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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 08:50 AM
It`s actually a rather serious question I have, and maybe just triggered by the feeling of ending a cycle and being through a distressful time lately, but my question would be "Is it worth continuing the friendship with AV (female) or have already outlived its selldate?"
and please leave your question, but give a little backgroundinfo, what area it pertains to
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4839 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 08:59 AM
Here i am I basically have the same q: Shall i continue or discontinue my friendship with Saskia? We have been friends for years but our friendship cooled down the last couple of months since i felt used IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 09:17 AM
Enneline, that is the same situation here, almost i guess! Well I had written my friend (we have been friends over 10 years) about the loss of my other friend`s mother and how much it shook me, and well she did not even find the time to write even one single line during the last week, but actually waited a whole week for a mail, in which she was telling me to say my condolences to the other friend, and apart from that described in great detail how dull and calm her own week has been and then ending with the sentence she hoped that the last week had been not as dull and eventless for me as for her and that I had a wonderful week.
What the **** ? No I want it to be readable here F U C K! It bewilders me that it is so often the people claiming to be hypersensitive to lack a very general kind of empathy (I mean I literally wrote her that I was shocked, distressed and so on about what happened - so a wonderful week? Sure. ) Anyway sorry to erupt like this here, but i had to get it off my chest (and this is just the lastest drop in a string of mails of hers, and honestly I odn`t think she is interested in me or my life anymore, unless it mirrors hers or a asoundingboard to her. and I feel very strongly it`S time to walk away from this, as I am on the brink of a new cycle as it feels anyway, and she might be just pulling me down or backwards. But maybe I am jsut overly dramatic, could also be. There is a little Drama Queen in me after all. )
I will be back with your reading in the next post, but thankīs for listening or reading (though you do not really have a choice I guess. )
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ILovePoems Knowflake Posts: 4451 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 07, 2016 09:18 AM
Is this closed now? o:IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4839 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 09:22 AM
For your q i pulled: 9 of wands and 2 of cups and strength and 9 of pents and 10 of swords -> urgh....this is one hard spread to interpret on continuing or discontinung friendships. Urgh.... I think it is a yes: first reconsider and wait (9 of wands), make a step forward (2 of cups), really try hard to clarify things between the 2 of you (strength), be aware that you don't need her (9 of pents) and end the current cycle (10 of swords) To be honest it could also mean that you are the one who will say "i don't want it to work out" (9 of pents + 10 of swords). So what do you think? IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4839 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 09:24 AM
i'll be back soon, got an important call....IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 09:24 AM
Shall you continue the friendship with her?5 of swords - that is a No to me. You can even see one man in the foreground watching others leave. in Leno: Tower - in this case this is a NO to me, as well. it speaks of isolation (and is actually said to occur regularly in divorce spreads). How will it be for you if you continue the friendship? 8 of swords - Tower - 3 of cups Hmm, the first 2 cards seem to be clearly indicating that you feel like you are bound, caged, imprisoned, maybe even your own thoughts being muffled and blocked, and then there will something drastic happen, I think it might be the actual blow up and ending of the friendship.
I am confused with the 3 of cups. Does it pertain to the same friendship, and meaning that you will reconcile AFTER a drastic rupture and party together again (possibly with other friends) or will you find new friends after that? Leno
Rider - Mice - Mountain That to me seems like messages get lost, or there is a worrisome message, a message being delivered after which there is a feeling of anxiety and loss and again obstacles and maybe this mountain is too steep to climb. Maybe you wil feel like this friendship is dragging you down, hindering your movement and personal evolvement. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 09:25 AM
ILP,no just leave your question IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 09:31 AM
Enneline, I have to think about that, but it resonates well. Both options actually, what I do want is to tell her about my disappointment over a longer time. I know I am not perfect either, but I can`t call this a friendship anylonger. And yes, maybe a part of me does not WANT to work it out if I am honest. I am having a hard time with people who are always complaining about how they are being treated unfairly by EVERYONE. I mean donīt get me wrong, that happens, we get treated unfairly by people and everyone has a right to complain (and I do too, here, I know, I know. ) , but if EVERY person you meet is a bad person just out to annoy you or mistreat you,I donīt know. IP: Logged |
ILovePoems Knowflake Posts: 4451 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 07, 2016 09:42 AM
Okay for your question.Have you two been known each other for a while now or just a long time? I usually think this card means the past as well. I see that either the both of you or one of you still care about the other or at least show that they care but I see that there is some type of separation or that there is detachment here. Could be that you two aren't too close. With the clover and fish, I'm still trying to make sense of this, but it seems as though someone is trying to invest into something, could be with the other person.. Did someone not really try to put their time into the friendship for too long? Does any of this make sense? Clover - heart - lily - tower - fish Does E.W. think I'm scared of him? You was spot on last time IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 09:48 AM
thanks, yes it fits I guess. -------------------------------
for your question Moon - Child - heart
No, not really, seems more like he thinks you are wearing your heart on your sleeve or maybe even falling in love or getting attached in a very emotional appreciative way that might feel to you like it`s the first time. lol
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4839 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Enneline, that is the same situation here, almost i guess! Well I had written my friend (we have been friends over 10 years) about the loss of my other friend`s mother and how much it shook me, and well she did not even find the time to write even one single line during the last week, but actually waited a whole week for a mail, in which she was telling me to say my condolences to the other friend, and apart from that described in great detail how dull and calm her own week has been and then ending with the sentence she hoped that the last week had been not as dull and eventless for me as for her and that I had a wonderful week.
What the **** ? No I want it to be readable here F U C K! It bewilders me that it is so often the people claiming to be hypersensitive to lack a very general kind of empathy (I mean I literally wrote her that I was shocked, distressed and so on about what happened - so a wonderful week? Sure. ) Anyway sorry to erupt like this here, but i had to get it off my chest (and this is just the lastest drop in a string of mails of hers, and honestly I odn`t think she is interested in me or my life anymore, unless it mirrors hers or a asoundingboard to her. and I feel very strongly it`S time to walk away from this, as I am on the brink of a new cycle as it feels anyway, and she might be just pulling me down or backwards. But maybe I am jsut overly dramatic, could also be. There is a little Drama Queen in me after all. )
I will be back with your reading in the next post, but thankīs for listening or reading (though you do not really have a choice I guess. )
WOW :eek what an unsensitive and unselfish woman! She knows that you are in pain and she doesn't give a f*ck? Well...maybe she didn't know how much the death did did you in? This is my only explanation but from your description i have the feeling she is always unbearably selfish You are right. maybe it doesn't make sense to continue the friendship. I mean friends are people like anyone else, with many flaws and mistakes, etc. but there should be a common ground, a basis and so selfishness can't be a part of it
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DaniPepper87 Moderator Posts: 5615 From: Curitiba, Brasil Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 07, 2016 09:56 AM
Ceri,Are you still taking exchanges today? IP: Logged |
ILovePoems Knowflake Posts: 4451 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 07, 2016 09:57 AM
Thanks!I was kinda thinking that the child meant me but eh. IP: Logged |
VacantGazer Knowflake Posts: 3298 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 09:58 AM
I hope you dont mind but i reworded and asked how it would be progressing in next two or so months. It was a tricky spread,8 swords, justice, 2 cups, 5 wands, 4 pents main spread clarified by; 5 swords, judgement, death I found this spread hard to interpret. I think it shows you having feel fearful/crossroad about what direction things are going, but also you feeling things should be more fair, 5 swords on the justice makes me think things feeling out of balance. Currently i think it shows you making up your mind and there might be some conflict, but i think in the end you might remain friends, in anycase death shows the way things are now will end. 4 pents as out come makes me think of holding on. I'm not sure on how to interpret that card in this case to be honest. I pulled 3 more cards to help me and got, queen wands, the hermit, the emperor I think you will be looking/learning from the past to bring some balance. So you will make a decision.. hmm...I dont know if that answered your question :/ I do have a question; I dont like health related questions but im working on losing a little weight, its coming off but very slowly. So my question is will i manage to lose a noticeable amount between now and Christmas, im fine if it comes of slowly, losing too quickly is not healthy obviously, im just not wanting to put it on. Im a little bit over the amount i should be Thanks Please dont quote will edit later
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4839 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 10:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Shall you continue the friendship with her?5 of swords - that is a No to me. You can even see one man in the foreground watching others leave. in Leno: Tower - in this case this is a NO to me, as well. it speaks of isolation (and is actually said to occur regularly in divorce spreads). How will it be for you if you continue the friendship? 8 of swords - Tower - 3 of cups Hmm, the first 2 cards seem to be clearly indicating that you feel like you are bound, caged, imprisoned, maybe even your own thoughts being muffled and blocked, and then there will something drastic happen, I think it might be the actual blow up and ending of the friendship.
