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beccathelion
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posted June 10, 2016 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! I think I owe you a Leno reading. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it. Just lemme know what you'd like

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posted June 10, 2016 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

Um, why is E.L.W. protective of me? I cant remember the question I asked you before. Lol

Do you have a question for me?

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posted June 10, 2016 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks!

Um, why is E.L.W. protective of me? I cant remember the question I asked you before. Lol

Do you have a question for me?


Man + Dog + Moon + Garden + Rider (w/ Tower clarifier)

With the Moon as the center card, the whole issue is bathed in emotion. Good feelings run deep between you two and might even been romantic. What's not easily seen (or what's hidden beneath the surface) is Dog+Garden, which suggests he's protective of you because he's your friend. He's a good support system, and he wants to be there for you. What you're most likely seeing on the surface is Man+Rider, which suggests that his presence in your life is becoming stronger and stronger; he's showing up more, talking to you more, etc.

In the past, he was just a friend (Man+Dog), but now, there are feelings developing (Moon). It might not be full-blown love, but there is movement in that direction. At the very least, you are heading towards best friends. In the future, Garden+Rider suggests the two of you will go out to dinner or something or, at least, socialize more. But! The clarifier card is the Tower -- distance, loneliness, self-imposed isolation. So, I would say that both of you will not move quickly, that there is a lot of self-protection involved, sort of like... someone running up and poking the other, then running away, back into hiding, and evaluating the reactions from a safe distance.

So to answer the question: why is he protective of you? I think it's because he's starting to have strong feelings for you, and while both of you are a little nervous about it, if you just be yourself and let things flow naturally -- don't try to force it -- good things will happen

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posted June 10, 2016 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess my question would be... is M starting to have feelings for me? Or "what the hell is going on with me and M" haha. Your choice

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posted June 10, 2016 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! I'll give you feedback soon.

I just got my new tarot deck, can I test it out on you or use lenormand?

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posted June 10, 2016 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Thank you! I'll give you feedback soon.

I just got my new tarot deck, can I test it out on you or use lenormand?


Whatever you would like! I've been trying out some new spreads with my tarot, so if you ever want one of those, just let me know (I've been doing tarot longer, and I think I am a bit better overall at them!)

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posted June 10, 2016 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I asked how does M feel about you.

On the first card it shows two people.. I see that there is feelings here, or something mutual between two people. I think they are both looking into each other eyes, or the man is just looking at the woman, but in a way that the man feels something for the girl. Another card I got shows a young girl carrying 10 wands on her back, as in its been either struggling for her to do or its her responsibility to do something. Is this a struggling situation for someone or pressure to carry on with something? The last card I pulled shows a man standing with a long stick with fire on it. It looks like he's on the look out for something.. Or he's waiting for something to come his way. I can see that may be he's being a bit guarded and is not giving up. I am not sure what this card is saying but is you or him is being cautious?

2 of cups - 10 of wands - 9 of wands

I don't know if this make sense.

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posted June 10, 2016 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Okay, I asked how does M feel about you.

On the first card it shows two people.. I see that there is feelings here, or something mutual between two people. I think they are both looking into each other eyes, or the man is just looking at the woman, but in a way that the man feels something for the girl. Another card I got shows a young girl carrying 10 wands on her back, as in its been either struggling for her to do or its her responsibility to do something. Is this a struggling situation for someone or pressure to carry on with something? The last card I pulled shows a man standing with a long stick with fire on it. It looks like he's on the look out for something.. Or he's waiting for something to come his way. I can see that may be he's being a bit guarded and is not giving up. I am not sure what this card is saying but is you or him is being cautious?

2 of cups - 10 of wands - 9 of wands

I don't know if this make sense.


So, this all depends on what each placement of the card means. Is it past/present/future. Or are all three cards just working together to make a story? With the tarot, those placements are super important, because they help funnel the information.

