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Plutonian_Gal8
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posted June 27, 2015 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously I am coming from a hypochondriac angle...


I am overall the neurotic person that's always sick, and I always have something wrong physically. Even weirder is I lack the will to incorporate a lifestyle change in health and fitness. I've been this way since puberty. I was that child constantly in the nurse's office; constantly calling my parent to pick me up from school. And in the present, I honestly annoy the hell out of myself. I am very much embarrassed, when my companion asks me "How are you doing today?"- I have to FORCE myself NOT to get into a spew of why I'm not feeling well, or what's concerning me. There's an inner frustration with this habit. I mean this seriously, I am so embarrassed about my own complaining. In my mind, I have no nerve to complain. And, I don't speak on my bouts of illness because I never want to come off as if I'm aiming for a pity party. There's definitely always something I deal with. I get on my son about everything I fail to do myself with his health. Very contradictory behavior.


I know making changes is key to improving my health - I know this...no need to ram it in my head. Just curious from an astrological stand point if my chart is indicative of this behavior.


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posted June 27, 2015 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in 6th is in Taurus.

Aries moon in 5th makes you stubborn and refuses to listen to other ppl. I think you should give yourself a challenge ... That works for Aries moon

Neptune in 1st makes for confusion about sense of self. Jupiter=indulgence. The conjunction in Dag make you both opinionated (Sag) and Pisces like (Neptune-Jupiter) which is all for complacency and playing victim.

I'm reading from your chart here... Not so much my comment on your current situation

You have Scorpio Mars conjunct Saturn. I think you need to feel like your effort is tangible so the inaction might come from fears that you won't succeed. Take things step by step

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DopGang
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posted June 27, 2015 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
You're good!
I like it.

Maybe mercury square Pluto as well? Obsessive thought?

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Plutonian_Gal8
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posted June 27, 2015 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
theUnKnown

Thanks for responding! And you're spot-on with with the victim details. Always playing the victim in this area of my life - yes. All of this can be prevented but instead there's complaining. I became familiar with my Jupiter Neptune placements fairly recent.

My moon is in the 4th/Chiron in the 5th btw.

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Plutonian_Gal8
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posted June 27, 2015 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
^^
You're good!
I like it.

Maybe mercury square Pluto as well? Obsessive thought?


Never gave this one better attention! Thank you ... highly applies!...

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Seimei
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posted June 27, 2015 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
Obviously I am coming from a hypochondriac angle...


I am overall the neurotic person that's always sick, and I always have something wrong physically. Even weirder is I lack the will to incorporate a lifestyle change in health and fitness. I've been this way since puberty. I was that child constantly in the nurse's office; constantly calling my parent to pick me up from school. And in the present, I honestly annoy the hell out of myself. I am very much embarrassed, when my companion asks me "How are you doing today?"- I have to FORCE myself NOT to get into a spew of why I'm not feeling well, or what's concerning me. There's an inner frustration with this habit. I mean this seriously, I am so embarrassed about my own complaining. In my mind, I have no nerve to complain. And, I don't speak on my bouts of illness because I never want to come off as if I'm aiming for a pity party. There's definitely always something I deal with. I get on my son about everything I fail to do myself with his health. Very contradictory behavior.


I know making changes is key to improving my health - I know this...no need to ram it in my head. Just curious from an astrological stand point if my chart is indicative of this behavior.



You are Captain of your ship, you are at the Helm. You are totally capable of making
a 180 degree life turn.
Like everyone else you just have to decide.To decide is to ACT.
With Uranus so close to it's own Heliocentric node You have a capacity for sudden changes that astonishes all who know you. I have seen it happen.
Been talking to yourself about for a while
now reaching out, Sun Mercury conjunction sextile asc.
You already know what to do.

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theunknown
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posted June 27, 2015 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
theUnKnown

Thanks for responding! And you're spot-on with with the victim details. Always playing the victim in this area of my life - yes. All of this can be prevented but instead there's complaining. I became familiar with my Jupiter Neptune placements fairly recent.

My moon is in the 4th/Chiron in the 5th btw.


Sorry I didn't look too carefully... On my phone most of the time.

I'd say moon in 4th is even worse because the moon is best here like a cancer moon. So you might be less Arian than a typical Aries moon and you don't want to try new things.

My suggestion is that since Jupiter is your chart ruler, you need to find the value, ****the truth to the importance of health to you. The change for diet and work out routines is just what all the gurus and other ppl say. But you have to find the truth, pinpoint exactly why you haven't taken the steps.

Your north node in 6th says that you need to develop health and routine and digging into work through paying attention to the detail.
The original post you have is very Saggi/jupiterean ... "I know people always say this and that but I haven't found my truth, where in my chart can I find that?"
Maybe you can start by understand your self beliefs and values. What do you value? What is acceptable to your sense of self worth and what kinds of behaviors are contradictory towards your belief system?
Gemini north node says you need to learn. So read books, watch documentary... Maybe that'd help

***note: I think health issues are sensitive topics. I do t know you and all of my comments are mere suggestions based on my brief living experiences and astrological knowledge.

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posted June 27, 2015 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Janah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
North node gemini in the 6th house of health, personal hygiene, daily habits. You think yourself into sickness often, which is something my Gemini aunt with a 10th house stellium does a lot. Also, I see mercury is in Capricorn and earth signs are masters at materializing, so keep your thoughts on the realistic and rational side instead of lingering in the darkness. Moon in the 4th house makes me think you also get ill depending on your moods, like random headaches (Aries) or stomach aches (Cancer). I recommend positive affirmations for a month daily in the mirror telling yourself how healthy and strong you are. This might be easy with a Gemini north node in the 6th.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 27, 2015 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is an asteroid which may be prominent in this. I will look for it tomorrow and come back with it.

