posted August 05, 2015 03:34 PM            

I used to be the super popular, talented and buoyant kid in kindergarden and in elementary school, after that some people decided to bully me and from there on it just got downhill. But it's never been as bad as it is now.
I constantly meet a lot of people and initially they are very interested in me because I somehow seem to be a very mysterious person (haha Scorpio stellium) and after a while - poof - they get to know the "real" me and just decide to leave. Which I don't understand, I'm just like everybody else.
This even effects my family. We are a lot of siblings and used to be very close but during the last two years pretty much all of them cut ties with me. Nothing special happened. Saturn is transiting my 8th house but what the heck?!

posted August 05, 2015 03:42 PM            

Please post your chart with natal and progressions, then another chart with natal and transits. We will find what's going on.

posted August 05, 2015 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Omg I'm sooo sorry!! I love you!

Please post your chart with natal and progressions, then another chart with natal and transits. We will find what's going on.

As far as asteroids for now just add Vertex, Pallas, Vesta, BM Lilith, Juno, Pholus....you know all those typical ones in the "additional" area on astro.com. I might have others for you add later...

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Haha oh man then you're probably the only one at the moment but thank you

Here's the chart with natal and progressions:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_25at_02_anonymous_201585.71208.18745.gif&res=100

And here with transits:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_24at_02_anonymous_201585.71671.17834.gif&res=100

EDIT: Damn, why aren't even the images working? Ugh today is NOT a good day..

posted August 05, 2015 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
CountablyInfinite, just save the chart images on your computer and upload them on imgur!

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Yes thank you athenaia! Usually posting chart images always worked

Here you go:
Natal + progessions

posted August 05, 2015 04:54 PM            

This is what it's like to grow older in life. People come and go, and the self-confidence we build up as children thanks to our great parents, is making unrealistic demands on our shoulders and will wear off once we become teenagers. And from then on it's all about rebuilding that self-confidence again, which craves for hard work and many experiences.

People who never suffered from this, got seriously easy charts, and they will suffer from laziness later in life and never get anywhere...
Some might will, and they'll also go far (probably much further than most, thanks to their upbringing, genes, society, stars and stuff)

posted August 05, 2015 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Welcome to reality lol.... no, but seriously.

This is what it's like to grow older in life. People come and go, and the self-confidence we build up as children thanks to our great parents, is making unrealistic demands on our shoulders and will wear off once we become teenagers. And from then on it's all about rebuilding that self-confidence again, which craves for hard work and many experiences.

People who never suffered from this, got seriously easy charts, and they will suffer from laziness later in life and never get anywhere...
Some might will, and they'll also go far (probably much further than most, thanks to their upbringing, genes, society, stars and stuff)

So, actually it's all about facing reality and being mature enough to handle the problems of life.

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posted August 05, 2015 05:23 PM            

Your Chiron is in your 4th, family relations bring up deep wounds.
Your IC(home/family) ruler is the moon, your moon is in 2nd house...emotional security is very valuable to you and it's merged with your 4th house, losing family world be devestating to you.
Your Sun opposes your Moon(side note, my NN/SN is on your Sun/Moon) your emotional needs for security through your family is in conflict with what you need to feel good about yourself. One part of you wants to break free while the other part needs them so badly. Are your parents divorced or at odds with each other regarding you? Maybe about giving you money or something?

Your Pluto is conjunct your Sun, but falls in 7th not 8th like your Sun.
Pluto will devestate your ego as it forces you to start thinking about life in a new way, forces you to stop needing others and learn to rely on yourself, being in the 7th shows it will do this through relationships.

posted August 05, 2015 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by CountablyInfinite:
Aha, thanks for the lesson. So you wanna tell me there was a point in your life you did not have one person in your life? I doubt that.
The things is NO ONE comes in my life, duh.

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I also have Pluto issues in my life, my Pluto squares my IC. Pluto is on my AC.

I, like you have had no one, my entire family and everyone I'd ever known turned their back on me when I left the "family" religion. I know what it feels like to have not one soul who loves you or accepts you. I've had ppl I've known all my life standing next to me in line at a grocery store, they won't even acknowledge my existence. It hurts so much, esp when it's your own family. Im sure your feeling a huge depth of pain and abondonment that you don't deserve.
I know what it feels like to wonder if you actually could, literally die from lonliness, a broken heart and never being touched or hugged or have someone care about you.
You hurt so much that when someone tries to reach out to you, you run out of fear. What if you get attached and grow to need them and then they leave to?? The thought is just to much to handle so it's easier to stay alone than to try to overcome the fear. You shy away from all human affection.