2 of Cups does say a relationship based on mutual attraction or feelings. The 10 of Wands is all about "the end" of struggle, but whether that means an end in one's favor is totally up for grabs. It could be that this weird period between he and I is almost over, and something good will happen, or it can mean that the whole thing is almost over quite literally. The 9 of Wands shows someone who's survived a great deal of pain or adversity. He's made it; he's come out the other side (a bit cranky), but he's alive to tell the tale.

So, if the question is: how does M feel about me, then he does feel attraction, but there is an element of struggle and/or reservation on his end. He isn't willing to jump in head first, but maybe he's thinking about trying... but his past injuries are holding him back? I'm not sure. What do you think? How do you read the struggle?

Also, what deck do you have? Rider Waite?

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posted June 10, 2016 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, what you said is what the cards are actually, I think lol I don't think I can add anymore to what you said.

So you don't know on if that's the case of him?

I'm using Steampunk tarot.

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posted June 10, 2016 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beccathelion:
Man + Dog + Moon + Garden + Rider (w/ Tower clarifier)

With the Moon as the center card, the whole issue is bathed in emotion. Good feelings run deep between you two and might even been romantic. What's not easily seen (or what's hidden beneath the surface) is Dog+Garden, which suggests he's protective of you because he's your friend. He's a good support system, and he wants to be there for you. What you're most likely seeing on the surface is Man+Rider, which suggests that his presence in your life is becoming stronger and stronger; he's showing up more, talking to you more, etc.

In the past, he was just a friend (Man+Dog), but now, there are feelings developing (Moon). It might not be full-blown love, but there is movement in that direction. At the very least, you are heading towards best friends. In the future, Garden+Rider suggests the two of you will go out to dinner or something or, at least, socialize more. But! The clarifier card is the Tower -- distance, loneliness, self-imposed isolation. So, I would say that both of you will not move quickly, that there is a lot of self-protection involved, sort of like... someone running up and poking the other, then running away, back into hiding, and evaluating the reactions from a safe distance.

So to answer the question: why is he protective of you? I think it's because he's starting to have strong feelings for you, and while both of you are a little nervous about it, if you just be yourself and let things flow naturally -- don't try to force it -- good things will happen


Thanks!

Can the dog and garden mean that he's a helper in public? as in that's not what I'm seeing?.. dont know if I can explain that right lol
For the moon, I really do care about him.. I don't think on the romantic side, but I really do care about him.. on the emotional level.
With the man and rider.. yeah. I can say that lol he pops up lol

In the past.. not sure.. but it could be that the man and dog means him being my friend.
But the garden and rider.. can it mean something else instead of going out? I can understand garden meaning socializing and public but the rider, what would that mean? The tower sounds like me, I've been distancing myself from alot of people. I don't even know how to get out of my shell.

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posted June 10, 2016 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Wow, what you said is what the cards are actually, I think lol I don't think I can add anymore to what you said.

So you don't know on if that's the case of him?

I'm using Steampunk tarot.


Nope. I can't actually tell what's going on. I feel like we might be moving towards a relationship, but the 2 of Cups can also mean friendship... that's why I was curious what you think the "struggle" is here. Is it an ending? Or is it sort of like the Death card -- there's a rebirth going on after the burden gets laid down.

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posted June 10, 2016 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks!

Can the dog and garden mean that he's a helper in public? as in that's not what I'm seeing?.. dont know if I can explain that right lol
For the moon, I really do care about him.. I don't think on the romantic side, but I really do care about him.. on the emotional level.
With the man and rider.. yeah. I can say that lol he pops up lol

In the past.. not sure.. but it could be that the man and dog means him being my friend.
But the garden and rider.. can it mean something else instead of going out? I can understand garden meaning socializing and public but the rider, what would that mean? The tower sounds like me, I've been distancing myself from alot of people. I don't even know how to get out of my shell.


So the Rider just means something is "coming towards you." It doesn't have to mean physically going out (that would be more the Ship), but it could mean more socializing between you two in general.

