posted November 09, 2015 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by msheart:
What is going to happen with my relationship with E? (soon is there any progress or anything to expect and know about?) or - if it makes it easier - "What is his next step to take in regards of our relationship.."

Thank You.

Lenormand.

PS. emailed photo sent.

Thank you

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Thank you msheart. You look cute together. I asked the cards, "What is E's next step to take in regards of your relationship." I've pulled out: Woman, Letter, Bear, Mice, and Snake.

posted November 09, 2015 02:36 AM            

Well money is always an issue to him, lol.
He recently spent a lot, lol... plus he is a breadwinner - so.. he is also the one paying for expense of his family.. since his dad already died few years back..

Though there is also someone in the scene.. so we're sort of with-holding things until that one is settled. :/ Though.. I kind of hope I could know.. what happens next tho :< (can you pull a few for any verification? thank you..)

Oh and unless he goes to a trip where I am - that is another problem of his .. lol..

Thank You

PS. HAHA Thank you on the photo, lol!

posted November 09, 2015 03:41 AM            

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Originally posted by msheart:
Thank You..

Well money is always an issue to him, lol.
He recently spent a lot, lol... plus he is a breadwinner - so.. he is also the one paying for expense of his family.. since his dad already died few years back..

Though there is also someone in the scene.. so we're sort of with-holding things until that one is settled. :/ Though.. I kind of hope I could know.. what happens next tho :< (can you pull a few for any verification? thank you..)

Oh and unless he goes to a trip where I am - that is another problem of his .. lol..

Thank You

PS. HAHA Thank you on the photo, lol!

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posted November 09, 2015 07:48 PM            

Okay, I asked for verification, "What will happen with E and msheart's relationship?"

Key, Stars, Owls (Birds)

This looks promising and hopefully I'm right. There's a little bad part. I'll throw that in somewhere.

It seems like you'll be together again, and will have a stronger, successful relationship. Regarding your relationship you will be a lot wiser. Both of you or one person will probably be nervous like it's the first time you dated (and that might actually happen because cards are telling me that your relationship will feel like a new beginning). It's likely that one of you (or both, who knows lol) will talk to more than one love interest.
Timing tells me everything might occur this month, at night, with phone call. December or January might be likely too because Mercury will be retrograde.

Please take this with a grain of salt though, cause I'm still a newbie at this.

posted November 09, 2015 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
@msheart

Okay, I asked for verification, "What will happen with E and msheart's relationship?"

Key, Stars, Owls (Birds)

This looks promising and hopefully I'm right. :) There's a little bad part. I'll throw that in somewhere.

It seems like you'll be together again, and will have a stronger, successful relationship. Regarding your relationship you will be a lot wiser. Both of you or one person will probably be nervous like it's the first time you dated (and that might actually happen because cards are telling me that your relationship will feel like a new beginning). It's likely that one of you (or both, who knows lol) will talk to more than one love interest.
Timing tells me everything might occur this month, at night, with phone call. December or January might be likely too because Mercury will be retrograde.

Please take this with a grain of salt though, cause I'm still a newbie at this. :D

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Thank you - that was a bit of a relief on my part, lol!

Oh (just like to mentioned to you that the Owl and Birds in Lenormand has different interpretations now since Owl is really not like a bird who tends to flutter and flies - it's a more staying type or so some people have taught me lol I kind of figured you had this interpretation due to the birds card lol)

I think what you said made sense (with the star there - we are in a long distance relationship right now - but would plan to meet maybe soon idk yet - but it would made sense if we are talking online, etc with the stars and owl there possibly lol)

Though - it seems the Sum is a Snake.
Idk I usually pattern it as (sum+middle card) how do you do it, haha!

So I think - there could be someone making things a bit hard for us - which was predicted by someone already though it wouldn't be much of a problem - is still a headache to me lol.

On another's perspective =)) it can mean psychic lol HAHA!

Thank You :) I appreciate it. :)

posted November 09, 2015 10:56 PM            

I honestly never did a sum of all the cards I pull out.
I never used verifiers either because usually everything makes sense after 5 cards.
In case I do sum, I would use the method to sum all of it, and if the sum is greater than 36, I sum the two digits or subtract from 36. If it's less than 36 I just go to the card that has the number.

