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thatonegirllol
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posted September 01, 2019 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thatonegirllol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my north node in the 4th house in cancer. What i've read about this placement is that my soul seeks to focus more on my emotional state, nurturing and being nurtured, creating and taking care of my family and being a "mom" basically. I also apparently have to stay in the house more? No.

I have my pisces moon tightly conjunct my pisces rising (at 1 degree), so i understand where the "mom" archetype fits into my life, eventho im the farthest thing from a nurturer and also not fit to be a mother to any child (unless you want that child to be neglected)


What confuses me so much is that i also have a sagittarius MC combined with a pisces rising. I am not someone who wants to stay in the house all day. I enjoy travelling, delving into spirituality, making my music and connecting with those who support my art. Unless i can somehow bring children with me on my travels and not hate every second of having to comfort a crying child on a 6 hour flight, i don't see where my north node fits in my life

I also have uranus as the dominant planet in my chart, and all the things associated with uranus has been predominating my life. The humanitarianism, being independent, being unique, etc.

So, is there any other way my north node can apply to my life? Or can i just continue to ignore it. It feels more like a prison than something that can help me

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Saille
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posted September 01, 2019 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thatonegirllol:
I have my north node in the 4th house in cancer. What i've read about this placement is that my soul seeks to focus more on my emotional state, nurturing and being nurtured, creating and taking care of my family and being a "mom" basically. I also apparently have to stay in the house more? No.

I have my pisces moon tightly conjunct my pisces rising (at 1 degree), so i understand where the "mom" archetype fits into my life, eventho im the farthest thing from a nurturer and also not fit to be a mother to any child (unless you want that child to be neglected)


What confuses me so much is that i also have a sagittarius MC combined with a pisces rising. I am not someone who wants to stay in the house all day. I enjoy travelling, delving into spirituality, making my music and connecting with those who support my art. Unless i can somehow bring children with me on my travels and not hate every second of having to comfort a crying child on a 6 hour flight, i don't see where my north node fits in my life

I also have uranus as the dominant planet in my chart, and all the things associated with uranus has been predominating my life. The humanitarianism, being independent, being unique, etc.

So, is there any other way my north node can apply to my life? Or can i just continue to ignore it. It feels more like a prison than something that can help me


Do you have you chart?
I'm terrible confused, you keep saying Pisce rising...(next to the moon and MC)Are you referring to your ASC? If Uranus dominates your chart, are you an Aquarius?

Your North Node makes perfect sense..as Uranus is about breaking away from the normal and bondage in general..your north node is stating that naturally, you would lack nurturing caring abilities, because your Uranus overwhelms your chart to the point that do not take the time you should to take in a more emotional aspect to other aspects of your life. Pisces are are very intuitive, and if Uranus dominates your chart, it can again block that element in you.

It's interesting that you say you are a humanitarianism, ..which is all about empathy, and emotional nurturing,attachment to others, especially children.. but that only bc you are confusing the meaning of the 11th house, (religion humanitarianism) is which where Uranus planet (breakage, freedom, no restriction) is naturally exalted and where Aquarius sign (independent, different, creative) is home.

Finally, Sagittarius does not always apply to traveling as moving from point A to point B. It can also apply to acquiring information ( learning/reading,going to the library, researching -brainiac ) through many various lenses for self gain..a self-doer DIY. Sagittarius glypth is centaur who is Chiron...a self-doer of all things..and in fact trained all the great greek heroes, but he never needed to travel to do so. So I think the north node for you is correctly positioned. What is it is asking you to do is to be aware of this lack of emotional attachment to humans...while your emotional attachment to the things you love to do, those will not last forever, and it is really how you feel for someone and how they feel about you that has the lasting and permanent effect..Not simply loving someone because they support your art, but actually getting to know them aside from it. .

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posted September 01, 2019 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thatonegirllol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saille:
Do you have you chart?
I'm terrible confused, you keep saying Pisce rising...(next to the moon and MC)Are you referring to your ASC? If Uranus dominates your chart, are you an Aquarius?


Heres my chart


I'll admit I'm the last person anybody should come to if they want to form a deep connection. I just get tired of people. All I attract are clingy people, they make me uncomfortable and make me feel sick of them.


Also a deep connection means the other person assigns me as their therapist and I'm not a fan of all that. When I listen to and help others I get a
"I feel like you're the only person who understands me "
When I talk about my problems nobody ever understands or is unable to help me like I help them. From what I've heard I'm easy to open up to. People I meet for the first time open up to me so quickly you'd think we were old friends meeting after a long separation. It helps me make friends very quickly, but I don't care to keep them in my life. Especially if they use me as their safe space and cant return the favor. I'm sick of it. I can't carry everyone's burdens on-top of mine anymore.