And yeah, the Dog+Garden could mean he works with the public -- some kind of social worker or teacher or something. It could mean he is a humanitarian, so he naturally wants to take care of people. Actually, I've never thought of that combination that way until just now, hahaha, but that makes a lot of sense. He's a friend to the community, a humanitarian.

I think it's good that you care about each other, and I think that if you give it time, and if you want it too (that's important!) it could turn into a romantic relationship

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posted June 10, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nope. I can't actually tell what's going on. I feel like we might be moving towards a relationship, but the 2 of Cups can also mean friendship... that's why I was curious what you think the "struggle" is here. Is it an ending? Or is it sort of like the Death card -- there's a rebirth going on after the burden gets laid down.

Oh.. yeah the 2 of cups can mean friendship, family, but it's love. 3 of cups is mostly friendship to me, but everyone is different. lol.. Now, I don't think it's an ending at all. I didn't get the the death card or 3 of swords.. or even the 10 of swords. I think that he just can't handle it right now, and it's holding him back. As you can see on the 9 of wands, he's on the look for people that may hurt him.

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posted June 10, 2016 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So the Rider just means something is "coming towards you." It doesn't have to mean physically going out (that would be more the Ship), but it could mean more socializing between you two in general.

And yeah, the Dog+Garden could mean he works with the public -- some kind of social worker or teacher or something. It could mean he is a humanitarian, so he naturally wants to take care of people. Actually, I've never thought of that combination that way until just now, hahaha, but that makes a lot of sense. He's a friend to the community, a humanitarian.

I think it's good that you care about each other, and I think that if you give it time, and if you want it too (that's important!) it could turn into a romantic relationship


Yep, that make sense.. but the dog and garden, I still don't get it. xD He doesn't work in the public or anything like that. What I meant was that since it's hidden, is that he wants to help me in public. I'm a very very shy person when it comes to the public, I keep to myself a lot. o:

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posted June 10, 2016 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yep, that make sense.. but the dog and garden, I still don't get it. xD He doesn't work in the public or anything like that. What I meant was that since it's hidden, is that he wants to help me in public. I'm a very very shy person when it comes to the public, I keep to myself a lot. o:

Ahh!! Hmm... I think this speaks more to who he is, since the question is "why is he protective." My guess would be that this just is saying it's the kind of man he is -- a caring, loyal, helpful person.

And in regards to your tarot reading... okay. Makes sense. I guess the 10 at least shows maybe he's getting closer to being able to let his guard down? Or maybe open up a bit more, because he realizes I won't hurt him? Idk. Hope so anyway. Haha.

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Well... the 9 of wands is having his guard up from being hurt before. the 10 of wands is a bit worse..but not in a way that there is a ending.. I don't see the 10 of wands opening up. :/

I should of pulled more cards but wasnt sure if the reading made sense.

Want me pull for what will happen between you two?

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posted June 10, 2016 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well... the 9 of wands is having his guard up from being hurt before. the 10 of wands is a bit worse..but not in a way that there is a ending.. I don't see the 10 of wands opening up. :/

Want me pull for what will happen between you two?


If you'd like. There's no pressure. I have to go to work, but later tonight, I can pull for you as well using this new spread I'm trying out.

And the 10s always mean completion/end of cycles. Sometimes the 10 of Wands, because it's the only card showing something physically on someone's back... sometimes it can mean casting off a burden/letting go. Literally letting the drama go. That's what I was thinking. Not sure though. I'm trying not to really overthink anything anymore about all this... but he keeps popping up like the chicken pox, and it's driving me bonkers hahaha.

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posted June 10, 2016 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I asked what will happen between you and M.