So if I add the first five cards I pulled, I get 32. Which would be the Moon. There might be some emotional cheating involved.. Or in a better light, he's fond of you.

If I add the 3 cards, that would be 21 Mountain.
There is a test of love here. That makes sense because of the other person being involved.

If I add every single card I pulled out for you,
I get 53. Coffin...... OR Stork. I don't think coffin applies to the future but the present.
It makes sense because right now your relationship is going through a pause, and coffin says that.
Stork seems like the future and it tells me your relationship will progress positively.
Maybe you'll get to live closer together.
But then again stork could mean the present saying you need some time apart in order for a positive change to happen(which you're probably doing right now right?)

posted November 10, 2015 03:13 AM            

Sorry Question: What do you mean 5 cards - I thought you only pulled 3, lol.

Isn't Key is 33
Stars is 16
Owl/Birds is 12
= 61? lol.

I'm curious on how you got 21.

(or maybe the cards weren't just mentioned earlier which is why I misunderstood, lo1)

Haha. Well.. recently I had the same predictions to almost all psychics I went to... lol... that would make sense if it does pan out, lol..

posted November 10, 2015 03:48 PM            

So, let me begin...
The 1. one you got right - I am the most pickiest lady I know. I haven't had a serious relationships for 8 years already. Not because I like to sleep around, but because it is quality over quantity with me here..

The 2. one is interesting.. About WAY TOO MUCH concentrating on this topic is totally my biggest issue.. but I just can't let it go. ;D I guess I need to throw myself into different activities for now.. ah.
But one more thing that I was thinking that is my problem.. I have way too much of a masculine energy in me. I was thinking that maybe this card could also say that I need to become more feminine and caring etc??? Just embrace the feminine in me? Because of course - non of the man would like another guy sleeping in his bed next to him.

But I didn't understand this part you said: "It's also telling me not to take things for granted; don't overlook things and think everything is fine when actually it probably won't and you'll find yourself in a difficult situation." ?

posted November 10, 2015 05:41 PM            

Sorry bout the confusion. I knew when I started this thread, it would turn into a lesson eventually. haha

What I meant about the 5 cards is when I read for this question, "What is E's next step to take in regards of your relationship?"

I forgot to mention that I only add the court numbers, not the sequence the cards go by. For example the woman's sequence number 29 in the deck, but its court is Ace, which is 1. Another example is Rider being sequence number 1, but its court is 9 of Hearts. After summing all the courts, the sum shows the sequence number.
1 Ace(Woman)+9 Hearts(Rider)= 10 Scythe

So that's how I got:
Key: 8 of diamonds
Star: 6 of hearts
Owls/Birds: 7 of diamonds
= 21 Mountain

Your method makes sense too.
If you want to subtract 61 from the total of cards I have (36),
the sum would be 25 Ring, too.
So there is two sums, Snake and Ring.
Usually when there's two sums you can just pick the card you prefer over the other.

Seems like there's lots of possibilities how this pans out,
but at least most of it is positive.

posted November 10, 2015 05:58 PM            

"..not to take things for granted;
don't overlook things and think everything
is fine when actually it probably won't and
you'll find yourself in a difficult situation"

Sorry for the confusion, I should have stopped at
"not to take things for granted."

Just don't take things for granted, was all I meant.

I'm glad this spread resonated with you!

posted November 10, 2015 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
@msheart

Sorry bout the confusion. I knew when I started this thread, it would turn into a lesson eventually. haha

What I meant about the 5 cards is when I read for this question, "What is E's next step to take in regards of your relationship?"

I forgot to mention that I only add the court numbers, not the sequence the cards go by. For example the woman's sequence number 29 in the deck, but its court is Ace, which is 1. Another example is Rider being sequence number 1, but its court is 9 of Hearts. After summing all the courts, the sum shows the sequence number.
1 Ace(Woman)+9 Hearts(Rider)= 10 Scythe

So that's how I got:
Key: 8 of diamonds
Star: 6 of hearts
Owls/Birds: 7 of diamonds
= 21 Mountain

Your method makes sense too.
If you want to subtract 61 from the total of cards I have (36),
the sum would be 25 Ring, too.
So there is two sums, Snake and Ring.
Usually when there's two sums you can just pick the card you prefer over the other.

Seems like there's lots of possibilities how this pans out,
but at least most of it is positive.

