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ILovePoems
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posted March 06, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering.. Do you want to exchange?

Ive kinda been wanting to ask for months now but I was scared.. But I saw Lily tagged you soo I thought maybe we can exchange, if you want?

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posted March 06, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd love to exchange ILP I haven't been around LL much lately so your timing is perfect.

What's your question?

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posted March 06, 2016 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does E.W. want to help me so much? Today he said that I should let go of the past.. But its hard to let go. :/ he some how knew I was hurt from something..

Whats your question?

If you want me to use guidance I would love to practice on that. For lenormand... I cant say I'm too good with that but tarot is the best for me.

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posted March 06, 2016 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Why does E.W. want to help me so much? Today he said that I should let go of the past.. But its hard to let go. :/ he some how knew I was hurt from something..

Whats your question?

If you want me to use guidance I would love to practice on that. For lenormand... I cant say I'm too good with that but tarot is the best for me.


I'm getting ready to do your reading tonight. Are you interested in just understanding his motivations behind helping you out or do you want to know more about your connection overall? Just want to be sure I ask the right question

I prefer Tarot readings actually, so that works for me Hmmm, can I ask what I would be inviting into my life by being more involved with A? Both positive and negative. Let me know if you'd like me to change my question if it's too vague for you.

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posted March 06, 2016 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

Just the motivates

I'll do your reading right now.. But I will have to let you know that sometimes the cards can pick up on whats going on and so on. So I hope I can actually answer your full question.

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posted March 06, 2016 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked what would happen if you be more involved with A.

In general, I think you're the type to make others feel comfortable and to make people feel homey. You could make him feel like things are stable and secure. So I could say that you generous with your surroundings and being friendly to people. The next card here tells me that someone is may be worried or thinking of what's going to happen. I think this card is talking about you and wanting to know what's going to happen if you do get involved with A more. This card doesn't always have to be about you worrying alot, but could be having this fear deep down. Could be that you thought about it alot as well and the card pops up lol. The next card tells me that you and A are friends or want to be friends? All I know is that in this card, I think you two are friends or wanting to be friends and just being around eachother. There is a feeling that you two trust and tell eachother things.. but then I get the feeling that you two don't always tell eachother things..so like half and half. The last card I have tells me that now or later that someone won't be very happy in the end. It could be that someone is depressed deep down or someone is doing alot of work to make things happen and that's not very good to see. This person could be having a hard time and they feel like they are trying too hard. I'm not sure what these cards are telling me completely, but it looks like someone is not very happy or will not be very happy. There is also a sign of fear here too.. if that's right.

Does any of this make sense? If not, I would like to try a spread for this..

Queen of Pentacles - 9 of swords - 3 of cups - 10 of wands

I decided to pull Guidance cards as well because it might actually make sense.

The card I pulled is Elij

This card is about Subtlety, Gracefulness, Femininity.

Eilid brings us the gentleness and gaces of the feminine principle. Look beyond the material world and listen for an invitation from the Otherworld, from Faery.

The next card I pulled is Boar.

This card is about The warrior Spirit, Leadership, and Direction.

Torc can open you to the warrior spirit, and help you to find your direction in life. You will discover Boar is a representative of the Goddess-- he can heal you, inspire you, and his primal power can make you leader or chief.

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posted March 06, 2016 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok cool - thanks for the clarification. I asked the cards: what are E.W's motives for helping you and what outcome does he hope to achieve by doing so?

7 of Cups RX, Hanged Man RX, The Hermit

A powerful set of cards here. I think E.W. is moving into a new phase of personal awareness and self-discovery, but he may be resisting this unconsciously or he may not be ready to embrace the necessary self-reflection needed to get himself there. Is he asking you to let go of past hurts between you two? Or is his advice something unrelated to your relationship/friendship? The reason I ask is because these cards speak strongly of an internal desire to delay or redirect some kind of decision or evaluation of goals/purpose. I also see a sense of "giving up" in a way...of taking the easy way out and of isolating himself. Not sure if that's relevant here but I thought I'd mention it.

