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DaniPepper87
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posted June 12, 2015 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Things aren't the best in my house... My mom isn't well, she doesn't even get to make her lunch, she fell in the kitchen last week. My father needs a heart transplant and needs to be in repouse. I need to work, and where my job is is far from my house...

I know there are more people with worst situation, but seeing my mom crying everyday because she didn't have force to go and make the kind of lunch she wants, breaks my heart and I'm crying almost everyday...

I'd like to exchange with someone, I just need to know when this episode will end...

I'll do a 6 card tarot reading...

Thanks for all

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posted June 12, 2015 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dani,

I can take a peek at your chart, but I don't have your birthdate, time, and place.

Let me know.

Take care,
Spring

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posted June 12, 2015 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Springtimeflower!!!

Wow, thanks for this!!!

My data is:

November, 13th of 1987
05:47AM
Curitiba

Leave me your question... and thanks, I'll love to learn what you can see in my chart!

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posted June 12, 2015 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to see you on Dani!

Let me put your chart together. I'll take a quick look at the transits and then follow that...so you don't have to wait too long.

Here's my question:

I feel like I'm progressing with the puppy I have. Can you tell me how things will go? Would training be worthwhile or not worth the money? I have two people in mind--D and L, but they both gave me different perspectives on getting the puppy to just behave.

brb with yours.

Thank you,
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posted June 12, 2015 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's what I noticed in your chart about your mother:

Your natal Saturn rules both your 4th house (mother, home, family) as well as your 3rd house (siblings, communications, writing) and is placed in your 2nd house (values), but Uranus, which rules your 5th house (social, creative, children, romance) is also in your second house near (conjunct) your natal Saturn.

All that happens with your mother/home/family tends to put a damper on your social, creative, children, romance goals, because Saturn instills a sense of responsibility to your family, but Uranus craves freedom and spontaneity.

more to follow....

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posted June 12, 2015 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the moment you have transiting Neptune in your 5th house (social, romance) squaring the ruler of your 7th house (partnership), so maybe what is happening with your family/mom now may seem like a burden, but could very well be a blessing in disguise. The transit of Neptune (squaring) your Venus could bring you a very spiritual relationship, but also a person who could misrepresent themselves, deceive you, unavailable--like already married. Even for this you could be swept away. Try to have another set of eyes/ears look/listen to them as what they seem to be may not be.

Anyways, while the above is happening (thru mid/late December 2017), you also have your Saturn return (my father passed at my first one). Your Saturn return will finish out around mid December 2016.

With your natal Saturn conjunct your Venus, there are normally delays (partnership) or it could be with an older man or both.

more to come....

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posted June 12, 2015 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yicks, I'm sorry!!

I don't see much change with your father. Of course that can be good if you're looking at it positively meaning nothing bad is going to be happening. I think your mom will Feel better and I think her mental energy will get better but so always have her breaking moments...maybe three more weeks of this. and then she'll go on as usual but in the future so break once in awhile and have a cry fest which is normal with the stress is going through. and that's a pretty bad situation that you're in so definitely make sure you're well rested and keep yourself working

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posted June 12, 2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like things will get a bit intense at home next week as transiting Mars will make a conjunction with your natal Chiron (wounds) in your 8th house (other peoples values, possessions) and at the same time will oppose your natal Uranus (ruling your social, romance house) and make you mad. After that week, transiting Jupiter and Venus will make a good contact to your social loving moon in Leo, but with the transiting sun and mars squaring your north node, your family members won't be happy with you getting out for a bit.

With transiting Uranus hovering around your natal Jupiter in your 6th house (work, service to others), and natal Jupiter trining your Moon, you could have a job pop up (bolt of lightning--out of the blue), which will be very fulfilling. Late July 2015 looks like there will be changes coming work wise. This will also be active through late February 2017. Transiting Jupiter will also be making good contacts later this year to your 6th house (work, service to others) ruler--late August, early September 2015.

Transiting Pluto in your 3rd house can make your thoughts heavy. Try making time just for you--even if you just go for a walk. Pluto moves very slowly-but will get lighter as you find ways to use its energy--good for research, getting to the bottom of things, etc. You'll have this for over 5 years.

The transit of Jupiter (the last part coming later this year) could bring you more responsibility without an increase in pay, but that will come later, so no worries. Most likely this will occur with your next job. Just remember, though, that you need to be actively looking to take advantage of the wonderful transits that are coming.

You have a lot of good things coming. Try little things to do for yourself to help you get through this time.

Hope this helps. Hugs.
Spring

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posted June 12, 2015 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, one last note. Venus transiting in Leo, which should bring you social later this month, will go retrograde this year and you should have more social time in late September through mid/late October.

