posted August 12, 2015 09:33 PM            

Of course. What concerns you is in the red boxes: horizontal to your left is the past, horizontal to the right, the future. The vertical is the current situation: above (you don't have any cards) is what you can't control, under, the situation you have the power to change.

I did a clarifier for the blue-boxed cards, which are the three cards above, which were pulled from the entire deck. Anyways, this is it (please save the picture if you want it for later):

The present: HEART, DOG, RING. This is lovely: you are either in a stable relationship full of love, loyalty, and respect, or a man is smitten with you to the point of considering you soulmate material.

The past: MOON. With only one card, I'd say that there is something about your reputation/fame/or creativity, though this can be good or bad. I decided to combine this with the future cards, because it seemed fit.

The future: GARDEN, COFFIN, MICE, TOWER, SHIP, STORK. Clarifier on the first 4 cards: BOOK, and again MICE, TOWER. Something is going on that hurts your public image. It probably started in the past, but it will get worst in the future. MICE + TOWER (twice!) can mean problems/loss with/from an authority or a state office. Alternatively, if there is nothing like this in your life, then one of your secrets will be revealed, causing you some form of personal loss (loss of reputation with your friends, social circle, etc) and leading to a period of loneliness. In the end you may be forced to take a trip that will bring change (even change your residence... or it could be a spiritual trip). Most likely, whatever will happen will force you to reevaluate your situation and adopt some changes.

posted August 12, 2015 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
Hi Gypsy!

Of course. What concerns you is in the red boxes: horizontal to your left is the past, horizontal to the right, the future. The vertical is the current situation: above (you don't have any cards) is what you can't control, under, the situation you have the power to change.

I did a clarifier for the blue-boxed cards, which are the three cards above, which were pulled from the entire deck. Anyways, this is it (please save the picture if you want it for later):

The present: HEART, DOG, RING. This is lovely: you are either in a stable relationship full of love, loyalty, and respect, or a man is smitten with you to the point of considering you soulmate material.

The past: MOON. With only one card, I'd say that there is something about your reputation/fame/or creativity, though this can be good or bad. I decided to combine this with the future cards, because it seemed fit.

The future: GARDEN, COFFIN, MICE, TOWER, SHIP, STORK. Clarifier on the first 4 cards: BOOK, and again MICE, TOWER. Something is going on that hurts your public image. It probably started in the past, but it will get worst in the future. MICE + TOWER (twice!) can mean problems/loss with/from an authority or a state office. Alternatively, if there is nothing like this in your life, then one of your secrets will be revealed, causing you some form of personal loss (loss of reputation with your friends, social circle, etc) and leading to a period of loneliness. In the end you may be forced to take a trip that will bring change (even change your residence... or it could be a spiritual trip). Most likely, whatever will happen will force you to reevaluate your situation and adopt some changes.

I hope this resonates. I don't need a reading right now, so no worries. Send me some good thoughts because I could use those.
Cheers!

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hahahaha

okay. I do have to ask this question. Do you think this man who shows up in the spread is related to the loss?

BECAUSE - the only thing I can think of (for now) is being fired from my job that I considered to be a dream job. I am a well known artist... and work as a designer and fine art photographer. My former boss and I had a thing for each other (could be the man you pick up) but he recently cut ties with me, but I don't necessarily think it's because he doesn't want to be with me - it's very complicated at the moment!

I do, do a lot of travel through my artwork whether it be to pursue a project, or to deliver artwork, etc. looking at possibly changing residence too soon.

But yes, I think I know why the Mice and Tower showed up twice, because there were two incidents that happened in the past that could have effected my reputation. The earlier one I don't have any control over whatsoever and actually it's two women who aren't doing me any good by acting this way and it's not doing them any good either keeping their distance from me. But at this moment in time, I have enough distance from them that it's not effecting me immediately.

posted August 12, 2015 10:00 PM            

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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
This man could be your boss--it's perfectly possible that he acts against his heart. I've seen it too many times. I'm a bit of a psychic and one thing I learned that way is that people change their opinion/thoughts from one week to another. This is the reason I think it's a bit pointless to ask "What X thinks about me?" because it's such a temporary thing. A person might want you very much right now, but by the next week he will change his mind. At least half of the people are fickle like that. And, yes, may others will ignore love, if their careers suffer from it. Sad but true.

First of all don't think at the loss in such drastic terms! It might be only the loss of a contract or a smaller part of your public. Do you work in such a strict environment that a relationship with your former boss would damage your career? I guess it's possible, but it sounds a bit extreme. I think it's quite relevant that I got MICE + TOWER twice, so I believe the problem will be with an institution rather than a person.

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Yeah. Especially since I've gotten plenty of cards for a positive future for us. I personally don't think it will damage my career but may cause a bit of a shock to some people. But I've been hearing it happen more and more in the work force so in today's standards I don't think it will be that damaging since we don't work together anymore and probably will not end up in the same industry, etc.

posted August 12, 2015 10:10 PM            

Maybe you will encounter more issues like those with the phony international contracts. It could be that there were two ideas in those 4 cards: 1) GARDEN + COFFIN = you'll lose some "friends" 2) MICE + TOWER = more losses from scammers (the clarifier will be for these cards in this case, with the meaning "once you expose the scanners, you'll lose a contract you counted on"). It's perfectly possible.

I could see you two ending up together. This man from the cards has fallen for you head over heels.

posted August 12, 2015 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
Yes, I think so too. As I first said, "Something is going on that hurts your public image," so don't jump to the worst case scenario.

Maybe you will encounter more issues like those with the phony international contracts. It could be that there were two ideas in those 4 cards: 1) GARDEN + COFFIN = you'll lose some "friends" 2) MICE + TOWER = more losses from scammers (the clarifier will be for these cards in this case, with the meaning "once you expose the scanners, you'll lose a contract you counted on"). It's perfectly possible.

