the look out for the other missing twin or for real connections. However, when this desire is put alongside more challenging natal aspects... It's so disheartening!
I'm not sure about trine, but I read somewhere that with my venus squares Saturn, I should consider to settle down after my Saturn return, I think it will be on my thirty. I hope you don't mind me asking, are you in your twenties? I think Saturn aspect to venus and taurus venus and DSC make us long for for partner with stability and maturity. But most people in their twenties aren't mature enough, well at least I think so. I see thirty as the age where people more grounded and understand themselves better, thus they can weathered life trial much more admirably. I still couldn't see your chart but I guess your fifth start in Pisces? Pisces is dreamer and romantic. Fifth house also known as house of romance. So this placements make me sort of hopeless romantic. If you have it too, its probably why you love the idea of being in love. I think it also make me a bit like a piscean (my neptune also aspects moon and venus) and attracted to pisces quality. As a Gemini, I want a guy that I admire intellectually. Doesn't mean he has to be above average IQ, but he can challenge me in intellectual level. Someone who can keep up with my mercurial energy. But also give me personal space to grow my individual self. Scorpio riser craves deep connection. However I'm not the type that can be open up easily. For me, trust must be earned. So I think he must be really patience and strong willed. I like the man who know what he wants and go for it, yet sensitive and kind to other people. IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 03:15 AM
I think you are literally my twin *wails*I'm actually 24. So I'm not too young, but not old enough either. I definitely think I'm not completely mature enough yet, but at the same time... It is frustrating that I can't even say that I've had a proper boyfriend of like 2/3 years. My longest relationships have been with the same person, but they have lasted months (totalling a year). I definitely long for a mature partner, but no someone who is extremely old. I always end up associating with the men who are the eldest in their family or the oldest boys lol (ha ha ha). Funnily enough, my brother says the same thing as you, that men are not mature enough until they hit 30, but I'm just like... Really?! And in the meantime, I do what exactly? (Work on myself right? Lol). It's annoying not to hAve someone share your achievements and low moments with. My 4th starts in Pisces, but my 5th starts in Aries and then moves to Taurus. Well damn, my venus aspects to neptune (trine) lol - well that makes sense. I long for starting a family etc. But someone in me says that I do not want to mess it up and really do want to pick the right man for the job - someone dependable and not selfish! I just don't understand why such men are absent?! *arrrgh* You are so spot on with the Gemini/Scorpio conundrum. You know, a part of me thinks that I have too many 'personality' type requirements to ever be adequately fulfilled IP: Logged |
ungumuda Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:10 AM
I'm 24, too. And i finally see your chart. Yes we could almost be a twin, we share many same placements and house overlap, but my Mercury in the taurus, conjunt your Venus I think and moon in libra loosely opposite your aries mars, I have mars on aries 5th house too. We probably born in same day or couple days a part. Have you checked your progressed chart? my prog sun currently in cancer, so that would make me more family oriented. Maybe if yours in cancer too, that is why you want to be partner up? You know sometimes I think I have such a ridiculous high standards for my ideal man. I think, if he even does exist, he probably not quite grow up yet to be the man I want LoL. And i don't think I ready for that kind of commitment as well. So I'll be patience Edit: I think with aries fifth house plus moon and mars on aries you would like someone with fire quality, like ambitious, direct, bold. But also something in libra to counter those aries fire
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ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 08:17 AM
I was born on June 16 I've just checked my progressed natal and you're right, my sun is in Cancer. It's going to be in Cancer until at least 2020 lol - but I can't imagine feeling this way for the next 5 years. What a joke. A part of me also doesn't think in ready for what I want. I think I'm ready (tbh) but then when things don't go the way I want them to, I see that I do have some immature tendencies. However, I am committed to working of those and growing out of them. It's just a shame that I haven't met someone who can be realistic and honest about their shortcomings. I guess it is about taking things a day at a time. I haven't quite mastered that yet. I would love someone who is a direct/go getting type of person. However, they would also need to be able to mellow me out somewhat. My passion has the ability to go from 0-100; and I guess I need to team up with someone who knows how to interpret that. The journey continues? IP: Logged |
ungumuda Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 09:26 AM
I was born on June 3rdI think you feel that way because everyone else you know seem already have significant other. You kinda envy what they have or what you think they have. You know being in relationship is not always as supportive and lovely as it should be, sharing joy and achievement and endure the worst of time. It could be if both parties are mature and willing to work it. But many times ego could get in the way, resulting lots of fight and heartaches. I can see the logic of not settling down before Saturn return, actually. I think we will be more mature and hopefully wiser then. You just need to be patience IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by ungumuda: I was born on June 3rdI think you feel that way because everyone else you know seem already have significant other. You kinda envy what they have or what you think they have. You know being in relationship is not always as supportive and lovely as it should be, sharing joy and achievement and endure the worst of time. It could be if both parties are mature and willing to work it. But many times ego could get in the way, resulting lots of fight and heartaches. I can see the logic of not settling down before Saturn return, actually. I think we will be more mature and hopefully wiser then. You just need to be patience
Was definitely on the receiving end of ego in my last relationship. Definitely and its a shame because it could have been a beautiful story. Tbh, as much as I get down hearted about the fact that I may be single or may not start a family before 30, it's always been that I WANT something that will last and stand the test of time. Loyalty and perseverance are so important to me. So, I would trade happiness now for better in the long run.
