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Topic: Composite chart: solar return + natal
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21037 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:22 AM
Have you ever tried this? I wonder what it could mean? At the very least it seems to indicate what kind of birthday you might have ~ another layer of the experience, beyond SR. My birthday was difficult this year and certain after-effects are ongoing, such as the fact that my friend sent a gift that never reached me, and I feel oddly responsible. I knew the package was coming; maybe I should have checked the mailbox more often, in case thieves were around and might take it (we've never had this problem before, or I might've thought to take precautions.) Maybe that is NN-Saturn in the third house? I also had some email problems back when Mercury was Rx that caused confusion on my birthday. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad, except my sun squares the nodal axis here, and I was taking things oddly personally. Maybe my emotions were amplified because this chart's angles overlap my natal angles exactly. [ETA: Cancel that; clerical error. Chart below has been corrected.] Also, the Mars-Uranus-Pluto triangle suggests a crazy and intense sort of energy. This is a personal reading I am giving myself. But maybe others will be curious to check their own SR/natal composite charts and discuss? I'd be curious to know what you notice...and to what extent the chart illustrates your birthday experience, or doesn't. PS Sorry I forgot to decrease the orbs here. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:24 AM
Interesting idea. You were of course NOT responsible!
And yeah Mercury rx sometimes can be like that But apart from that I like your Sun-Mercury-Venus-Jupiter, even in the 6th house
and that ASC???????????
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21037 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:28 AM
Thanks, Ceri. I can't figure out that ASC. The SR ASC is 25 Cancer. Natal, 7 Leo (rectified, as you know.) It's just pure chance that this chart's ASC is 7 Leo, right? quote: But apart from that I like your Sun-Mercury-Venus-Jupiter, even in the 6th house
Venus-Jupiter, at LL there were three (3) birthday threads for me...and with heartfelt thanks to everyone, that's just excessive (Jupiter! ) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:30 AM
BTW this is mine, and it of course is also the EVC for the workshop I attended on the day of my solar return. [/URL] so I do have Venus as my skipped step this year?
It looks like a pretty focused year, and very me-me-me-oriented. Y
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Thanks, Ceri. I can't figure out that ASC. The SR ASC is 25 Cancer. Natal, 7 Leo (rectified, as you know.) It's just pure chance that this chart's ASC is 7 Leo, right?
Interesting, but actually that cannot be. if your natal is 7 Leo the SR is 25 Cancer, it should be at 1 Leo actually. Unlike of course the SR is really also on 7 Leo. Hmm, odd.
maybe the reason is that you moved from the place of birth?
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21037 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:35 AM
Does it apply for the whole year? I hope not! Unless I can figure out a way to make the energy work for me. And that's quite an obstacle course.Well in your case, I mean...Mars-ASC conjunct composite Venus with P, trine the moon there, and you got a private serenade and hug! Heck yeah, let's hope in YOUR case the effects are year-long! Pretty spiritual (butterfly-ish) with the 12 H stellium including a sun-Jupiter conjunction! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21037 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Interesting, but actually that cannot be.
You're right, I recorded my SR time wrong. Changing the OP. quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: it should be at 1 Leo actually
You're gooooood On my natal 0° Leo Saturn. Telling, I think. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:46 AM
If the Solar return applies for the whole year, the composite with natal, would too, I think. BTW just for comparision the EVC of the serenade moment.
[/URL] Interestingly the ASC of that moment`s EVC (for me) is the same as P`s ASC in his composite between Solar and natal for this year (17 Pisces exact)
It seemed also fitting that the dESC-ruler of that moment was conjunct his naame asteroid. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21037 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:50 AM
"Interestingly the ASC of that moment`s EVC (for me) is the same as P`s ASC in his composite between Solar and natal for this year (17 Pisces exact)" !!! I smiled to see how close it was to my moon, with the Vertex axis on the ASC axis. I was like, "I totally prayed this event into existence." Just kidding IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:53 AM
You actually were. I was praying for it not to happen before. lol but pretty glad I lost the prayer battle. IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 3655 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 14, 2017 03:22 PM
I like this idea. Here was the composite chart. Orb: 60% [Edit]With Moon as a chart ruler in the 1st I guess my feelings are more on the me side and I am more selfish during this upcoming year. This is true as I bought two pair of shoes only for me,me,me . To have Saturn and IC on 29 degree does not bother me and with the other planets there are changes in my house for sure. The Mars Pluto combo is only available for my creative part . What do you think? .
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 03:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
What do you think? .
Honestly? Procreation is an act of creativity as well. I like it, and with Moon in Leo, creativity will be big anyway, and romance and children.
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GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 3655 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 14, 2017 03:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Honestly? Procreation is an act of creativity as well. I like it, and with Moon in Leo, creativity will be big anyway, and romance and children.