Your moon is hurt with that opposition to your Sun...emotionally you feel disconnected and lost.
My moon is unaspected in my 12th...same emotional disconnect and feeling of isolation due to not knowing how to fit in or know if ppl care about you.

posted August 05, 2015 09:27 PM            

CountablyInfinite, I really feel for you... wish I could give you a hug. I have known some Scorpio's in my life and I do wonder if this is a reoccurring theme.
One of my longest friends, who I met online at 14 is a Scorpio, who lives in an extremely remote region, a town called Resolute in Canada. It is the closest human habitation to the Arctic. She is of Inuit background and the population of this town is roughly 200 people. Some people never leave Resolute, whilst others like my friend save all there money to go on annual holidays if only to another part of Canada.
My friend has a fierce and stoic personality, she can come across insulting and often tells me she doesnt see many people as 'friends' and that most people annoy her. She is independent, and she's critical. She will say things to hurt your feelings because its 'true' and sometimes she actually enjoys a reaction.
I'm one of the 3 people she deems as a friend, but we have had an extremely rocky relationship. Periods of not talking, by her choice.
We've always made up and I've always accepted her whole heartedly back into my life because I see something beautiful in her personality. Despite the cold exterior she hides a real affection and loyalty. She's the type who tests you and she doesnt just accept anyone into her life. She'd rather be alone then have fake friends.
She's real and raw. But I do see how for other people who can't look past the exterior could find her rude, arrogant (she admits to arrogance) and cold.

I think Scorpio's do protect themselves, I also think there is a sense of pessimism in your perspective of other people. You don't trust them, so you test them to prove yourself right.

I think you will find someone out there that connects with you, the only advice I can give is...lower those pincers and show some vulnerability!

posted August 05, 2015 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by BeTrue77:
In addition to everything else that has been mentioned, you have been dealing with some difficult Saturn transits to both your Sun and Moon. Transiting Saturn conjunct your Sun and opposite your Moon will exacerbate any tendency you may have towards depression and loneliness. Having tSaturn in hard aspect to both your Sun and Moon simultaneously must be rough! No wonder you feel so desolate and isolated right now.

Please hang in there, be kind to yourself and know that this dark period will eventually pass! ((((( HUGS )))))

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posted August 06, 2015 02:07 AM            

If you let me to give you a piece of advice – from my personal experience of course – and BELIEVE me, I had really hard struggles around friendships, siblings, parents in last past 5 years! At one point it was so hard that I even wanted to end my life for good! Thankfully I discovered astrology and it helped me so much to understand myself, my actions, my feelings and my ‘mission’ in life.

So, my advice for you would it be that before you can actually be happy, you need to learn two things first; 1) to be patient and 2) not to judge the quality of your life (and maybe even self-worth, if this is also the case with you?) based on how many people you have in your life.

You need to be satisfied with yourself. This probably sounds so cliché to you, but trust me – for people with Venus/Saturn conjunction this is crucial! More than for anyone else! You will see/feel effect of this conjunction in next 3 to 5 years very strongly since your First Saturn return is about to come.

I believe that this is also what next to neptune tried to say, but maybe she wasn’t that clear to you or she didn’t choose the right words to say it.

However, maybe it also wouldn’t hurt if you read articles about natal Venus/Saturn conjunction. This can help you to understand yourself better, I think…

Glaub mir, alles wird gut sein, man muss nur geduldig sein, obwohl manchmal das sehr (oder sogar zu) schwer ist. Mach dir keine Sorgen. Wir sind in ‚demselben Schwimmbecken‘. Wir müssen nur richtig schwimmen lernen.

Vielleicht nur fürs Spaß – vor ein paar Tagen habe ich ein Zitat gelesen, das in dieser Zeit so geeignet für mich ist; „Viele Menschen schwimmen mit dem Strom, manche dagegen. Ich stehe mitten im Wald und finde den Fluss nicht.“