I don't know that, based on these cards, I can say that E.W. is even fully aware of why he wants to help you - honestly, I'm seeing that perhaps he isn't even aware that he is helping you. I see stagnation in these cards due to an inability to face deeper, unresolved emotions - perhaps due to an inability to let go of illusions of identity. Basically, I think that there may be a need for him to be right about something related to the situation, to show some level of superiority here - not in a bad way, but in a way that makes him feel as though he has the internal power to overcome some kind of struggle he is facing now. What I am seeing is that perhaps he is misdirecting his energy from himself onto others...possibly onto you. My feeling is that, perhaps in giving you that advice, he recognized the same struggle within you and felt that if he helped you he could avoid helping himself...if that makes sense.

Please let me know if any of that resonated. Without really understanding the situation, I'm wondering if E.W. is trying to bow out of a situation and run away from a challenging emotional situation for him rather than facing it. A very interesting spread and a very puzzling reading for me - feedback would definitely be appreciated lol.

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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
I'll do your reading right now.. But I will have to let you know that sometimes the cards can pick up on whats going on and so on. So I hope I can actually answer your full question.

No problem! I've been working with the Tarot long enough to understand that the cards often direct your focus where necessary Sometimes we aren't meant to know what we are seeking. I'm open to whatever they have to say about my question.

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posted March 06, 2016 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh man.. I don't really know for sure.. I'm confused myself lol

Well the help is unrelated to me. I've been sad for a long time now because I care about someone very much but he won't give me a chance. It really kinda scarred me for a long time and this depression really took over my life. For some reason he knew I was sad and he told me to just forget him but it's hard to just give up on someone.. to forget someone, y'know? Would that make any sense with the reading?

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posted March 06, 2016 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, this is weird.. I had to reread the reading cause it kinda make sense..

There is this one guy that he used to be friends with.. they ended up getting into a fight and they never became friends again. They never tried to talk it out.. just tried to ignore eachother. People said he always talked about him and missed him alot. But didn't talk to him still. May be this is why he seemed he wanted to help me? He never got a chance to talk it out with his friend.. that's all I can think of. would that make sense? o:

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posted March 06, 2016 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Oh man.. I don't really know for sure.. I'm confused myself lol

Well the help is unrelated to me. I've been sad for a long time now because I care about someone very much but he won't give me a chance. It really kinda scarred me for a long time and this depression really took over my life. For some reason he knew I was sad and he told me to just forget him but it's hard to just give up on someone.. to forget someone, y'know? Would that make any sense with the reading?


This makes perfect sense actually. In that case, I would highlight "My feeling is that, perhaps in giving you that advice, he recognized the same struggle within you...". I think these cards are speaking to you rather than about E.W.'s current state. I believe E.W. is trying to encourage you to face a hard emotional truth. I think he has an intuitive understanding of what is going on with you possibly because he has experienced a similar situation and according to this spread his motivation in helping you is to empower you to get out of this period of stagnation by encouraging you to let go of that which does not serve you. It seems to me E.W. has the best intentions and is here to move you along your own path to self-discovery. The Hanged Man being reversed and of a higher number in the Major Arcana than the Hermit speaks of a need to go back to square one. This is a learning process, but a very important one and I think your friend's hope is to help heal you by guiding you toward that process.

As a side note, I understand what you mean about it being hard to forget someone or something. I don't think E.W. or anyone else who encourages you to let go of this experience expect you to wipe away the past from your memory and continue on as though it never happened. Experiences irrevocably change us and our past will always be part of our present. I think what they are encouraging you to do is to let go of all that keeps you tied to that experience. It is very common for us to mourn what we never had/cannot have without realizing that without experiencing it firsthand all we are experiencing is our projection of it rather than what it truly is. Illusions, feelings of failure/defeat/loss, delusions, self-doubt are what I think your friend is hoping to help you let go of.

I think the Hermit is an important card for you at this time. Maybe sit with it and meditate on its message. Finding yourself again/that light within yourself/your connection to spirit and intuition are important things to help you move past this phase and move on to the next step in your soul journey

I hope that makes sense and was helpful. Please let me know.

