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NYCdodger
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posted March 15, 2016 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Took another trip down memory lane about a girl I used to speak to (yes another one, bear with me I have a long list)

But being that I'm terrible when it comes to relationships our affair was short. We were interested, she wanted to be with me, but i wanted to focus on "getting to know her more"..She felt like I wasn't really interested in her as well as confusing so she stopped talking to me. But we would always laugh and joke when we were together at a party or at work.

Even her friends look at me in a certain way (she told me that she talked to them about me. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing though let me know ladies).. ALOT of guys pursue her but she doesn't give them the time of day, but she pursued me often.

I asked a few questions because i was bored.

1) "How did she see me"?

The Star, 5 of wands, 7 of pents

2) What were her feelings towards me

2 of swords, 6 of wands, page of wands

3) Was/IS she one of my soulmates?

Empress, King Of Pents, The Lovers


Never got a combo like that before. Can anyone give insight on what a combo like that would entail? Especially the major cards

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posted March 15, 2016 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Empress
King of Pents
Lovers,
All excellent cards. I dont know if this means you guys are soulmates, but there is clearly a strong bond between the two of you that you should persue. These are all excellent cards in regards to moving towards being together or a relationship.

Could you do a reading for me?

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posted March 15, 2016 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for the response...sure what is your question

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posted March 15, 2016 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NYCdodger:
thanks for the response...sure what is your question

I was upset with the guy I was seeing for taking 10 hours to get back to me via text.

So I gave him an ultimatum.
We remain intimate, date, and we not see other people.
He replied back, he doesn't know what to say and we should talk later.

Its been 2 days, and I am ok with leaving the ball in his court and letting him contact me when he is ready.

I'm wondering what will happen?

TY

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posted March 15, 2016 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NYCdodger:

1) "How did she see me"?

The Star, 5 of wands, 7 of pents

2) What were her feelings towards me

2 of swords, 6 of wands, page of wands

3) Was/IS she one of my soulmates?

Empress, King Of Pents, The Lovers


Never got a combo like that before. Can anyone give insight on what a combo like that would entail? Especially the major cards


Dang NYC I'm always drawn to your threads! You've lived a storied life so far so I know they're always going to be interesting lol

I learned this little thing recently called "quints", where you add up all the numbers in your spread and equate them to the major arcana for better clarification

So for question number one:
Star: 17, 5, 7 = 29, 2+9 = 11
Number 11: Justice as a clarifier
She saw you as a fair and balanced person (perfect since this card represents Libra) who could be a little distant at times, but always respected you

Question number two:
2 + 6 = 8
Number 8: Strength as a clarifier
Her feelings: In the Thoth deck this card is known as "lust" weirdly enough so obviously she found you pretty darn attractive, maybe you also had the ability to make her laugh and disarm her because she didn't expect it?

Question number three:
Empress: 3 + The Lovers: 6
Numer 9: The Hermit as a clarifier
Soulmates: It was probably a really karmic relationship that made her turn inward a lot when it was over. It left a lasting impression on her, maybe was a pivotal experience, but she feels kind of quiet about it and may not like to speak of it often

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posted March 15, 2016 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Saille:
I was upset with the guy I was seeing for taking 10 hours to get back to me via text.

So I gave him an ultimatum.
We remain intimate, date, and we not see other people.
He replied back, he doesn't know what to say and we should talk later.

Its been 2 days, and I am ok with leaving the ball in his court and letting him contact me when he is ready.

I'm wondering what will happen?

TY


I asked "Will her contact her back" and I got 6 of wands clarified by the empress.

I asked "what will happen between them" and i got...

Justice clarified by King of Wands

Okay, heres my take on it. Did you give him an ultimatum because you didn't like the fact that he didn't respond back in 10 hours? What was the reason he couldn't get back to you?

6 of wands is telling me yes, he'll get back to you. But the Justice card is telling me that something unfair is going on.

P.S You shouldn't give ultimatums. They don't work!

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posted March 15, 2016 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenaia:
Dang NYC I'm always drawn to your threads! You've lived a storied life so far so I know they're always going to be interesting lol

I learned this little thing recently called "quints", where you add up all the numbers in your spread and equate them to the major arcana for better clarification

So for question number one:
Star: 17, 5, 7 = 29, 2+9 = 11
Number 11: Justice as a clarifier
She saw you as a fair and balanced person (perfect since this card represents Libra) who could be a little distant at times, but always respected you

Question number two:
2 + 6 = 8
Number 8: Strength as a clarifier
Her feelings: In the Thoth deck this card is known as "lust" weirdly enough so obviously she found you pretty darn attractive, maybe you also had the ability to make her laugh and disarm her because she didn't expect it?