I could see you two ending up together. This man from the cards has fallen for you head over heels.

Well, let me know how this turns out.
Good luck!

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UGH I hope I loose nothing more. But banks are notorious with phony checks, etc. I've blocked them, but I don't think I can expect anymore loss from them, but you never know when it comes to money!

posted August 13, 2015 01:01 AM            

I have hope.

posted August 13, 2015 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by gypsywander:
OH MY GOD
I was just re-reading this spread and this is SO on point with my relationship to my former boss. I can't believe that he came up twice as a soulmate but it definitely is pointing to issues in his life currently surrounding relationships and money being involved and how he has to free himself before he can be with me. Sigh.

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Are you reading across the MAN's row and column? If that's the case, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but that ex (SNAKE) isn't in his past, but still very much in his present. He hasn't made yet a decision about which way to go (which one of you to choose) AND he still has feelings for her (the HEART is also next to the SNAKE.) Clearly, he thinks (and feels) extremely highly of you and considers a permanent relationship with you, but his heart seems split between the two women in his life. He is worried about the consequences of his decision with respect to his social circle. In the future, he's waiting some news, which sadly will never come (the RIDER is blocked by the MOUNTAINS to the right and by the COFFIN above). FISH + LILY under the MOUNTAIN = either an established business or "old money" is what stops them. he will feel that his dreams are fulfilled, but not any time soon.

posted August 13, 2015 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
Gipsy, dear, what were you doing here so late? Don't kill yourself over a this. And it was my pleasure to read for you!

Are you reading across the MAN's row and column? If that's the case, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but that ex (SNAKE) isn't in his past, but still very much in his present. He hasn't made yet a decision about which way to go (which one of you to choose) AND he still has feelings for her. (The HEART is also next to the SNAKE.) Clearly, he thinks (and feels) extremely highly of you and considers a permanent relationship with you, but his heart seems split between the two women in his life. He is worried about the consequences of his decision with respect to his social circle. In the future, he's waiting some news, which sadly are blocked--they will never come (the RIDER is blocked by the MOUNTAINS to the right and by the COFFIN above). FISH + LILY under the MOUNTAIN = either an established business or "old money" is what stops them. he will feel that his dreams are fulfilled, but not any time soon.

Well, I hope this helps. I wish the best of luck to both of you!
SL ♡

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Yeah, he and his ex owns a business and on paper she owns more - but he carries out the decisions. Do you think he will pursue a relationship with me in the future? I just don't understand - if he thinks highly of me, that he cut ties with me and it hurts that he has acted like he cared and wanted something with me only to push me away when we aren't working anymore - it comes off as him just wanting me for my skills and doesn't care about me as an individual...

posted August 13, 2015 09:26 AM            

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Originally posted by gypsywander:
Yeah, he and his ex owns a business and on paper she owns more - but he carries out the decisions. Do you think he will pursue a relationship with me in the future? I just don't understand - if he thinks highly of me, that he cut ties with me and it hurts that he has acted like he cared and wanted something with me only to push me away when we aren't working anymore - it comes off as him just wanting me for my skills and doesn't care about me as an individual...

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posted August 13, 2015 03:37 PM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 13, 2015 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Nice of you to do a GT

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I'd be happy to do one for you, if you want. I usually go for such a spread if I need to understand a situation: someone else had a more complicated problem and it snowballed from there.

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I have a different method...I am curious as to why you use rev here??

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I was lazy! Usually I read only the cards corresponding to the row and the column of the quest card (which can be something else than MAN, WOMAN, depending on the question). From what I heard, this was how Mlle. Lenormand used to do it, but in truth, I just found that this format works for me. I think that those cards best reflect the situation. In this case, the reason I started to interpret the MAN's row and column was because Gipsy said that they resonated with her... and then things got a bit more tricky with this man who seems to have his heart split between two women. Anyways, since I wasn't planning to interpret the other cards, I didn't bother to turn them up. As I said, lazy. Sorry for the confusion.

posted August 13, 2015 04:32 PM            

I look at the fate line as being the major theme and sometimes the outcome for the question (for present time frame though, not the final outcome)

I also read the future as what the cards face; it makes no sense to me to see future behind what the court card is facing. I used your method in the beginning
Right now, I successfully use:
future: everything the card faces and moving towards the fate line, so for the lady, everything to her left and down (as diagonals, sometimes vertical too). Vertical usually shows present and pressing concerns.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 13, 2015 04:50 PM            

It does take a while, but if you want, just give me a shout over the weekend when I should be relatively free.

posted August 16, 2015 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
Hi LeeLoo!

It does take a while, but if you want, just give me a shout over the weekend when I should be relatively free.

I know what you mean about interpreting the cards towards the direction in which the person looks. The only reason I always use left-->right as timeline is because when I use the GT to determine the money situation for instance, the quest card is the FISH not the WOMAN. It becomes too complicated to read for some cards left--> right, for others right--> left, so I use only one direction. You'll have to teach me sometimes how to read the fate line. I don't even know how to find it.

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The fate line is the last row of 4 cards. You read it as a normal 4, using mirroring too, plus you use mirroring with the upper vertical cards, for more clues

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 16, 2015 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The fate line is the last row of 4 cards. You read it as a normal 4, using mirroring too, plus you use mirroring with the upper vertical cards, for more clues

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posted August 16, 2015 05:49 PM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 16, 2015 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In your GT here, it's Roads House Lily Tree You're welcome, SL

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It's quite amazing, because it fits so well with the rest of the spread: "the choice between two established/old partners in order to develop a family."

posted August 17, 2015 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
It's quite amazing, because it fits so well with the rest of the spread: "the choice between two established/old partners in order to develop a family."

SL

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala