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AlwaysTheSun
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posted August 27, 2019 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlwaysTheSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a bit odd to me but a friend of mine traveled in order to "secure" a better SRC!

As I was checking mine, I noticed that Sun - Mars - Mercury were all together in my next SR 6th house. Does this indicate health issues??

Should I book a ticket to.. anywhere?

SRC --> http://imgur.com/a/m0U9WLI
NTC --> http://imgur.com/a/PSx6XPm

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posted August 27, 2019 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 29, 2019 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AlwaysTheSun
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posted September 01, 2019 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlwaysTheSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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posted September 08, 2019 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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vansio
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posted September 08, 2019 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven’t taken a look at your charts yet, but I will say yes, if you have the chance to travel on your birthday, do what pleases you—the energy doesn’t change but you can redirect it. The year of my breakup, I saw my solar return describe the possibility of relationship destruction (overhaul), so I booked a flight to visit my partner (we were temporarily long distance at the time). Actually, my first ever post on this site was about deciding differences between the two solar return locations. Eventually, after booking, I wasnt able to take the flight because my partner was sent away on an impromptu work trip the exact dates I planned to arrive and depart. Down the line, we did end up breaking up towards the end of the SR year, and out of nowhere. If I recall it correctly, I had a stellium in the 8th that if I went home (at the time) to my partner, would move it all to the 5th.

Point is, the universe has its own plans one way or another, try what you might. In my case, I was forced to live out what I saw in the solar return at the beginning of the year - wasn’t allowed to make this trip to avoid my destiny.

In the case of my ex fiancé, he just so happened to be in Greece on his birthday a few weeks ago, unknowingly moving the solar return stellium from the 9th, to the 8th...

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AlwaysTheSun
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posted September 09, 2019 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlwaysTheSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your reply!

The truth is that some difficulties lead us to the path that we are supposed to cross.
In your case perhaps to a new relationship more suitable for your "destiny".

On the other hand, the SR 6th house worries me.
I have noticed that if I travel I can at least move Mars in the 5th.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 09, 2019 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not just odd, but silly and misinformed.

No one should be worried about their solar return placements. I'm a pro and I don't even use separate solar return charts, because there are innate flaws to them. Separate solar return charts and the idea they somehow predict your entire year is part of the negative reductionism of astrological practice that creates misleading impressions, and just plain wrongly framed astrological information. It's convenient for the astrologer, and many can sell it with some metaphysical sounding rational, but it doesn't give a correct framing of current astrological weather congruent with your birth chart, which must always set the base context for such things.

Follow your transits against the backdrop of your natal chart. They are continuous and do not stop for the moment of any return of the Sun to its natal position. That will put them in the correct house context -- assuming your natal chart is precisely accurate that way -- and won't give contradictory information from another set of houses, signs on cusps, etc.

Always beware of reductionism in any practice or ideology that is supposed to speak truth about life -- especially when it is your life. Just because a tool is used in common practice does not mean it is necessary or helpful.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 09, 2019 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at your natal chart with transits your main concern should be Neptune's applying square to natal Mercury: Not a good time for any far-reaching decisions that are not aimed at your daily needs. However, that transit will be done by April of 2020, less than halfway through the year depicted by a solar return chart. This points out the poor framing and reductionism of solar returns as separate charts.

That is a transpersonal transit in which the thinking patterns and communications are changing. Transpersonal here on a practical level means we don't get to set a conscious agenda for it beforehand. There are things to learn in the process that are out of the current view. Your beliefs and way of thinking are being challenged, creating more confusion and miscommunication to the degree you're attached to previous assumptions or beliefs. Many times people don't know they've been misled or have based prior decisions on assumptions until they go through a transit like this.

Then there is the conjunction to your natal Moon. It has separated for a while, but will return later and has more than 4 years to go. However, in looking ahead to a solar return that won't occur until November, you may have already overlooked its importance to your current perspective.

What is also at work is Uranus's conjunction with your natal North Lunar Node. That by itself indicates some major changes in store over the next year or two, which are of the Uranian type -- hard to predict, better to allow as the unexpected developments Uranus typically brings.

Pluto is sextile to natal Moon and will be for over 3 more years. That is a transit in which you have an opportunity for positive, flowing inner change that might involve a move of residence, but speaks much more of inner change, especially during the period in which Neptune is back in its conjunction with natal Moon, which will extend beyond Pluto's sextile to it.

This is just a quick sampling of transits that outlast a single year or the relevance of any transit depiction in a solar return picture.

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AlwaysTheSun
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posted September 11, 2019 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlwaysTheSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Looking at your natal chart with transits your main concern should be Neptune's applying square to natal Mercury: Not a good time for any far-reaching decisions that are not aimed at your daily needs. However, that transit will be done by April of 2020, less than halfway through the year depicted by a solar return chart. This points out the poor framing and reductionism of solar returns as separate charts.

That is a transpersonal transit in which the thinking patterns and communications are changing. Transpersonal here on a practical level means we don't get to set a conscious agenda for it beforehand. There are things to learn in the process that are out of the current view. Your beliefs and way of thinking are being challenged, creating more confusion and miscommunication to the degree you're attached to previous assumptions or beliefs. Many times people don't know they've been misled or have based prior decisions on assumptions until they go through a transit like this.

Then there is the conjunction to your natal Moon. It has separated for a while, but will return later and has more than 4 years to go. However, in looking ahead to a solar return that won't occur until November, you may have already overlooked its importance to your current perspective.

What is also at work is Uranus's conjunction with your natal North Lunar Node. That by itself indicates some major changes in store over the next year or two, which are of the Uranian type -- hard to predict, better to allow as the unexpected developments Uranus typically brings.

Pluto is sextile to natal Moon and will be for over 3 more years. That is a transit in which you have an opportunity for positive, flowing inner change that might involve a move of residence, but speaks much more of inner change, especially during the period in which Neptune is back in its conjunction with natal Moon, which will extend beyond Pluto's sextile to it.

This is just a quick sampling of transits that outlast a single year or the relevance of any transit depiction in a solar return picture.


Dear @Kannon,

I appreciate your insight. Thank you!
It definitely makes sense that we should give priority to natal chart and transits.

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Randall
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posted September 29, 2019 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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