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3305 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 23, 2014 07:20 PM
age 35 is when you will meet your true love.IP: Logged |
ungumuda Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:37 PM
Aww don't feel so bummed out. It just few years to your thirty or thirty five. And a lot of people marry in their thirties. As they say life begin at thirty, so just enjoy And I think I won't marry anytime soon. We could be single sophisticated buddies IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: age 35 is when you will meet your true love.
Lmaaaaaaaaaaao Should I cry now? Or... IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by ungumuda: Aww don't feel so bummed out. It just few years to your thirty or thirty five. And a lot of people marry in their thirties. As they say life begin at thirty, so just enjoy And I think I won't marry anytime soon. We could be single sophisticated buddies
I think I've officially decided that the universe is against me. There's no other reason/justification for it lol. It's telling me to wait 10 years? 10?! Looooooool. Aha. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3305 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 23, 2014 07:47 PM
its not about waiting its about being ready. you still have things to experience before you're ready for it. IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: its not about waiting its about being ready. you still have things to experience before you're ready for it.
Yeah I know. I've been a hell of a lot though. Can't imagine what else there is to experience tbh. I'm being deadly serious looool. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3305 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 23, 2014 07:51 PM
The mind of God is much greater than ours. IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:57 PM
God and I have exchanged some very passionate words this year lol. You know when you're developing more of an anger. I think what frustrates me is that, I've seen people that have not been very good to me get married and move on to someone better suited. That's fine. I can accept that, but honestly... men that I'm meeting? Even after I let relationships go? Life should give me a break! It really does make me wonder and gets ME a little bit annoyed to be honest. I don't really know what else is wanted from me at this point lol.IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 222 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 07:59 PM
And if these feelings are linked to my Venus/Pluto - this thread is dedicated to all of those with this aspect, who feel the way I do lol.IP: Logged |
Miranda01 Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Hope in the Darkness Registered: Jan 2014
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posted November 23, 2014 11:10 PM
Hi ikja.. I saw your natal chart in libran_dream's post and I found that you too had your natal saturn opposite venus the entire year.Guess what,mine too! And it has been aweful this year. Now in your thread,I find that you too have venus opposition pluto,venus trine saturn venus square jupiter,venus square neptune aspects. I have these aspects too!And OMG you are 24 too :P so many similarities.. I guess we kind of were born around the same time and almost same place. Love life has been very hard for me.I have theree big outer planets in my 5th house(snap!) i.e saturn,uranus,neptune all retrograde.The guys I have liked never liked me back in the beginning.And people whom I have thought to be soulmates..the one have turned out to be nothing.It has mostly been full of illusions.I unintentionally put people on a pedestal and then make them the great love of my life..everything perfect but in the end as usual..it turns out all bad. This year has been full of lessons..2 major things happened.A guy I was seeing went with a friend of mine.But I should have guessed that but I still clung on to him.Another was a fling,he wanted nothing serious. I am so glad you made this thread,feels really good to share stuff.Just wanted to say you are not alone.. Edit : Just checked,you were born on June 16.I was born on June 18,1990. IP: Logged |