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Eirlys
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posted June 28, 2015 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*edit see following post*

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Eirlys
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posted June 28, 2015 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6th House (and NN) is *stuck* in Gemini... intercepted sign/house.

Wonder if that accounts for the difficulty you're having

when it comes to putting a plan in motion/changing in this regard.

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Randall
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posted June 28, 2015 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Personal Readings.

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GemBird82
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posted June 28, 2015 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you've head enough about possible sources of illness, Plutonian_Gal8. I could say 2-3 things about that, but what would be the point? I want you to overcome this issue, just as everyone else here.

What you can do is:
• Don't be too focused about chores.
• I see that somehow you tend to envy or even compete with your parents. Could I be wrong? In any case, if you wish you would be like them, then you are making some BIG mistake, because part of your "astrological story", is that They are the ones who are supposed to take you away from that dependent state. (Specially when you were young) So, my friend, don't blame yourself.

I see that you have probably exhausted yourself in the past.

If you want at any cost, to be on your own... take away the negativity, calm down, and 'grab' some patience. It can be done.

You may perceive that what I'm going to suggest you is a bit... unusual. But it's what I see, you need alternative options to heal ( peace with your Uranus, which in part rules the Nervous system and Cerebral activity)
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So, since typical Meds doesn't seem to be very helpful, my alternative medical solution would be:

Find a good homeopathist, one that follows the studies of Samuel Hahnemann.
- Be in peace with that 12th H. Uranus, learn from your own thoughts, relax, and let others help you. Don't be very prideful, don't torture yourself with a negative expectative of how you should be. • Because you may already have done/been everything you'd want to be now.
- Seems like you'll need to rely a lot in your partner too, at least for now.

~ Wish you all the best

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posted June 28, 2015 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
You are Captain of your ship, you are at the Helm. You are totally capable of making
a 180 degree life turn.
Like everyone else you just have to decide.To decide is to ACT.



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GemBird82
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posted June 28, 2015 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ I was typing too fast, fearing that the thread will be moved, and so it happened.
Sorry about the 99999999999 grammar mistakes in the other section

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posted June 28, 2015 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of the 6th - Mercury - squared by Pluto in 10th.

Perhaps there is an over-focus on the health of the self, that can be transformed through engaging more in the wider circles of humanity.

Groupwork, team projects, being part of organisations, and recognising your intrinsic role in the bigger picture may help. 10th house is Libra, so more balanced thinking is available to you if you venture out of self and develop an awareness of self as it relates to the others.

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posted June 28, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Janah:
North node gemini in the 6th house of health, personal hygiene, daily habits. You think yourself into sickness often, which is something my Gemini aunt with a 10th house stellium does a lot. Also, I see mercury is in Capricorn and earth signs are masters at materializing, so keep your thoughts on the realistic and rational side instead of lingering in the darkness. Moon in the 4th house makes me think you also get ill depending on your moods, like random headaches (Aries) or stomach aches (Cancer). I recommend positive affirmations for a month daily in the mirror telling yourself how healthy and strong you are. This might be easy with a Gemini north node in the 6th.


Amazing. Yes, this resonates big time. I don't think you sugar coated the truth, but instead laid out the aspects/facts and polished it off with great affirmations. I really appreciate you targeting how it is, and how I should turn it around, considering. Thank you!!

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Plutonian_Gal8
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posted June 28, 2015 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eirlys:
6th House (and NN) is *stuck* in Gemini... intercepted sign/house.

Wonder if that accounts for the difficulty you're having

when it comes to putting a plan in motion/changing in this regard.


I'm not sure but I plan on researching this one. I develop plans and then fall to the wayside. I was accounting this for transits. Transits give me the needed boost, but once a particular transit wanes...I'm lazy again. Being honest!...

Screams changeability to me...

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posted June 28, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to each and every one of you. Your input (astrological and opinions) will be taken into account


When I stress I do - I honestly work myself up into an illness. This is not ALWAYS the case however. But as most of you noted - I NEED TO FOCUS ON NN 6H - I needed to be directed towards it amongst other things. Taking care of myself and handling business is not something new. I'm grown, but more effort needs to be made to fix the issues. You can say it's mind over matter, because it is. Point blank. Interesting to KNOW such things but go off into la-la land and lose my grip.


* I have year-round allergies (typical)
* I suffer severe cramping during my cycle (typical)
* Prone to headaches very easily (fairly typical)
* Boils (not so typical)


The kicker is, once I'm dealing with these issues I keep running my mouth about it. People are always, looking for me to attend things and when I say I need to rest, or I'm under the weather it's engrained in them to say "Damn, you're always sick" Yes, I jump on search engines looking up all kinds of mess...working myself up...


Certain transits, I buckle down and write out pages on pages of meal ideas, exercises; I jump on Youtube to comb through all exercises. I formulate a meal plan for the day. I have post-it notes all over my closet door right now that I laid out to execute - but the energy dropped, my attention is elsewhere and thus the ridiculous cycle continues. I even lay in bed and mentally tell myself "get your ass up and do 30 mins at least" but I don't. It's absurd but it's my truth. Working on it....


I'll keeping working to get myself in line and CHANGE things. The mentality has to get in check just as the will to follow through does. Thanks again y'all!!!

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