Hey, I'm willing to study more though! lol

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Yes. To be honest - most of the things you said - I didn't understand because it made it seem that the way I read lennies is a bit different from yours which is why I called your attention (because sometimes when the cards are mentioned - I try to understand it on my own as well)

I was thinking earlier... lenormand... is always 36 cards right LOL) Do you think - the Snake and Ring can be possible advice to take lol...

That to push through with this - the woman has to be strongly. - likes being involved instead of pushing into the passive manner and not doing anything allowing block to takes its course - seduction mode =)) lol Yknow the positive side of the Snake (most people see only the negative side lol) but for example.. in Career things - Snake isn't always betrayal - but she knows how to get pass troubles to get to the top as - she is manipulative - calculating on what she wants to achieve - though in another sense this could be scary depending on the question as well (betraya, etc)

Or it could be *Not applying too much of what Snake is* but try to open yourself and get involved with the person - to create a strong bond (ring) in the relationship.

The reason why I mentioned this - because I ended up with a Snake. and you Ended up with a Ring.. so I can thinking of what possible meaning that could imply...

Funny - from discussing I forgot my question I had to look back what I asked, lol..

Actually - I don't have any idea how you got the Sun Card, lol.

What I did is (every lennies has its number right Rider, 1, Clover 2, etc) - I added the 3 cards you mentioned. calculate it in away that it fits (within 36 cards) the result was 7 which is Snake - so I have no idea where the Sun came lol.

(tho usually what I do is to get more insight I look at the last card of the deck and what is on top - most of the time it make sense lol for more details)

Sometimes to see a bit more what I do is
count the 3 cards all together (+ the last card of the deck, the number is has because the last card of the deck was considered as a shadow.. which you can partner with the middle card for insight so idk what is was lol)

getting all 4 calculated = what the result is.. I would use it to partner to the middle card again.

Yes sooo true.. )) hahaha! So nice to learn - is your method called something that I don't know about?

I was studying back on predicting timing as well - ofr some reason the way I do it is different from other people lol. idk )) but for me mine always made sense and when they try to do it - for some reason it doesnt make sense on my part lol

posted November 10, 2015 10:05 PM            

I agree that the way we do lenormand is totally different.
Somehow despite our differences we get answers that makes sense!

yeah you're right, lenormand has 36 cards.
I'm on the same page as you, I would consider listening to both snake and ring too.
Choosing one over the other is like shunning away what the cards are trying to tell you.
I think I'll do your method. I think your method is much better and less complicated than mine. lol

In my deck, I actually have two snakes--a good and bad.
Unfortunately I pulled out the bad snake on your first question,
"What is E's next step to take in regards of your relationship?".
I almost forgot that the bad snake is not completely bad.
It could mean doing anything it takes to protect your relationship.
Still don't like this card though because it seems so undignified.

I didn't get the Sun card, I got the Moon card.
I got the Moon card from summing the court numbers from the 5 cards I pulled out for
"What is E's next step to take in regards of your relationship?".

I really don't know what the method is called. I self-taught myself by reading a lenormand oracle handbook.

I'd love to know how you predict timing. I've predicted timing before,
but not sure if the timing is right cause I'm yet to get feedback from others.

posted November 11, 2015 03:32 AM            

What is your deck? I didn't know any deck that has 2 snakes, haha! Lemmeee see how it looked like (the bad one lol) Haha! Even in lenormand groups I know of - they always see "snake" as something bad.. but idk.. I mean when you read books (everyone focuses on the bad side - ignoring the other description that it says lol) So I feel - depending on my intuition/feeling is also included, lol!

I took a good look again to the things you said (didn't understand how but).

Woman + Rider + Scythe (didnt know how this came to be but I tried to interpret it again anyway. *is this the question on E's next step? - LOL I KNOW IM CONFUSING I JUST DIDNT KNOW WHICH QUESTION AND CARDS ARE WHICH LOL!!!"

29 + 1 + 10 = 40 = 4+0 = 4 = House
House + Rider = (someone coming in / something you are waiting for comes - or whatever, lol)
Woman + Rider = a woman taking action / or arriving
Rider + Scythe = something sudden / immediately
Woman + Scythe = being decisive, determined

(is this a sample? or you took the cards - since I didn't get it the question is a HE but the cards seems a SHE?