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posted March 06, 2016 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
I asked what would happen if you be more involved with A.

In general, I think you're the type to make others feel comfortable and to make people feel homey. You could make him feel like things are stable and secure. So I could say that you generous with your surroundings and being friendly to people. The next card here tells me that someone is may be worried or thinking of what's going to happen. I think this card is talking about you and wanting to know what's going to happen if you do get involved with A more. This card doesn't always have to be about you worrying alot, but could be having this fear deep down. Could be that you thought about it alot as well and the card pops up lol. The next card tells me that you and A are friends or want to be friends? All I know is that in this card, I think you two are friends or wanting to be friends and just being around eachother. There is a feeling that you two trust and tell eachother things.. but then I get the feeling that you two don't always tell eachother things..so like half and half. The last card I have tells me that now or later that someone won't be very happy in the end. It could be that someone is depressed deep down or someone is doing alot of work to make things happen and that's not very good to see. This person could be having a hard time and they feel like they are trying too hard. I'm not sure what these cards are telling me completely, but it looks like someone is not very happy or will not be very happy. There is also a sign of fear here too.. if that's right.

Does any of this make sense? If not, I would like to try a spread for this..

Queen of Pentacles - 9 of swords - 3 of cups - 10 of wands


Thanks so much ILP! This does make sense actually. He and I are friends but both have strong feelings toward each other - we have sort of ghosted in and out of each other's lives for the past few years. It's a complicated situation and I have stressed and worried about it since day 1 because of all the complications, lol. There is also a deep fear that we both have about our connection - fear of rejection, fear of making a mistake, fear of alienation...like I said, it's very complicated but I feel you have picked up on that well.

Spot on about being open with each other but not really - there is a strong sense of communication but also fear about telling each other everything. There isn't flat out deception to my knowledge, but we are more slow to share things with each other.

Interesting to see the 10 of Wands - I do believe this makes sense. It would be a lot of work to maintain consistent relations with each other and I do fear it may be too much somewhere down the line

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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
I decided to pull Guidance cards as well because it might actually make sense.

The card I pulled is Elij

This card is about Subtlety, Gracefulness, Femininity.

Eilid brings us the gentleness and gaces of the feminine principle. Look beyond the material world and listen for an invitation from the Otherworld, from Faery.

The next card I pulled is Boar.

This card is about The warrior Spirit, Leadership, and Direction.

Torc can open you to the warrior spirit, and help you to find your direction in life. You will discover Boar is a representative of the Goddess-- he can heal you, inspire you, and his primal power can make you leader or chief.


Thank you for the extra cards! I guess I'm a little confused as to their message. Are they guiding me to take charge of the situation or to find strength in femininity and a more passive role.

Thanks so much ILP

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posted March 06, 2016 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the feedback.. I don't know if what you asked is for the future to see what happens.. :/ But I hope everything goes well for you.

May I ask, just from the cards, do you think he cares as well? Like is that another reason why he's trying to help?

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posted March 06, 2016 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he cares, yes, but with the Hermit as the desired outcome in this spread I don't think he has any "ulterior motive" other than to encourage you out of your funk. I don't see a desire for romance in these cards at this time but perhaps somewhere in the future something could develop.

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posted March 06, 2016 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no no, nothing romantic lol 😁 I'm just glad he is trying to help thank you so much for the exchange

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posted March 06, 2016 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, np! Thank you! It was fun

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posted March 07, 2016 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
hmm, this is weird.. I had to reread the reading cause it kinda make sense..

There is this one guy that he used to be friends with.. they ended up getting into a fight and they never became friends again. They never tried to talk it out.. just tried to ignore eachother. People said he always talked about him and missed him alot. But didn't talk to him still. May be this is why he seemed he wanted to help me? He never got a chance to talk it out with his friend.. that's all I can think of. would that make sense? o:


But how about this one as well? o: Does this still kinda goes with what the reading Is saying too?

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posted March 08, 2016 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe but I don't feel it relates to his motivation for helping you, or at least is not a strong factor.

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