The first card I got shows a hand holding a pentacle. So I think that you two will continue building something stable with each other, so it won't seem to fade away or fall apart easily. I think someone wants to build that trust and that foundation. The second card I pulled shows a woman standing tall on some type of stand while others stand beneath her. I think this saying that someone will stick to what they believe is right to them. They are firm in what they believe in and they won't give up on it. They know what is right to them. The last card I pulled shows a young man giving a woman flowers, this card indicates the past or may be being innocent towards each other. IS he from the past? I pulled one more and it shows a woman sneaking off with 7 swords in her hands.. so I think someone is sneakily coming up from the past? Would that make sense?

ace of pentacles - 7 of wands - 6 of cups - 7 of swords

And okay! lol what type of spread is it? o:

In your situation with the 10 of wands, I'm kinda... thinking that it's some type issue that he's dealing with

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posted June 11, 2016 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I also thought of the Garden and Rider in the reading.

I was thinking that since Garden is open and visible, then may be it means he will show up (rider) but only if I'm alone (tower). I thought of that because it makes sense, but either way you spread makes a lot to me after giving it some thought.

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posted June 11, 2016 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So I asked what will happen between you and M.

The first card I got shows a hand holding a pentacle. So I think that you two will continue building something stable with each other, so it won't seem to fade away or fall apart easily. I think someone wants to build that trust and that foundation. The second card I pulled shows a woman standing tall on some type of stand while others stand beneath her. I think this saying that someone will stick to what they believe is right to them. They are firm in what they believe in and they won't give up on it. They know what is right to them. The last card I pulled shows a young man giving a woman flowers, this card indicates the past or may be being innocent towards each other. IS he from the past? I pulled one more and it shows a woman sneaking off with 7 swords in her hands.. so I think someone is sneakily coming up from the past? Would that make sense?

ace of pentacles - 7 of wands - 6 of cups - 7 of swords

And okay! lol what type of spread is it? o:

In your situation with the 10 of wands, I'm kinda... thinking that it's some type issue that he's dealing with


Hey, sorry. I ended up subbing classes for a teacher who went on vacation. Blargh.t The spread I want to do is a three card with three clarifiers. It's kind of cool, but I'm still learning it. What question would you like for that?

I definitely want to build that trust and foundation, but I have no idea what he feels. I would definitely also be the 7 of Wands, holding on when perhaps I should leave haha. He isn't from the past; I've known him since March... so who knows. Maybe he'll be kind? Or I'll keep being kind? Not sure about the past or the sneaking!

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posted June 11, 2016 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 6 of cups could be that someone may feel an innocent joy between you two.. Lol I thought he was from the past lol I'm kinda not liking how the cards doesnt make sense to peoples questions :/

Have anymore testing questions for me? I want to keep practicing.

I have a question.

Why is S.T. not very close to me? Me and her used to be close but not anymore, we used to be best friends :/

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posted June 12, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The 6 of cups could be that someone may feel an innocent joy between you two.. Lol I thought he was from the past lol I'm kinda not liking how the cards doesnt make sense to peoples questions :/

Have anymore testing questions for me? I want to keep practicing.

I have a question.

Why is S.T. not very close to me? Me and her used to be close but not anymore, we used to be best friends :/


So, again, a good thing I would recommend is having clear card placements that help both your reader and you.

For instance, for the spread I did:

1 (2) + 3 (4) + 5 (6)

1: How you feel --> Hermit
2: Clarifier/extra info --> Ace of Cups

3: The Situation --> King of Cups
4: Clarifier/extra info --> 6 of Wands

5: How ST feels --> Ace of Swords
6: Clarifier/extra info --> 7 of Swords


Now, I'm not sure if this is right, because it's a new spread, but I will say that there are a lot of emotions here, and on ST's part, I think a lot of miscommunication.

So, you as the Hermit juxtaposed with the Ace of Cups tells me you are thinking about this issue with ST because you are going through life/karmic changes and are reevaluating your life, your attitudes, who you are, etc. This is due to the Ace of Cups appearing -- a new emotional opportunity. Whether you want to be romantic with the person from the earlier readings or not, the emotions being awakened in you -- even if platonic -- are getting you thinking. Shifting. This is why ST comes up.

