posted July 17, 2015 08:41 AM            

I realize that you and the other moderators have a difficult job at best when members here post challenges to what others do, but aren't the moderators supposed to be impartial and not loyal to other members here?:

This was a post by one of you moderators:

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posted July 14, 2015 11:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,
you dont have to do a soulmate profile for me, I`d rather discuss the 5th harmonic with you.

Yes, in IR.

But before we start with that, I need to get something out of the way.
Do you also feel I am not loyal towards you?
Enneline pointed that out, but I wanted to know how you think about it, and if you do feel like it, I`d like to get this out of the way, so it doesn`t stand in between us, unless you don`t want to talk about it of course.

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There seems to be a clique forming here and that's sad. When I first came to LL people got into a fight on some of these threads and seemed to mend their differences, but cliques just seem to gang up on others and create hostile social groups.

posted July 17, 2015 08:49 AM            

On the contrary, Ceri was accused of being disloyal (as a friend) because she stepped out in that thread and tried to do her moderator job, tried to be impartial and disarm the conflict (despite our personal closer connection)? She isn't even a moderator there yet she did this.

She stood up for VenusScorpio in an attempt to disarm the tension on that thread.

Her moderator intervention was pristine.

What she did is the opposite of a clique.

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AstroMandala

posted July 17, 2015 08:54 AM            

Ceri, has been here for a long time even before me and I have learned so much from her. she helps everyone who asks her. Ceri and leeLoo were having a personal conversation about a situation. And asking to move it as to not take over thread.
Ceri has done a lot for me in the past to help me when I did not want everything out in the open for others to see. She has been a good long time friend and got me throughout some very dark times with helping me to see things I could not on my own. I have learned so much from her

posted July 17, 2015 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It was a personal matter between me and Ceri as friends, that has nothing to do with moderation?

On the contrary, Ceri was accused of being disloyal (as a friend) because she stepped out in that thread and tried to do her moderator job, tried to be impartial and disarm the conflict (despite our personal closer connection)?

She stood up for VenusScorpio in an attempt to disarm the tension on that thread.

Her moderator intervention was pristine.

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Leeloo,

Perception is one thing, disrespecting Randall and me by posting on my thread is another. I think the discussion should be between him and Ceri. She is more than capable of speaking for herself.

posted July 17, 2015 08:59 AM            

With that said, I do respect Leeloo and Enneline (Ceri too) because in the past they have helped me out with readings and guidance. I don't actually have any ill feeling towards Venus either, (this is the internet for goodness sake) but I do see what has been said and the truth to it and I have brought that to her fairly.

In the past I have voiced my disagreement with certain things in the Horary Forum and those instances were not prompted by anyone; and the matters simply resolved themselves.

I just wanted to make sure that I got that out there. Spring, sorry if you weren't referring or were referring to me (lol); but I wanted to make my position clear because I see myself as neutral member of LL.

posted July 17, 2015 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Leeloo,

Perception is one thing, disrespecting Randall and me by posting on my thread is another. I think the discussion should be between him and Ceri. She is more than capable of speaking for herself.

Thank you,
Spring

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Excuse me?? You are quoting my name, my thread, my posts! You made a thread out of them! The last time I saw you here was asking and getting readings from me.

You expect no reaction? What do you think you're doing here, a fist in the mouth and sayonara? Who is disrespecting who?

Also, some people here, you included, should be aware of this fact: this is a PUBLIC FORUM. Which means everyone can post on every thread, comment, give their opinion. It also means you have to respect other people with your posts, threads, behavior, language.

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AstroMandala

posted July 17, 2015 09:09 AM            

Have manners. This is pretty simple. Do not interrupt a conversation, be polite and watch your ‘please’ and ‘thank you’. By showing manners towards someone, you make them feel valuable

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posted July 17, 2015 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Here's #5 out of the the 10 ways on how to be respectful:

Have manners. This is pretty simple. Do not interrupt a conversation, be polite and watch your ‘please’ and ‘thank you’. By showing manners towards someone, you make them feel valuable

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Your thread is about me. When you do a thread about me, you just invited yourself to a conversation with me.

Please use minimal logic.

posted July 17, 2015 11:02 AM            

Springtimeflower,

I would have preferred it if you had adressed your issues directly at me, as it seems to concern me personally.

However, Leeloo, explained it right, in that other thread I had tried to de-escalate the conflict between VenusinScorpio and Leeloo (and Enneline).
By doing that I had not being sharp and clear enough in terms of the personal insults being hurled at Leeloo, for the reason that I hoped it would have a more calming effect if I stayed calm as well (sadly I was mistaken).
By not being clear enough about those insults being an absolute No-Go, I got criticiszed for being illoyal towards Leeloo.
While I personally did not perceive it as such, I wanted to discuss it with Leeloo, as it was something that concerned her, but she hadn`t said something about it.

We are friends, yes, and it will always happen that you feel closer to some members of a group than others, however...

keep in mind that I would have reacted the same if you had accused me of illoyalty towards someone else.
I would have addressed that issue to find out if the other person saw it that way, too, to clear up any issue and sort it out.

Maybe loyalty is not even the right word, what is most important to me and what I consider my personal form of loyalty, is honesty and fairness. Treating the other person fairly and just.
And I strive to practice that towards every member here (of course I am not a perfect human being, so there might be occasions I don´t succeed as ideally as I would like to).

There has been NO ganging up on anyone!
At least not to my knowledge and observation.
It`s true that VenusinScorpio got into the spotlight, and honestly I felt uncomfortable with this singling-out (though I understand how that came about), but I felt even more uncomfortable with the kind of verbal lashing out that happened, and in my absence today seems to have continued and worsened.

Also, I am not moderator of that particular forum, so I don´t even know how much of a right I have to speak up and did so not as a moderator, but as a member.

I have long considered if I should write that post on here at all, after all the thread is not even adressed to me (though it revolves around me).
But I did so to explain my thoughts and intentions behind these posts I did.

Apart from that it saddens me to see that you, Springtimeflower, obviously felt you couldn´t talk to me directly, and I am not quite sure why you felt that way.

posted July 17, 2015 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Leeloo,

Perception is one thing, disrespecting Randall and me by posting on my thread is another. I think the discussion should be between him and Ceri. She is more than capable of speaking for herself.

Thank you,
Spring

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I AM capable of speaking for myself. Yet I value the support I experience very much, especially since it was you disrespecting me.
And your patronizing tone towards Leeloo or me, is out of line.
It is not for you to decide if the discussion should be soley between Randall and myself.