Spring

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posted June 12, 2015 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Springtimeflower, first of all, congrats for having a puppy. I just love cub from almost all animals, and it is the best time of its life!! You'll remember it forever

For the cards now!

King of Swords - Emperor - 2 of Cups - High Priestess - 3 of Pentacles

Hum...Seems like there's a great chance that you can make progress with the puppy. I see that its the alfa from the litter, and then the Emperor here is shown, by heart I know that this little one will give you some headaches, but nothing to worry that much. I see that the las 3 cards shows that you can take the idea fronm the one that you see who's more in love with pets, sometimes this person doesn't ask much money. You'll see the puppy's progress going slow, just because of this alfa feeling, but I see that you will be very very happy in the end, seeing the good work.

The cards advice: take one that you feel that loves the job, who is worried with you and with the puppy, in the end, you'll end up with a friend too!!!

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posted June 12, 2015 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You got the right feeling I'm having now.... I remember last wedsneday, I went to Reiki practice, and then I returned home, my mom fell in the kitchen. It took almost one hour for her to get up, and my father isn't well too.

This Uranus/Saturn push and pull is driving me crazy! I want freedom, but then I sit near my mom's bed and cry... I even stop drawing/making art. I have a lot of art materials and they are there, stopped...

quote:
Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Here's what I noticed in your chart about your mother:

Your natal Saturn rules both your 4th house (mother, home, family) as well as your 3rd house (siblings, communications, writing) and is placed in your 2nd house (values), but Uranus, which rules your 5th house (social, creative, children, romance) is also in your second house near (conjunct) your natal Saturn.

All that happens with your mother/home/family tends to put a damper on your social, creative, children, romance goals, because Saturn instills a sense of responsibility to your family, but Uranus craves freedom and spontaneity.

more to follow....


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posted June 12, 2015 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 years ago, I had someone that entered in my life, I had Uranus trining my Venus... I really didn't liked that. Too much freedom with a lot of lies...

I fear for my father... He needs a heart, and things aren't good in Brazil. I fear the rejection of the organ in his body. I fear that my mom's story being repeated: she lost her father when she was 14, and then she and her mother, only the 2... for a long time before my father comes and marry her....

And Neptune in the 5th is not a good one... I tend to fall in love that easy...

quote:
Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
At the moment you have transiting Neptune in your 5th house (social, romance) squaring the ruler of your 7th house (partnership), so maybe what is happening with your family/mom now may seem like a burden, but could very well be a blessing in disguise. The transit of Neptune (squaring) your Venus could bring you a very spiritual relationship, but also a person who could misrepresent themselves, deceive you, unavailable--like already married. Even for this you could be swept away. Try to have another set of eyes/ears look/listen to them as what they seem to be may not be.

Anyways, while the above is happening (thru mid/late December 2017), you also have your Saturn return (my father passed at my first one). Your Saturn return will finish out around mid December 2016.

With your natal Saturn conjunct your Venus, there are normally delays (partnership) or it could be with an older man or both.

more to come....


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posted June 12, 2015 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, for the intensiting... I remember having transiting Mars and Jupiter in the 8th while I met my ex... and I had real trouble (the one that scared me, my mom wants to kill him, not a joke!!!).

Job... I feel like I'm going to be fired, because I'm not seeing progress here, OR maybe the project finally goes on!! lol I hope so!

Do you think that going out a little more, and even art can help me???

quote:
Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
It looks like things will get a bit intense at home next week as transiting Mars will make a conjunction with your natal Chiron (wounds) in your 8th house (other peoples values, possessions) and at the same time will oppose your natal Uranus (ruling your social, romance house) and make you mad. After that week, transiting Jupiter and Venus will make a good contact to your social loving moon in Leo, but with the transiting sun and mars squaring your north node, your family members won't be happy with you getting out for a bit.

With transiting Uranus hovering around your natal Jupiter in your 6th house (work, service to others), and natal Jupiter trining your Moon, you could have a job pop up (bolt of lightning--out of the blue), which will be very fulfilling. Late July 2015 looks like there will be changes coming work wise. This will also be active through late February 2017. Transiting Jupiter will also be making good contacts later this year to your 6th house (work, service to others) ruler--late August, early September 2015.

Transiting Pluto in your 3rd house can make your thoughts heavy. Try making time just for you--even if you just go for a walk. Pluto moves very slowly-but will get lighter as you find ways to use its energy--good for research, getting to the bottom of things, etc. You'll have this for over 5 years.

The transit of Jupiter (the last part coming later this year) could bring you more responsibility without an increase in pay, but that will come later, so no worries. Most likely this will occur with your next job. Just remember, though, that you need to be actively looking to take advantage of the wonderful transits that are coming.

You have a lot of good things coming. Try little things to do for yourself to help you get through this time.