Question number three:
Empress: 3 + The Lovers: 6
Numer 9: The Hermit as a clarifier
Soulmates: It was probably a really karmic relationship that made her turn inward a lot when it was over. It left a lasting impression on her, maybe was a pivotal experience, but she feels kind of quiet about it and may not like to speak of it often


Lol funny because her Sun is in Libra and her life path is 11. All of these seem pretty accurate. I remembered when she introduced me to her friends. She said "hey this was the guy I was telling you about". They all smiled and gave me a handshake.

I felt awkward though. Is it a good thing when females talk to their friends about other males? lol

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posted March 15, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I asked "Will her contact her back" and I got 6 of wands clarified by the empress.

I asked "what will happen between them" and i got...

Justice clarified by King of Wands

Okay, heres my take on it. Did you give him an ultimatum because you didn't like the fact that he didn't respond back in 10 hours? What was the reason he couldn't get back to you?

6 of wands is telling me yes, he'll get back to you. But the Justice card is telling me that something unfair is going on.

P.S You shouldn't give ultimatums. They don't work!


TY. I just didnt want to continue to go through what was happening without him being honest.

But the waiting 10 hours to text me was what upset me. We obviously had heated words, and I told him thats what I wanted to do...not something he had to do...but would like it if he did.

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posted March 15, 2016 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saille:
TY. I just didnt want to continue to go through what was happening without him being honest.

But the waiting 10 hours to text me was what upset me. We obviously had heated words, and I told him thats what I wanted to do...not something he had to do...but would like it if he did.


No prob. Try working it out. Hopefully it works out

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posted March 15, 2016 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this an exchange? o:

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posted March 15, 2016 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol no. I wanted info on my original post. But if you interpret then I'll help you out. You always do

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posted March 15, 2016 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well to start off

The Lovers mostly indicate a connection if the question doesn't really talk about a choice to make. So it does talk about a soulmate connection right there.

Now for the Empress.. hmm now that card could talk about a physical connection to someone.. but I think another way to say this card is that someone was a mother or was very nurturing.. a sense of being protective. Could be a sense of needing something.

For the King of Pentacles.. I can't really connect this to the lovers.. it's not a soulmate card, but it could talk about a person from a past life. If you believe in that. A man that is confident in his self and is comfortable with what he does. He could be a very hard worker and loyal to his friends. That takes things slow.

Does this help any? I doubt it, but thats all I get lol

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posted March 15, 2016 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 15, 2016 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Well to start off

The Lovers mostly indicate a connection if the question doesn't really talk about a choice to make. So it does talk about a soulmate connection right there.

Now for the Empress.. hmm now that card could talk about a physical connection to someone.. but I think another way to say this card is that someone was a mother or was very nurturing.. a sense of being protective. Could be a sense of needing something.

For the King of Pentacles.. I can't really connect this to the lovers.. it's not a soulmate card, but it could talk about a person from a past life. If you believe in that. A man that is confident in his self and is comfortable with what he does. He could be a very hard worker and loyal to his friends. That takes things slow.

Does this help any? I doubt it, but thats all I get lol


Yeah, the Empress and KOP was what i was trying to figure out. The spread is about the connection itself so it neither describes her or me in an individual sense. I see a strong, stable connection though. Im just trying to figure out if the spread is saying ye/no or maybe to my direct question. Once I drew the cards it was like a flash of YES that sparked..

Whats your question?

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posted March 15, 2016 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
:/

May be she was a Goddess and you was a Rich man.. when I see those type of cards, I just see people mostly.

Um, I want to know is E.W. frustrated with our communication?

If that's okay with you.

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posted March 15, 2016 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
:/

May be she was a Goddess and you was a Rich man.. when I see those type of cards, I just see people mostly.

Um, I want to know is E.W. frustrated with our communication?

If that's okay with you.



9 of swords
the tower
3 of swords

I would have to say unfortunately yes. Sorry

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posted March 15, 2016 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:

9 of swords
the tower
3 of swords

I would have to say unfortunately yes. Sorry


No need. I'm frustrated as well.. I wish I had help with this, but anyway I hope someone helps you with this.

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posted March 15, 2016 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
No need. I'm frustrated as well.. I wish I had help with this, but anyway I hope someone helps you with this.

What is your solution to the problem you're facing?

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posted March 15, 2016 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the solution is to find a way to not having blockages and obstacles in the way of our communication.

We are far away and communication is stuck, but then again he still makes me happy in a way.

I hate to say it but I kept getting alot of readings on this same person ( but not the communication), for some reason I think this person actually trust me, somehow he feels comfortable about me talking to him.

Sorry for the long story lol 😁

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posted March 15, 2016 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Well the solution is to find a way to not having blockages and obstacles in the way of our communication.

We are far away and communication is stuck, but then again he still makes me happy in a way.