ST's response is grounded in swords (thoughts), whereas yours are grounded in emotions (major arcana and cups). The Ace of Swords represents "new thinking" and "new truths." The corresponding 7 here throws me a bit -- typically this card means "getting away with something." I think she might be concerned you would disapprove of her actions? Did she have an affair? With a married man?

I ask because the King of Cups comes up for the situation -- it's definitely a man in her life, I feel. Strongly. And with the 6 of Wands being pride, validation, temporary success (sometimes a little vain, since this is a parade card...) I think she might have started seeing someone she knew you wouldn't approve of, and subsequently, she pulled back, because she wants to enjoy the moment and not be bogged down by "morals" or "responsibility."

Not sure if that's accurate or not, but I will say with certainty there is a man involved, and she's possibly feeling guilty about something. It could be too, that she simply got a boyfriend she is proud of and wants to spend more time with. She knows it's wrong (7 of Swords) to only spend time with him, but she also doesn't care.

Does any of that make sense?

And sure, if you want to keep practicing. My question would be: if I keep writing X, what will come of it?

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posted June 12, 2016 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reading.

So first off, I'll give you feedback on this reading then do your reading. lol

The hermit is totally me. I am detached from the people that I used to be close with. I never really noticed it until after seeing that the people I used to talk to, talk to other people besides me.
The ace of cups, could be me trying to change or wanting to start over. I think that's what it could also mean.

The King of cups could be the boy she's with. She isn't having an affair or anything, she's not like that at all but she's very committed to a man that she loves very much. I think with the 6 of wands, this man may actually help her feel confident in herself.. or something. I think she's been getting alot of attention and it's true.
For the ace of swords, she know I haven't made much contact with her, but the same for her. She doesn't really communicate with me at all, unless I communicate to her. And when I do talk about it, she will start saying that I haven't contacted her, and it always be like that.
Not sure about the 7 of swords but may be it has something to do with the fact that she doesn't want to face this problem with me.

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posted June 12, 2016 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for the reading.

So first off, I'll give you feedback on this reading then do your reading. lol

The hermit is totally me. I am detached from the people that I used to be close with. I never really noticed it until after seeing that the people I used to talk to, talk to other people besides me.
The ace of cups, could be me trying to change or wanting to start over. I think that's what it could also mean.

The King of cups could be the boy she's with. She isn't having an affair or anything, she's not like that at all but she's very committed to a man that she loves very much. I think with the 6 of wands, this man may actually help her feel confident in herself.. or something. I think she's been getting alot of attention and it's true.
For the ace of swords, she know I haven't made much contact with her, but the same for her. She doesn't really communicate with me at all, unless I communicate to her. And when I do talk about it, she will start saying that I haven't contacted her, and it always be like that.
Not sure about the 7 of swords but may be it has something to do with the fact that she doesn't want to face this problem with me.


Gotcha, so she is caught up in him and feeling good about him... and has essentially sort of wrapped herself up in him. I've had friends do that to me before, and the 7 of Cups, I think, fits well there. They know what they're doing could hurt someone a/o a friendship, but they do it anyway.

Lame. I'm sorry

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Well I cant say wrapped her self up, but she has a baby by him and after the baby, she seems to have gained more friends.

After your writing. It looks like if you continue writing, you seem to be more creative and more confident in what you will write about. On the card it shows a young woman, she looks a bit shy, may be even coming out of her comfort zone. It still shows that she is still learning on what shes passionate about. The next card tells me that you will be need guidance or may be some help with your writing? Are you getting help from someone or some type of mentor guidance person? On the card it shows a older man, holding some type of lamp, as in searching or going on his own on his journey. May be you spend time alone, writing. The last card tells me that this is your dream. Are you trying to make it come true?

Page of wands - the hermit - the moon

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