The only person I allow to do it is my mom. She needs someone to talk to and I don't want her feeling lonely so can tolerate that treatment from her even-though she cant return the favor to me either.

Also, I noticed Kanye West has his north node in the 4th house too. It gives me hope, cause I thought I was doomed to a life of staying in doors and taking care of kids all day LOL. That 100% cannot be what I came here to do. I already spent my childhood and early teen years cooped up in the house with my younger siblings taking care of them cause I'm the eldest daughter and its my 'duty'. I cant spend another 2 decades of my life doing that, I hated every second of it way too much. It would be different if I realized I really enjoy taking care of children but if anything the fact I had to sacrifice so much of myself to a couple of kids is what has turned me off from ever being a mom. I can't do all of that again for the rest of my life


As for my art, I need that deep connection with it and prioritize it over connecting with people cause its the only place where I can finally breathe. Its my space, I can express how I feel, be my complete self, and finally get my emotions out and there's someone miles away from me in another country who understands how I feel. I connect with the people who support my art cause if we experience the same issues we connect based off that. Its like I have my own little community now which helps a lot. Before my music, I was way angrier and sadder cause I felt like everybody needed to just leave me alone and stop telling me what to do and how to be all the time.


Sorry if this was long and I talked about myself far too much, but I wanted to give a more detailed explanation of why I think my north node doesn't resonate with me at all. I don't even want the fame and status associated with the 10th house. If I get it, cool, if not, cool. I just want the universe to give me a BREAK!

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Saille
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posted September 02, 2019 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem. Your 5th is empty, why usally indicates not wanting to have children, want children or be able to have children.

Your north node isn't saying that taking care of children is what you are destined for, it is implying that because you focus on your art, it is also important to focus on connecting with people in other ways..that is what will bring you full circle so you are not doomed to have the same chart in the next life. If you don't learn from it, it will keep repeating itself until you do. Your south node is in Sag, ...house of travel, so this is something that comes easily to you, and you can do it well and anytime you want. I don't see fame in your chart, as Jupiter and Neptune are not near your MC or 10th of Capricorn. You also have chiron in Sag, so this is an indication that, this is your Achille's heel..that perhaps you cannot just "run away" from what you mention plague you...no matter where you are, the problems will not be solved if you do not address them. You are decide what happens in your life. The charts are wonderful indicator of who you can be, but does not mean you can't change it yourself. Hope that helps, best luck.

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posted September 02, 2019 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thatonegirllol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saille:

Your south node is in Sag,


I thought my south node would be in capricorn since its in cancer, but I understand my north node better now. Thank you for your help! What a lifesaver. This part of my birthchart always moved me to tears out of frustration

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Saille
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posted September 03, 2019 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes thar correct,


either way, you sag and capricorn house both indicate things you have no problem doing well.

I was looking at the chiron in Sag.

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posted September 03, 2019 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NN is what you need in this life time to learn and SN represents the skills that you already have. It is very normal not to be connected to your NN.

For ex I read a chart for a person with NN in 4th house, even though they did want kids and loved their family, something was off about it. They were most comfortable at work ( SN 10th house) in fact at 20 they were a supervisor and it was easy for them. No issues at all to be an authority.

For me I have ( SN 4th house) NN 10th house.
I am more connected to my NN I want to go out there and do something, I do have troubled connections with some family members, Having kids would terrify me. Even though I feel all that, when things hit me so hard at the 10th house I crawl back to my 4th house, I want to stay at bed and watch shows all day long and neglect my responsibilities. Its very hard to balance the two.

Some people are more able to go after NN and some can live in their SN. Some can fight between the two like the examples I mentioned above.

I really think that NN can test us on how bad we want what we want.
Like you said in relationship you get needy people who push to stay away.How they do not return your care when you need it.

Also, you have 4th lord in 8th house which means ups and downs in your connections, maybe that is why you feel they are unstable.

At work I always face challenges, like test after another, Also, I have Saturn with my NN too which make it more difficult to master.

This is just a quick thought

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thatonegirllol
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posted September 04, 2019 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thatonegirllol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Loveher:
NN is what you need in this life time to learn and SN represents the skills that you already have. It is very normal not to be connected to your NN.

For ex I read a chart for a person with NN in 4th house, even though they did want kids and loved their family, something was off about it. They were most comfortable at work ( SN 10th house) in fact at 20 they were a supervisor and it was easy for them. No issues at all to be an authority.

For me I have ( SN 4th house) NN 10th house.
I am more connected to my NN I want to go out there and do something, I do have troubled connections with some family members, Having kids would terrify me. Even though I feel all that, when things hit me so hard at the 10th house I crawl back to my 4th house, I want to stay at bed and watch shows all day long and neglect my responsibilities. Its very hard to balance the two.