I hate to say it but I kept getting alot of readings on this same person ( but not the communication), for some reason I think this person actually trust me, somehow he feels comfortable about me talking to him.

Sorry for the long story lol 😁


Nah its cool. Wish you the best of luck

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posted March 15, 2016 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
3) Was/IS she one of my soulmates?

Empress, King Of Pents, The Lovers


Never got a combo like that before. Can anyone give insight on what a combo like that would entail? Especially the major cards


Hey there NYCdodger. First, I really encourage you to focus on card placement in your readings as it can help you be more precise with your interpretations. For example, if this was a "past, present, future" style spread, my interpretation would be very different than if this was a "situation, challenge, solution" spread or if you just pulled one card and 2 clarifiers. It's nit-picky, but it truly makes a difference. Also in my experience, I have noticed that Yes/No questions are very difficult to read on and (imho) not the best utilization of the Tarot's abilities. I think a better question to ask is "What impact is this person meant to have on my life?" "What will the outcome be if I reconnect with this person?" or "What am I meant to learn from my experience with this person?"...something along those lines. Again, its nit-picky and may seem a little counter intuitive but in my practice with the Tarot, I let the cards lead me to find the answers within myself if that makes sense. I personally feel the cards are tools to tap into the collective unconscious and explore the depth of our soul's journey.

Just my 2 cents there, lol.

As far as your last question, it's difficult to volunteer an interpretation based on what I said earlier (card placement + vague question) but I honestly see this as possibly indicating there was a missed opportunity due to being at odds. Basically, I see this relationship was pregnant with possibilities but you distanced yourself from it emotionally and decided to focus on the practical side of things rather than embrace what was being offered. Kings do not attract opportunities to them so if they do not pursue or act on their desires, the potential is lost. You perhaps focused too much on taking things slow and trying to build something from the ground up rather than embracing your feminine "go with the flow" side - perhaps it took you out of your comfort zone a little to consider letting yourself be inspired by sensuality, beauty, sex or just enjoying the experience in the moment instead of considering what "value" this could add to your life. Lovers highlights that a value-system was being challenged here and you were given a choice as to how you wanted to proceed. Typically, this indicates to me that in order to embrace the gift of the Lovers (soul union, deep spiritual connection) you needed to make a deeply personal choice and take action. That choice likely addressed something relating to your morals, values, personal identity...something big. Major arcana cards indicate larger, more life altering lessons to be integrated.

Essentially, the cards echo your story - there was interest there but the chance was lost because no action or not the appropriate action was taken. I think the cards are asking you to look a little deeper into the situation because the answer possibly lies in the way you view relationships in general.

I hope that makes sense. Just my thoughts - hope it was helpful

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posted March 15, 2016 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^ very helpful!

Im a little skeptic about yes/no spreads as well. So maybe I'll do another spread to see what else is there..

But is that what the cards are entailing to you?

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posted March 15, 2016 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. so i asked "what would the outcome be if i reconnect with her"

Page of swords
Wheel of Fortune
8 of pents

I decided to ask another question. "What was the purpose of our relationship" and I got

10 of coins
9 of wands
page of swords

hmm don't know what to think about these


P.S I sometimes draw 3 cards because it helps me see different perspectives. I did a one card draw on the purpose of our relationship and I got 10 of pents clarified by 8 of pents. I also got Ace of Wands clarified by Death to answer what will happen if her and I reconnect. (those are one card draws)

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posted March 15, 2016 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so glad you found it helpful If you do decide to read on that relationship again, I recommend trying this spread:

Relationship Problem Solving Spread
Layout:
* 5 *
2 * 1 * 3
* 4 *

Card 1: The problem, the real question; present situation, reason for asking about this relationship.
Card 2: Shows your hopes, needs and desires in the relationship.
Card 3: Shows the other person's hopes, needs, and desires in the relationship.
Card 4: What is causing conflict or impediments.
Card 5: Crucial Insight; additional advice or outcome.

This is a modified larger spread (12-cards) - obviously these would be worded in the past tense once you actually do the reading. I think it will help you gain some clarity - based on the answers here you can do more focused spreads if you'd like to dive deeper into an aspect. Overall though, this should be a good jumping off point or at least help you identify if you'd like to revisit this connection.

Like I mentioned, I'm not fully confident in my interpretation because the overall construction of the reading was a little too vague for me. However, I do feel confident that the cards are addressing extreme masculine/feminine energies are at play here: Empress being the ultimate feminine, KOP being extremely masculine, and the Lovers indicating the need to bend/give in some way so that the energies can balance - hence why I felt this was speaking about those energies at odds with each other instead of indicating romance or a merging.

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posted March 15, 2016 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ I read tarot online. Do you think it can still work?

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