I am confused with the 3 of cups. Does it pertain to the same friendship, and meaning that you will reconcile AFTER a drastic rupture and party together again (possibly with other friends) or will you find new friends after that? Leno
Rider - Mice - Mountain That to me seems like messages get lost, or there is a worrisome message, a message being delivered after which there is a feeling of anxiety and loss and again obstacles and maybe this mountain is too steep to climb. Maybe you wil feel like this friendship is dragging you down, hindering your movement and personal evolvement.
thanks a lot: this makes sense you know, we were close friends actually but the last couple of years did drain me. I mean, i think i am generous person and i love to give, especially to those i love and sooner or later i realized that she takes far more than she gives. She is a real tight person. First i thought it's me. I thought it's me who is too demanding or tight but then a mutual friend made the same experiences with her. That friend did cut her giving side when it comes to S. and so did I. While she accepted that with our mutual friend, she started to whine at me. At some point i was like "i can't do this any more" and became very upset. So i think the last spread is most correct: continuing the friendship would drain me. May I ask another q? Of course you may too!!! What is Saskia's point of view? Does she think i am cruel or tight or both or does she know she has been a false friend to me (actually i know that someone else told her to be tight and greedy)?
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posted May 07, 2016 10:47 AM
hey sweets, I wanted to put my two cents in, I hope you do not mind... If it doesn't resonate with you please take with a grain of salt...but upon feeling the energies of your friend, i don't feel any malintent whatsoever. I feel a sort of weird disasociation in her body... it's like something very strong and odd is going on inside of her and I genuinely don't think she was able to absorb your message for whatever reason. It almost feels like a retrograde type of miscommunication, but multiplied. She wasn't able to absorb it because of things going on with her own energetic body. She is also unable to put her finger on what is exactly going on with her, let alone describe it to you.. Hence talking about the calmness, etc.. I understand why you feel disturbed with such response being that the topic is such an extreme and emotional one, but I genuinely believe this is a sort of situation devised by the universe to help both of you do some personal healing. I think you are being asked to examine the feelings that this is bringing out in you so that you may heal them and release them. These feelings are valid, 100%. I have personally been having lots of these sort of things happen to myself during this retrograde season in particular, and I can say, without a doubt, that once you move through this pain you have in relation to this, you will clear and heal some parts of yourself that you didn't even know were wounded! Use this trigger as a tool, use her seemingly emotionless response to your OWN advantage to grow stronger!! maybe some journaling as to how you felt with her lack of response? what events does this remind you of? what past experiences ignite the same sense of feeling unheard in you?