Some people are more able to go after NN and some can live in their SN. Some can fight between the two like the examples I mentioned above.

I really think that NN can test us on how bad we want what we want.
Like you said in relationship you get needy people who push to stay away.How they do not return your care when you need it.

Also, you have 4th lord in 8th house which means ups and downs in your connections, maybe that is why you feel they are unstable.

At work I always face challenges, like test after another, Also, I have Saturn with my NN too which make it more difficult to master.

This is just a quick thought



Ahhhh yeah I do find myself really immersed in my SN. I just couldn't understand why activities related to my NN brought me pain when I had read that your following your NN was supposed to make your life easier.

I feel better now knowing that I'm not the only one who occasionally has to run back to my south node when my north node gets too much for me to bear. Thank you for your addition to my post!

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posted September 10, 2019 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 11, 2019 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi thatonegirllol

90% of what is published about the node is rubbish. the astrological establishment has for many years chose to censor the real importance of the node and to continue to publish meaningless philosophical drivel when in actuality the node his the single most important point in your chart to understand you abilities, potentialities, you past and your future experiences.

that said, your node gives you opposite tendencies and social interactions.

first your venus is trine to the node which shows you give off very attractive and loving vibrations. most people like you right off as you are gracious and sincerely concerned with others.
with the moon ascendant conjunction and loose trine to venus and the node,you sincerity and warmth is felt by all you meet.

but the node also shows you have very distinct and sometimes aggressive behavior.
though you give very good first impressions, you can also alienate people quickly because you are very strong willed.

your node is 3/20 harmonic to mars and biquintile to pluto.this is a very aggressive physical aspect and shows that you never back down and in fact you can be very aggressive when you are doubted. this aspect gives extreme physical energy and it makes you somewhat quarrelsome as you do not let small insults go by.though you have a charm about you, you can loose friends because you can be very troublesome and continue to pick on others and be vocally critical about their shortcomings.
this pattern is quite selfish even though with the venus/node trine you sincerely appreciate others but you will power easily overshadows you sympathy .
part of this selfishness has to do with your emotional and sexual nature. venus shows you elicit love but your venus is also square to Uranus which show you also elicit electric, sexual, passion.the Venus/Uranus square intense but very unstable is shows that you may have many suitors and affairs but these are usually brief. as such , when you loose interest in someone, they may be quite unset and turn ion you. so just as you can soothe others emotionally, you also enrage some who become very attached to you.it is this aspect more than any other that makes you crave excitement and new situation, this aspect is also not favorable for settled domestic life.

you sexual desire is really quite strong and will lead you to intense sexual encounters but you likely will not experience true love until much later.

the sun is square to the node which is an aspect of great vitality .eris is opposed to the sun and eros is conjunct the south node.
so you are marked as a extremely passionate and sexual person. eros show you are like a flame to many you want to be with you. and eris shows that those you are with never want to leave you. this causes...arguments or emotional difficulties because, especially eris, does not really want to be tied down to any one person. the more affection and physical stimulation eris gets, the more she wants. so you may seem insatiable in you desire for experiences and passion.

you do have, frankly some dark impulses .
pluto is opposed to Jupiter which shows you are extremely ambitious and crave power and money. this impulses is stronger than you need for love .
chiron is also opposed to Jupiter which gives you a very manipulative side and you will do almost anything to get want you want.
this does make you extremely intelligent and you have a amazing memory in addition to a incisive,analytical and critical mind. but your selfish nature will not bring satisfaction until you can learn to modify you desires so as not to hurt or take from others in you ambitious path through life.

as you have ntoed I have added other symbols and one that is very interesting is that you vertex is conjunct the descendant and opposed to your moon.

this can be a very confusing and sometimes terrifying aspect because your emotional states are sometimes subject to unusual, strange otherworldly feelings and or experiences.it can give visions of confusing nature, though it can sometimes give you psychic insights. but most often you are over whelmed by energies from "higher" or paranormal realities that are difficult to fathom.
sometimes you may receive knowledge from this higher plaene, knowledge that makes sense to you, b=but it can also bring visions of fear and loneliness. sometime you might be overwhelmed by feeling od love that turn into threatening and ominous experiences or feelings.
but confusion is usually part of ones reaction and I bringing this up so that you realize that you have a "portal" into other planes or dimensions so that you do not think that these energies are you... that is you experience these but they are passing. so never allow fear to be part of your reaction.

todd

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 11, 2019 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The loka planets of your chart, Venus & Jupiter, are general indicators of the chart's accuracy and they indicate your Asc is likely earlier in Pisces, which would put North Lunar Node in the 5th house.

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Saille
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posted September 11, 2019 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kannon,

Could I do an exchange reading for you to look at my birth chart?

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