Hope this helps. Hugs.
Spring


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posted June 12, 2015 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spring... I just realized that you did a lot of wonderful work on my chart, and I posted the reading before seeing the analysis... Leave me more questions... I'd gladly do them for you!

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posted June 12, 2015 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh hi there Cherful!

Thanks a lot for your reading! I really appreciate!

And what's your question?? Cards ready here!

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Originally posted by cherful24:
Yicks, I'm sorry!!

I don't see much change with your father. Of course that can be good if you're looking at it positively meaning nothing bad is going to be happening. I think your mom will Feel better and I think her mental energy will get better but so always have her breaking moments...maybe three more weeks of this. and then she'll go on as usual but in the future so break once in awhile and have a cry fest which is normal with the stress is going through. and that's a pretty bad situation that you're in so definitely make sure you're well rested and keep yourself working


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posted June 12, 2015 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
Springtimeflower, first of all, congrats for having a puppy. I just love cub from almost all animals, and it is the best time of its life!! You'll remember it forever

For the cards now!

[b]King of Swords - Emperor - 2 of Cups - High Priestess - 3 of Pentacles

Hum...Seems like there's a great chance that you can make progress with the puppy. I see that its the alfa from the litter, and then the Emperor here is shown, by heart I know that this little one will give you some headaches, but nothing to worry that much. I see that the las 3 cards shows that you can take the idea fronm the one that you see who's more in love with pets, sometimes this person doesn't ask much money. You'll see the puppy's progress going slow, just because of this alfa feeling, but I see that you will be very very happy in the end, seeing the good work.

The cards advice: take one that you feel that loves the job, who is worried with you and with the puppy, in the end, you'll end up with a friend too!!![/B]



Thank you! I'm glad you picked up on the alpha, because that's what I've been seeing. Trying to make sure she walks behind me and that seems to be helping a lot.

One of them (L) wanted a consult fee upfront to show or explain how to get her to behave before taking any further training classes. The other one (D) told me what she thought I needed to do now (no consult fee) before I could take the puppy to her classes later and didn't ask for any money.

I did notice that one of the dogs that was there for training (with L) when I visited the store, was so nervous, but it didn't look like she (L) thought there was anything you could do about it (that's the way the breed is). Mentally I disagreed, but didn't say anything.

Can you confirm that the best choice would be D?

Thank you,
Spring

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posted June 12, 2015 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
You got the right feeling I'm having now.... I remember last wedsneday, I went to Reiki practice, and then I returned home, my mom fell in the kitchen. It took almost one hour for her to get up, and my father isn't well too.

This Uranus/Saturn push and pull is driving me crazy! I want freedom, but then I sit near my mom's bed and cry... I even stop drawing/making art. I have a lot of art materials and they are there, stopped...


On the push pull--give some to both...even if just baby steps....pick up your pad and draw a little...away from home and the tears...

Hugs,
Spring

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posted June 12, 2015 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
2 years ago, I had someone that entered in my life, I had Uranus trining my Venus... I really didn't liked that. Too much freedom with a lot of lies...

I fear for my father... He needs a heart, and things aren't good in Brazil. I fear the rejection of the organ in his body. I fear that my mom's story being repeated: she lost her father when she was 14, and then she and her mother, only the 2... for a long time before my father comes and marry her....

And Neptune in the 5th is not a good one... I tend to fall in love that easy...


The Saturn transit/return is a time when you look at your life with a more serious eye--friendships, your appearance, partners, etc. and look to see where you need to make changes.

My mom was 13 when her father passed, but my dad lived to be 71. You don't have any squares (I do) to your natal Saturn, so it could be that your father does get the transplant he needs or some other breakthrough as your 6th house (health as well as work) is also affected by the bolt out of the blue for good luck there for your father).

Get a trusted friend or relative to meet the person and give you an honest evaluation of them. You have a good heart Dani. Sometimes we see people a certain way, but maybe try stepping back and just have conversations without putting your heart out first. Ask the person: what do you want from me? What are your intentions? It's a good way to clear the deck and only keep the best of the best.


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posted June 12, 2015 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
Well, for the intensiting... I remember having transiting Mars and Jupiter in the 8th while I met my ex... and I had real trouble (the one that scared me, my mom wants to kill him, not a joke!!!).

Job... I feel like I'm going to be fired, because I'm not seeing progress here, OR maybe the project finally goes on!! lol I hope so!

Do you think that going out a little more, and even art can help me???


There seems to be a change coming up.

Yep, the going out and art will help relieve the pressure because you are bottling up all the stress from the sadness around you. Laughing does your heart and soul good.

Take baby steps, though, so your folks don't feel abandoned.

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posted June 12, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dani.

Will my health get better in the next couple of months? I've been working on it for so long.