Lots and lots and LOTS of love to you my sweets, I hope I did not overstep any boundaries with this response. This retrograde season is so challenging and we are all being confronted with discomfort on the daily, however when we take the bull by the horns and work through that discomfort, there is such a peace on the other side of the pain! & all of this being said, you are never in a position where you need to overextend yourself to anyone! sometimes the energetic flow in a relationship can become unbalanced and it can begin to feel taxing.. however, i really do feel a strong, genuine affinity between the two of you, underneath the semi-unbalanced dynamics. I feel that maybe to keep the friendship, but change the dynamics would be helpful. for you to realize you needn't give here more than you can comfortably manage. You may pull back a bit, give her some space, give yourself some space!! But i feel that really cutting the friendship is not going to be something that gives you peace or closure either IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17948 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 11:22 AM
Keeping the friendshipHERMIT 6 OF WANDS 3 OF CUPS I think you will somehow manage to keep this friendship, but it seems to come after she's doing some soul search and will acknowledge her mistake. I am sorry, Ceri, that was really insensitive Sometimes when we are in pain, we are so self-absorbed that we become insensitive, I think this is her case here, and she will realize it, it looks like pretty soon. Also, after this event, I think your connection will take a new form, perhaps more upfront, and you being more able to feel that you are receiving the attention you deserve IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 01:23 PM
Thank you. You`ve given me much food for thought. But overall I think the readings do illuminate the issues AMAZINGLY well. Now over to your questions.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 01:26 PM
VGoh I know the weightissue very well. Moon - Fish - Cross (Sun)
Yes you will be successful and being praised for it. In fact I think you will lose lots of weight if you want to (Fish), however with the Cross, it is either emphasized and simply fated that you will succeed, or it means that despite this certain success you need to put a lot of effort into it, really work for it (And possibly refrain from getting lazy in the sun too much. I weirdly had that image of you laying by a pool or beach with sunglasses and cocktails in your hand. and an evening garden party with lampoons. lol Don`t mind me, I get these weird images, but I think the key to success is being quite determined but not too fixated) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 01:32 PM
Enneline, your words meant a lot to me. And I can understand your issues with that girl/ woman. It`s never good if you feel like you are giving more than receiving. Now your question: her view of you in this issue? 10 of wands - Page of Wands - Knight of Cups I think she might think you are being overly emotional and dramatic about the issue (the shadow side of the Wand and Cups). But she might also think you are being overworked and hence acting out?
Anyway the Page of Wands and Knight of Cups face to the right side, so it evoked the impression in me as if she thinks you might be turned away from her or looking away from here into a new direction.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 01:33 PM
Dani, sure, ask. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 01:40 PM
Leeloo and Missblyss, what is your question?
I also wanted to say that your interpretation was very astute. Yes, I think it is like that. There is and has been genuine affection and I know that I am pretty much the only one she can talk to or feels like it at least. She doesn`t really have any other contacts but "official ones" (to doctors, shrink, staff at the gym and so on). Partly this is so cause she pretty much blows off everyone who might be friendly to her, especially if it shall be a male person. And maybe the issues we have are deeper than her not being very empathetic this last week when I would have needed it for a change. I guess I feel like I have too much of responsibility for being an "emotional-social lifeline" to her and that I cannot really do it. Just feels too much of obligation for me. Do I make sense? But yes thank you for your observations, they were very very true. and I think I don`t want to end the friendship and simply walk away, but the dynamic has to change. I can`t be the only one she relies on (emotionally) and my needs have to be heard too.
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mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 1723 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted May 07, 2016 01:43 PM
Ceri, you have already helped me so much astrology-wise, so I don;t know if you think this is too much to ask, please feel free to say you can't, I really don't mind! But since you also read tarot and never got a reading from you, I'd like to ask, unfortunately I can't exchange though.. I really wish I could to be fair.. Anyway, be honest and tell me what you think about it lol ! Thanks anyway! P.S. I can answer to your situation in a "psychological"-advice-way, though, without tarot, if you are interested. Because I have been there, too! Take care! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 01:44 PM
If anyone is up for an exchange still.... there is another relation I want to (?) make my mind up about. The question is how shall I relate to them from hereon? I mean how to act towards them? And - 2nd question I know I know - what do they want from me? (in terms of this connection of course)
Their (nick)name is EL, if that helps to get a feel. Nothing bad has happened, but I just feel like things have to or are going to change, and I`d like to know into which direction and how I can participate in the change?
(I guess I am in a JUDGEMENT-phase lately. )
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