Key Star Owl = 7(Snake) / 21(Mountain)

(Snake + Star) = something difficult to do / challenging
(Mountain + Star) = improvement happens depending on determination and effort (if none is done - it notes of lack of motivation to act upon it

(Moon + Starts) = fantasy, dreaming - using intuition night time..desires and emotions lingering, etc.

Trying to read the last part of message and I was like - okay never mind i didn't get where the Moon came from =))))))

Haha! It is.. a bit different and I usually don't do timings as it still varies - i just like the idea of looking into it haha! I can tell you how - give a timing question that I can work on so I can give you sample n timing predictions that I do)

posted November 11, 2015 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
Hello Adimi! Ah, thank you for posting a picture. This helps a lot!

I was going to ask the cards the second part of your question instead of the first, but I was curious to how the first one will be like, and I'm glad I did.

For the 1st part I pulled out: Snake, Tower, Dog, Cat (I'm using the modern lenormand decks. Previous decks don't have cat in there), and Bird.

The cards are saying yes, but delving deeper and reading into each card and combining them as a cohesive unit to get a summary, I personally don't think it's a yes because snake and tower are negative cards. I think maybe on the surface of your relationship it seems committed to one of you but someone might be hiding something.

In sum, yes, but be careful!

Second part of the question I got: Woman, Garden, Ship, Fish, Heart

Really like this one better. This tells me you will be with someone you will be in love with. Either you will meet on a cruise, bank, on a trip.

The answer is yes.

Really will look forward to how this turn out.

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Thank you so much Einfühlung! Let's see how it turns out... Do you think the "hidden" part that you picked up could be due to us being secretly involved with each other for now?

The idea of falling in love with someone else and being in a relationship with them is very appealing to me though, because I can see that the path with P. would be a much more difficult one and not always very healthy emotional-wise.

posted November 11, 2015 07:35 PM            

My deck is the Celtic Lenormand. It's a beautiful deck. It came out last year I believe.
Plus it was created by a triple Gemini so you can sort of see why there are 2 or 3 more alternate versions of some cards.
I don't mind it at all. In fact I like it a lot due to me being a Gemini ASC and Venus.
If you google "Celtic Lenormand Snake" you can see an image of it.
There is a snake shedding(good) and there's a snake that's facing you with piercing red eyes(bad).

And the woman + rider is just an example! They were not for your questions!

Okay I think I have a good timing question in mind:
When will I get called back to work?

My boss decided to not let me work last week because work has been slow.
Not working made things pretty dull. I sort of don't know what to do anymore because I'm so used to working.
And I need money! Without using the cards I can kind of guess when I will get back to work,
but I want to see your answer. It would be interesting if our answers turn out the same.

posted November 11, 2015 07:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Adimi:
Thank you so much Einfühlung! Let's see how it turns out... Do you think the "hidden" part that you picked up could be due to us being secretly involved with each other for now?

The idea of falling in love with someone else and being in a relationship with them is very appealing to me though, because I can see that the path with P. would be a much more difficult one and not always very healthy emotional-wise.

I'll let you know as things unfold

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Oh? You're being secretly involved? That changes this reading a bit! Yes, it could be due to you both being secretly involved. But why so secret? I don't want to assume anything.

posted November 12, 2015 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
Oh? You're being secretly involved? That changes this reading a bit! Yes, it could be due to you both being secretly involved. But why so secret? I don't want to assume anything.

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posted November 14, 2015 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Adimi:
Because at the time that we expressed our "pull" towards each other, our best friends were in love with us and it was just a way too messed up situation... So we decided to keep things between us. Some time has passed and I believe now it would be ok to "come out", so to speak, but this is just the way that everything evolved, I guess... Us being secretly involved. We'll see how it goes.

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Ah yes, that's a hard situation.... That's very nice of you to consider their feelings.
It was probably tough for you to make that decision, huh?

And now you're just "stuck" in the secret. .

posted November 14, 2015 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
Ah yes, that's a hard situation.... That's very nice of you to consider their feelings.
It was probably tough for you to make that decision, huh?

And now you're just "stuck" in the secret. .

yeah let's see how this goes.

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Oh yes, when it all began it was very hard on me... For the both of us, actually. It may sound excessive, but it was honestly one of the most difficult decisions I've had to make so far.