Thank you,
Spring

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posted June 12, 2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm on my 5th dog, and she's the first alpha and among me, my father and mom, she chosed me!!

Ok, For your question....

Page of Swords - Page of Wands - King of Swords - 3 of Cups - Chariot

Ok, seems like D is the better. Not only your puppy but I think D will teach you too. I sense that it will be like a double-training, where you and the puppy will learn together. I feel that D will be in the begining a little too mental, you can confuse this as a rude act, but it is not like this! You know, being the alpha, your puppy needs a strong approach for being trained, yes I know this, maybe in the end you'll have to waste a little more money, but you'll have a great dog trained! Ah, I see that you both you'll learn very fast everything D will teach you!

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:

Can you confirm that the best choice would be D?

Thank you,
Spring


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posted June 12, 2015 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Judgement - Lovers - Page of Swords - Page of Wands - King of Pentacles

Well, seems like you'll have a choice for your health go better: a doctor can make you change your minf in some alternative way... I mean, I don't know if you have a good thinking about alternative medicine, but I see you taking it for a better way of life. See again the Pages... Your puppy will help you through this process, I see the recover of your health, but it won't be that quickly... But once you recover it, I think you won't let it go away...

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Thanks Dani.

Will my health get better in the next couple of months? I've been working on it for so long.

Thank you,
Spring


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posted June 12, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
[b]Judgement - Lovers - Page of Swords - Page of Wands - King of Pentacles

Well, seems like you'll have a choice for your health go better: a doctor can make you change your minf in some alternative way... I mean, I don't know if you have a good thinking about alternative medicine, but I see you taking it for a better way of life. See again the Pages... Your puppy will help you through this process, I see the recover of your health, but it won't be that quickly... But once you recover it, I think you won't let it go away...

[/B]


Thank you.

I've been to three alternative medicine doctors. One Chinese--but you take their tonic always just like Western medicine. The other two--one started out okay, but I needed to watch what I was eating and it didn't work. The other one initially wanted to helped, but backed up when they went upscale and just wanted a return patient.

Do the cards indicate what type of alternative medicine? The doctor I have now looks at natural ways also, but when I talked about getting better, he looked at me like it was wishful thinking on my part.

I've been doing tapping and EFT, which seem to help, but haven't been doing it fully lately with the puppy here. Some of the training stress with the puppy probably hasn't helped me as well. It isn't quiet where I'm living at the moment either. I think it affects the puppy, too.

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posted June 12, 2015 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think something to do with food, do you eat vegetables? I sense that the power of Earth can help you to have energy for cure yourself. But I'm happy that you're doing already something. Don't give up with this doctor's treatment. You can also try something with medicinal clay, I've heard wounderful things...

And yes, your feelings will affect the puppy, but I think the puppy will help you. Mine, when I'm down, always comes and sit next to me (ok, she goes over me, my big one )...

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posted June 12, 2015 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
I'm on my 5th dog, and she's the first alpha and among me, my father and mom, she chosed me!!

Ok, For your question....

[b]Page of Swords - Page of Wands - King of Swords - 3 of Cups - Chariot

Ok, seems like D is the better. Not only your puppy but I think D will teach you too. I sense that it will be like a double-training, where you and the puppy will learn together. I feel that D will be in the begining a little too mental, you can confuse this as a rude act, but it is not like this! You know, being the alpha, your puppy needs a strong approach for being trained, yes I know this, maybe in the end you'll have to waste a little more money, but you'll have a great dog trained! Ah, I see that you both you'll learn very fast everything D will teach you!

[/B]


Wow! With five it's probably good to have an alpha--more challenge. I'm on my 1st dog. The lady I got her from picked her out, so I guess the dog in a way picked me. What was interesting is that while I had been thinking about whether or not to take what she picked out for me, I thought about changing my mind and then it was like something was crying I sensed--could it have been the dog? Really strange. The trainer "D" strikes me as professional and proper (strict) in her training, but cared enough to ask me about my puppy even though I hadn't signed up for anything.

Thank you again. I guess I just needed a little time to think this (which one to pick)all over again.

Let me know if you need help again. I know what it's like to have a parent depend on you. The last time my mom had taken a fall (she didn't hurt anything), I wasn't sure I would be able to help her up, but found the strength somewhere. I hope your workplace is okay with you taking care of your family as some of them don't see older family members as important people in society. They don't see their inherent wisdom nor do they acknowledge the consideration that is deserving of them--after all, didn't they raise us or have some of them forgotten?

Just do a little bit at a time--even if you get your art stuff out and sort through it to start. Don't feel guilty for doing something just for you. When your mom cries, just put your hand on her shoulder and hug her. When you cry, it will just bring you down. If we don't take care of ourselves, we won't be in a position to help anyone else.

Take care,
Spring


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