Nah I have Neptune and Uranus in the 7th. I would not see the perfect man even if he lands on my couch . IP: Logged |
Lerena Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted January 14, 2017 04:30 PM
Like my natal chart, this composite has a bunch of squares and trines in it. My birthday will probably be enjoyable, but the energy of the planets seems to be scattered. I can't be sure I'll be doing much. It's especially unlikely since my Solar Return is actually on my birthday this year and Jupiter rules my Solar Return. Jupiter's going to make me a lazy person on my birthday. I can see it now.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21037 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 10:44 PM
Ahh interesting!@Ceri You're a good sport and a gracious loser of prayer battles. @GeminiKarat New shoes, very 1H Leo moon And I was laughing at your couch comment. It looks like you had an introspective, at-home birthday? Not much happening out in the world? All planets clustered in lower hemisphere. @Lerena Your sun is exactly trine mine, to the minute. I guess since your birthday hasn't happened yet, it's harder to say how the chart matches the event. It does look scattered! Are any of those planets besides the sun conjunct your natal planets or angles? Maybe that helps define things. Also for the record my own version of this chart has a stellium in CANCER when I convert it into a draconic chart. Draconic composites like this have been my entertainment and fascination tonight. So many curious things come up when I look at draconic event composites! IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3146 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 15, 2017 12:15 AM
What about lunar returns IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 15, 2017 05:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: What about lunar returns
Priceless though underrated.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 15, 2017 06:03 AM
So I checked my midpoints for the composite of my Solar Return/natal Jupiter conjunct Sun/Mercury 0°08
BML conjunct Mars/Jupiter 0°23 BML square Pluto/Vertex 0°00 BML conjunct Jupiter/ASC 0°10 BML conjunct Sun/Venus 0°51 Mars conjunct Venus/BML 0°30 Mars conjunct Neptune/BML 0°01 Mars conjunct Uranus/BML 0°37 - well going to brace myself
ASC conjunct Uranus/BML 0°29 ASC conjunct Mercury/Juno 0°14 NN opp. Uranus/DESC 1°05 NN conjunct Saturn/MC 0°50 NN opp. Moon/Ceres 0°29 NN conjunct Sun/Vertex 0°01
Venus square Sun/Vertex 0°39 Venus conjunct Mars/Juno 0°00 Venus opp. Moon/Saturn 0°22 Venus conjunct Juno/ASC 0°32 Neptune opp. Moon/Saturn 0°36 Neptune conj. Juno/ASC 0°26 Neptune conj. Venus/Uranus 0°09 Juno square Saturn/Pluto 0°00 MC conj. vertex/Juno 0°47 MC square Pluto/Node 0°43 Moon opp. Sun/Saturn 0°14 Moon square Jupiter/Ceres 0°30
Vertex opp. Pluto/IC 0°42
Pluto conjunct Venus/Saturn 0°44
Sun conjunct Venus/Pluto 0°11 Sun conjunct Neptune/Pluto 0°17 Sun conjunct Uranus/Pluto 0°56 sounds a little bit.... exhausting. lol IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 3655 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 15, 2017 11:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: New shoes, very 1H Leo moon And I was laughing at your couch comment. It looks like you had an introspective, at-home birthday? Not much happening out in the world? All planets clustered in lower hemisphere.
Yes, it was a quiet birthday and I liked it.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21037 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 15, 2017 01:25 PM
^ Ahh nice! Mine was weird. Just saw there was an exact Venus-Nessus conjunction that day, conjunct Pallas. I'm not a Nessus doomsday person, but let's just say I'm not a fan of whatever that was. LOL @the unknown Good idea, I'll probably be checking my lunar return + natal composite, at least if it's an eventful month. @Ceri You're always the midpoint queen. It's amazing. And the time around your birthday was amazing this year, so all those zero orbs seemed to potentize the chart and the accompanying experience. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30765 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 15, 2017 03:29 PM
Yes, the time around my birthday was pretty mindblowing, and since it was my Solar Return I exspect - with some interruptions of course- the whole year being like this! Well the exactes aspects in the Solar Return are:
Jupiter sextile Saturn Sun semisquare Venus Mars conjunct ASC Uranus conjunct Ceres Saturn square Vertex Saturn trine Uranus Saturn square Chiron Jupiter opposite Uranus Moon opposite Venus Moon trine Juno Saturn trine Ceres Mercury conjunct Pluto Sun sesisquare Moon Uranus quinkunx ASC Chiron opp. Vertex Jupiter opp. Ceres Well I certainly could do withou the T-square of Vertex-Chiron-Saturn.
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Lerena Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted January 15, 2017 06:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: @LerenaYour sun is exactly trine mine, to the minute. I guess since your birthday hasn't happened yet, it's harder to say how the chart matches the event. It does look scattered! Are any of those planets besides the sun conjunct your natal planets or angles? Maybe that helps define things.
Oh, wow. I didn't notice that. That's actually very interesting.Also, a few connections stand out: Mars is conjunct my natal Venus. Saturn is square my natal Mercury. Mercury conjunct my natal Mercury. Of these, Mars to my Venus is the strongest and tightest aspect. There are no connections to my angles, but actually, if I use the Draconic composite, my natal Venus is on the Draconic Composite Ascendant. And Draconic Uranus squares my natal Venus. Draconic Mars squares my natal North Node, which might be significant since I have Mars square North Node in my natal chart. IP: Logged |